DelPen wrote:Why on earth would you buyout Orpik instead of Niskanen?
I'd give you 6yrs of age and $1.450.000 reasons why I did that
bse wrote:That D would be worse than the one we have right now.
Actually much worse, since it would be slower, softer, smaller, and it would further reduce the effectiveness of the PP.
No way Scuds is slower than Orpik, plays better D too.
Murray has been as good as advertised could be the next Gill
Day-Pray is ready
I'm up for ideas and other inputs.
No thoughts on Bernier or Penner ?
No offense but Murray was so awful the coaching staff all but refused to use him in the OT game. He played 17 minutes in 5 periods of hockey.
The lineup in by the OP - I see where its going but its not enough for me. I understand that buyouts and cap make this tough for here are my issues:
1. Our 3rd and 4th lines are garbage if we keep mostly the same guys we have now. Cooke / Sutter together are way too slow not too mention our 4th line. I agree that BS provides decent defensive play but our 3rd/4th lines offer us nothing else. Nothing. We need more speed and we need to get some guys that are capable of actually carrying the play not just keeping the other lines from scoring. I said it in here before and got bashed but to win the cup, not just a random round you need more than guys who can slow trap. You need guys who change momentum, carry the play and where down the other squad.
2. Our defense stinks. Martin (and eventually Orpik to a point in the playoffs) had the only decent overall positional play. Maybe Letang stays if you can reign him in and pair with him a younger more solid player in his own zone than an Orpik. But I wave bye bye to Nisky (buy out), Murray, Engellend, Eaton at the very least. No point in keeping any of those guys around. They stink.
3. In my mind the only realistic buy out candidate is Nisky. The Pens simply can not afford, along with paying Sid over his cap value, the cash out of pocket to pay $6 - $10 million more than the cap ceiling.
4. This is going to set people off but its my opinion. I have been saying for 2 years that the Pens had the perfect formula to win a cup. 2-3 Stars and surrounded them with solid muckers/2 way players and 6 guys who just simply play good defense. Didnt even need a 30 minute ice time eater.
I try to trade to James Neal and Orpik, possibly Kunitz. I dont re-sign Dupuis. The issue is the FA's available this summer are garbage so my plan might backfire but we are up against the cap with Malkin needing signed next year (oh btw I DONT TRADE MALKIN).
I get back to the formula that showed us the most success. Neal is a sniper who is just too easy to take out of the game. Talbot/Fedetenko made Malkin better because they opened up space. I get guys who fly up and down the ice (a younger Kunitz, a motivated Talbot) or 2 way players like a younger Sykora. I stockpiled these defensive prospects which do me no good for 2 - 3 more years most likely. I hope to heck 2 are ready to contribute as 5, 6 or 7 type players next year and I dump 3 of them at least.
Look we have a window that is closing by the minute. I dont care if all these PMDM turn out great, we are wasting 3 - 5 years of having Sid/Geno. Get back to what worked 2 years in a row. 2 way players, cycle, guys who opened up space for Malkin, guys who didnt make mistakes on defense. Since we dont have Staal to carry a line that fits a tough guy/speed guy (Cooke / Kennedy) together perfectly we need some players to compliment Sutter.
It seemed to me that Rask took away legit Malkin/Neal scoring chances by coming a little bit further out of his net than others, cutting off the angles. This forced a lot of posts, wide shots and Neal painting the glass from his favorite spot. That DOESNT work if our wingers are getting the puck deep and getting Geno better looks, crashing the net so Geno doesnt need to pick corners he can cannon a shot and look for a rebound.
Weve got none of that. Bigger changes are needed than a few new wings, a new d-men and Beau Bennet. It needs blown up. We got through 2 rounds this year because the Isles goalie stunk and Ottawas forwards couldnt carry the puck past the blue line. It will be rare to get a series like those two again. Dont be fooled by the Conference Championship Round.