Letang Extended; 8 years 7.25mm, Limited no trade (15 teams)

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If true:

Let him walk after next season and take a final run with him as #1 Dman
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Sign him and Malkin, rest of the roster be damned
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Sign him and trade Malkin/let Malkin walk
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Trade Letang at draft/before season starts
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Shut up NAN
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby wondermoose on Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:30 pm

I keep flipping back and forth on this and I don't know how Shero could do the same. Who does more for this team? Fleury or Letang? Shero has a good point that Fleury wins a lot of games, but... but does Fleury win those games? Both had ridiculously awful postseasons (I don't care how many points Letang had) for the second straight year. It kills me to say it because Letang, when he is on, can have such a huge impact on the team, but they're both big question marks going into every playoff game. With the lowering cap, I'd try to get as much for both and try to move the team in a more stable direction.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby pfim on Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:32 pm

MRandall25 wrote:
pfim wrote:
RPKJr429 wrote:If Karlsson's cap hit is 6.5 mil/yr, then a "hometown discount" by Letang would be 8yr/48mil to 8yr/52mil. I don't think Shero will commit to that without moving other pieces. My gut says he'll sign somewhere else for 1-2 mil more on a team with greater cap flexibility after taking one more shot at the cup in a contract year.


Can't really compare the two, Karlsson's contract ties him up during RFA years when the Sens controlled him. That isn't the case with Letang.


So I understand, are you implying Karlsson could've made $9 mil or more if he were a UFA?


I think his cap hit would have been more than it is, yes. I don't know what the number is.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby PhantomJB93 on Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:34 pm

I get where some of you are coming from about him not wanting to sign long term with Colorado or the panthers or somewhere like that. But if he's willing to leave Pittsburgh for an extra million or two a year, I don't think he's gonna care all that much where he ends up if they're willing to shell out the cash. Money aside, the only teams that could be considered an improvement for him over us are financially responsible enough that they probably won't give him that deal anyway.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby pens_CT on Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:52 pm

skullman80 wrote:When is the draft anyways.. im too lazy to look it up...

June 30th, in beautiful Nweark NJ.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby wondermoose on Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:58 pm

pens_CT wrote:
skullman80 wrote:When is the draft anyways.. im too lazy to look it up...

June 30th, in beautiful Nweark NJ.


It's impossible to read or say that without overloading on sarcasm.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby Idoit40fans on Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:58 pm

Weber - Letang
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby lemieuxReturns on Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:20 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:Weber - Letang


never happen :)
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby thehockeyguru on Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:35 pm

Seing as how Lindstrom made 7.1M for a majority of his career and 7.9M in his last year. I'd offer Letang half that (3.95M) since he's half the player.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby lemieuxReturns on Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:52 pm

thehockeyguru wrote:Seing as how Lindstrom made 7.1M for a majority of his career and 7.9M in his last year. I'd offer Letang half that (3.95M) since he's half the player.


why all the redwing comparisons? Are you a pens fan or just a wings fan here to troll us?
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby The Snapshot on Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:52 pm

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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby thehockeyguru on Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:54 pm

lemieuxReturns wrote:
thehockeyguru wrote:Seing as how Lindstrom made 7.1M for a majority of his career and 7.9M in his last year. I'd offer Letang half that (3.95M) since he's half the player.


why all the redwing comparisons? Are you a pens fan or just a wings fan here to troll us?


There is a difference between being a Pens fan and a homer. It's cool to be a fan but you still have to call it like you see it.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby Idoit40fans on Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:07 pm

Has there ever been a meaningful player named Lindstrom in the NHL? How is it that people make that mistake?
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby pugilist13 on Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:31 pm

Lidstrom...It's Lidstrom, for the love of God!
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby pfim on Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:48 pm

thehockeyguru wrote:Seing as how Lindstrom made 7.1M for a majority of his career and 7.9M in his last year. I'd offer Letang half that (3.95M) since he's half the player.


I'm sure that would lead to some productive discussions.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby Admin on Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:01 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:Has there ever been a meaningful player named Lindstrom in the NHL? How is it that people make that mistake?

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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby slappybrown on Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:05 pm

Bobby Orr's last contract was 5 years, 3mm total. He's a third the player Orr was, let's offer him 200K/year.

What are we even talking about at this point?

2013-2014 - Timonen (6mm), Green (6mm), Karlsson (6.5mm), Phaneuf (6.5mm), Boyle (6.66mm), Jbo (6.66mm), Chara (6.9mm), Doughty (7mm), Campbell (7.1), Suter (7.5mm).

Letang is 26. He's better than at least 5 of those guys. 6.5mm-7mm is a "fair" offer, and asking 7.5mm on his part isn't some insulting demand.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby Pitts on Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:12 pm

thehockeyguru wrote:
lemieuxReturns wrote:
thehockeyguru wrote:Seing as how Lindstrom made 7.1M for a majority of his career and 7.9M in his last year. I'd offer Letang half that (3.95M) since he's half the player.


why all the redwing comparisons? Are you a pens fan or just a wings fan here to troll us?


There is a difference between being a Pens fan and a homer. It's cool to be a fan but you still have to call it like you see it.

Lidstrom also got that deal about 20 years ago.

(I KNOW it wasn't 20 -- but it was a while ago.)
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby slappybrown on Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:13 pm

Lidstrom is completely irrelevant to this discussion, and I have no idea why THG is bringing him up other than to THG-jack the thread.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby Defence21 on Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:18 pm

slappybrown wrote:Bobby Orr's last contract was 5 years, 3mm total. He's a third the player Orr was, let's offer him 200K/year.

What are we even talking about at this point?

2013-2014 - Timonen (6mm), Green (6mm), Karlsson (6.5mm), Phaneuf (6.5mm), Boyle (6.66mm), Jbo (6.66mm), Chara (6.9mm), Doughty (7mm), Campbell (7.1), Suter (7.5mm).

Letang is 26. He's better than at least 5 of those guys. 6.5mm-7mm is a "fair" offer, and asking 7.5mm on his part isn't some insulting demand.

I'd expect him to be the highest paid of the group. Unlike Malkin, I have never sensed that Letang is the "discount" type. I could be and hope I am wrong, but it's not the opinion of gotten of him.

Of the list, he's clearly better than Timonen, Green, Phaneuf, Bouwmeester, and Campbell. He's in the same arena as Karlsson, Boyle, Doughty, and Suter. He's nowhere near Chara. His age/experience put him in a prime position to be the highest paid. He is older than Karlsson and Doughty, so his body of work is larger. He is much younger than Boyle and Chara, so he's got many years ahead of him. And he's just two years younger than Suter, but has been "the man," while Suter was playing second fiddle to Weber.

I would suspect he could command $8-$8.5 million per year on the open market, and while I don't perceive him to be a discount kind of guy, I wouldn't be surprised if he took $7.5-$8 to stay. Anything less and I'll be pleasantly surprised.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby slappybrown on Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:23 pm

I'd take Chara (for the next year or two only in all likelihood), Doughty, Suter, and Karlsson over him, and maybe one or two other guys who aren't on that list yet (the search was highest paid Dmen in 2013-2014, so it doesn't capture guys who soon will be in that group like Subban). On the open market, I could see 8mm. I think that's too much personally even if we didn't have cap issues (if he wants the max 8 years, what is a guy who is so reliant on his skating going to look like at 33? Those pinches and freelancing become even more adventurous if he doesn't adapt). In a perfect world, I'd give him 6 years and 40-42 million. Doubt he takes something like that personally.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby Mr. Colby on Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:23 pm

Defence21 wrote:
slappybrown wrote:Bobby Orr's last contract was 5 years, 3mm total. He's a third the player Orr was, let's offer him 200K/year.

What are we even talking about at this point?

2013-2014 - Timonen (6mm), Green (6mm), Karlsson (6.5mm), Phaneuf (6.5mm), Boyle (6.66mm), Jbo (6.66mm), Chara (6.9mm), Doughty (7mm), Campbell (7.1), Suter (7.5mm).

Letang is 26. He's better than at least 5 of those guys. 6.5mm-7mm is a "fair" offer, and asking 7.5mm on his part isn't some insulting demand.


I would suspect he could command $8-$8.5 million per year on the open market, and while I don't perceive him to be a discount kind of guy, I wouldn't be surprised if he took $7.5-$8 to stay. Anything less and I'll be pleasantly surprised.


I would be in complete shock if Shero got anywhere near 8 milion with his offer, ergo I'm fully expecting a trade in the next 17 days.

Brodin and Minny's 1st are high on my list!
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby slappybrown on Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:25 pm

Why would the Wild trade Brodin for Letang?
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby penny lane on Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:53 pm

I could see Letang and Tavares being a great combo. With Streit out of the picture; maybe GM RS looks to the Isles.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby MrBrightside on Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:53 pm

slappybrown wrote:I'd take Chara (for the next year or two only in all likelihood), Doughty, Suter, and Karlsson over him, and maybe one or two other guys who aren't on that list yet (the search was highest paid Dmen in 2013-2014, so it doesn't capture guys who soon will be in that group like Subban). On the open market, I could see 8mm. I think that's too much personally even if we didn't have cap issues (if he wants the max 8 years, what is a guy who is so reliant on his skating going to look like at 33? Those pinches and freelancing become even more adventurous if he doesn't adapt). In a perfect world, I'd give him 6 years and 40-42 million. Doubt he takes something like that personally.


I'd also take Keith, Pietrangelo, Ekman-Larsson, and probably Seabrook over him.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby MrBrightside on Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:54 pm

penny lane wrote:I could see Letang and Tavares being a great combo. With Streit out of the picture; maybe GM RS looks to the Isles.


I really can't see him trading him within the division.
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