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If shero had kept Jordan Staal... Do the pens win?

Postby Godric on Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:20 pm

Anyone think the Pens beat the Bruins with Staal?
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Re: If shero had kept Jordan Staal... Do the pens win?

Postby Crankshaft on Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:24 pm

Nope
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Re: If shero had kept Jordan Staal... Do the pens win?

Postby shmenguin on Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:25 pm

I think there's a good chance. Detroit in '09 and Boston in '13 show you the difference between Sutter and Staal.
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Re: If shero had kept Jordan Staal... Do the pens win?

Postby mikey287 on Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:30 pm

Nope. We got swept and didn't score in a series. This was coaching, not an individual not pulling his weight. Sutter played fine in the playoffs. He's not Jordan Staal, but we shouldn't have expected him to be. He's been good since he's been here, very good third line center. Jordan Staal doesn't change this outcome one iota...
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Re: If shero had kept Jordan Staal... Do the pens win?

Postby shmenguin on Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:33 pm

The idea of the bottom of the lineup picking up the slack on offense when the top guys get shut down comes to mind. There wasn't any hope for that in this series.
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Postby skullman80 on Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:37 pm

Maybe we win a game ...but the series? Not a chance.
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Re: If shero had kept Jordan Staal... Do the pens win?

Postby Rylan on Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:43 pm

No.
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Postby Kovy27 on Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:44 pm

Sutter had one of the two goals in that series.
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Re: If shero had kept Jordan Staal... Do the pens win?

Postby KG on Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:58 pm

Too hypothetical to answer that. The Pens became a deeper team because of the Staal trade. Who knows, if they keep Staal maybe they wouldn't have been the #1 seed and would have went out in an earlier round...
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Re: If shero had kept Jordan Staal... Do the pens win?

Postby npv708 on Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:01 pm

Jordan Staal would've been benched for Stu Barnes.
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Postby SolidSnake on Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:04 pm

Just like if the Pens had Staal they would of swept the Isles and Senators
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Postby no name on Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:08 pm

I don't even think Staal could of made a difference in the team defence that Boston played. Look at Chicago best team all season and in the playoffs and Boston is playing with them and beating them. They play team defence like I havn't seen since Detroit in 08.
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Postby FreeCandy44 on Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:26 pm

Can we please just let this year die?
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Re: If shero had kept Jordan Staal... Do the pens win?

Postby npv708 on Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:28 pm

Actually, the correct answer is Arron Asham. If the Pens had kept Arron Asham, they would have won.

Thanks for playing though.
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Postby taz71 on Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:35 pm

The Pens would have won more times than not with the same team. Series of unfortunate circumstances imho. Key was toronto making history in the first round lol.
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Postby Mr. Colby on Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:36 pm

Should have kept Frantisek Kucera back in the early 2000s
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Re: If shero had kept Jordan Staal... Do the pens win?

Postby CERV96 on Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:54 am

Nope. One player does not make a difference. You could make the case for a hot goaltender but he does not put the puck in the net.
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Postby shafnutz05 on Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:16 am

Nope.
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Postby Take the Body Shoot the Puck on Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:42 am

No, the roster was absolutely stacked. We didn't lose this series because of the roster or an individual player.
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Re: If shero had kept Jordan Staal... Do the pens win?

Postby meow on Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:54 am

Is this a serious question?
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Postby KennyTheKangaroo on Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:11 am

Sutter produced 50% of the offensive output in this series. Ergo, he was alright in this gentlemans opinion.
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Re: If shero had kept Jordan Staal... Do the pens win?

Postby pens2005 on Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:27 am

mikey287 wrote:Nope. We got swept and didn't score in a series. This was coaching, not an individual not pulling his weight. Sutter played fine in the playoffs. He's not Jordan Staal, but we shouldn't have expected him to be. He's been good since he's been here, very good third line center. Jordan Staal doesn't change this outcome one iota...


I have such a hard time just putting it on coaching. I agree it was bad, but your two superstars did absolutely nothing for 4 games.

Your star defenseman was a turnover machine.

What's DB supposed to do, go out on the ice and stop him from turning it over?

Pegging this all on the coach lets the players off WAY too easy. They deserve some serious blame.
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Re: If shero had kept Jordan Staal... Do the pens win?

Postby Pitts on Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:35 am

FreeCandy44 wrote:Can we please just let this year die?

:thumb: This is like saying "If the Pens still had Mario playing, would they have beat Boston?"
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Re: If shero had kept Jordan Staal... Do the pens win?

Postby meow on Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:41 am

Pitts wrote:
FreeCandy44 wrote:Can we please just let this year die?

:thumb: This is like saying "If the Pens still had Mario playing, would they have beat Boston?"

1993 Mario or 2005 Mario?
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Re: If shero had kept Jordan Staal... Do the pens win?

Postby Pitts on Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:45 am

meow wrote:
Pitts wrote:
FreeCandy44 wrote:Can we please just let this year die?

:thumb: This is like saying "If the Pens still had Mario playing, would they have beat Boston?"

1993 Mario or 2005 Mario?

2013 Mario.
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