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Jacques Martin hired by the Penguins as an assistant coach

Postby ILikeTurtles on Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:03 am

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NEWS ALERT: #Pens have hired Jacques Martin as an assistant coach. He joins Granato and Reirden on Bylsma's staff.
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Re: Jacques Martin hired by the Penguins as an assistant coa

Postby Rylan on Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:05 am

So 2 former head coaches on the Penguins coaching staff now?
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Re: Jacques Martin hired by the Penguins as an assistant coa

Postby TheHammer24 on Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:06 am

This seems like an odd move to me. Martin is a perennial head coaching candidate, but now decides to join a team with an engrained head coach and staff. Shrug.
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Re: Jacques Martin hired by the Penguins as an assistant coa

Postby Factorial on Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:07 am

Good move. Also, hopefully this will placate the Bylsma haters.
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Re: Jacques Martin hired by the Penguins as an assistant coa

Postby Rocco on Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:07 am

Guess Martin is the coach in waiting if Bylsma falters.
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Re: Jacques Martin hired by the Penguins as an assistant coa

Postby pcm on Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:07 am

Coach in waiting? He'll bring more defensive structure to the team.
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Re: Jacques Martin hired by the Penguins as an assistant coa

Postby Factorial on Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:08 am

Rylan wrote:So 2 former head coaches on the Penguins coaching staff now?


Where is the problem in that? As long as they all agree as to who is the current coach.
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Re: Jacques Martin hired by the Penguins as an assistant coa

Postby Rylan on Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:10 am

Didn't imply it was an issue. Just not something I would expect, especially with a coach like Jacques Martin.
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Re: Jacques Martin hired by the Penguins as an assistant coa

Postby TheHammer24 on Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:13 am

Factorial wrote:Good move. Also, hopefully this will placate the Bylsma haters.

I didn't even think of that. Dear god, you're so right. This consequence was no doubt Shero's motivation.
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Re: Jacques Martin hired by the Penguins as an assistant coa

Postby largegarlic on Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:16 am

Wow, this is pretty high up on the list of things I thought would never happen. I wonder how the dynamic will be with Bylsma, but this signals that the powers that be (Shero/Mario) recognize that the team needs to be much better defensively and the current coaching staff wasn't likely to get them there.
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Re: Jacques Martin hired by the Penguins as an assistant coa

Postby GSdrums87 on Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:17 am

Perhaps this creates a defensively sound north south team we've been waiting to see. Perhaps it's the shortening of Bylsma's leash. Who knows, but it's certainly not a bad thing by any means.
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Re: Jacques Martin hired by the Penguins as an assistant coa

Postby Factorial on Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:18 am

TheHammer24 wrote:
Factorial wrote:Good move. Also, hopefully this will placate the Bylsma haters.

I didn't even think of that. Dear god, you're so right. This consequence was no doubt Shero's motivation.


:thumb: I think Shero was sick of logging in here and seeing DaveSteve's posts of "Bylsma".
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Re: Jacques Martin hired by the Penguins as an assistant coa

Postby ILikeTurtles on Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:20 am

3 ass = 1 head?
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Re: Jacques Martin hired by the Penguins as an assistant coa

Postby no name on Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:22 am

Players love Bylsma and how he handles the team. He is someone in the locker room that players are comfortable playing for. This is a small part as to what makes player want to stay with the Pens.

Now getting a stratgy coach like Martin is super smart for Shero to bring in. Ok Dan can be the great guy in the locker room but it will be Martin outlining the system for the players to use on this ice. Dan just goes over it in the room. I am sure Martin scout the other teams and how they play and suggest it might be better for the Pens to play this system vs them.

Don't get me wrong i am not a Byslma supporter and would much rather see a Martin behind the bench. But i can't say the idea doesn't make good sence if my guess is right. Martin systems, Bylsma teaches it.

It was always said Bob Johnson taught the penguins the system but it was Bowmans plans he was following in the 90 cup run.
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Re: Jacques Martin hired by the Penguins as an assistant coa

Postby Pitts on Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:26 am

TheHammer24 wrote:This seems like an odd move to me. Martin is a perennial head coaching candidate, but now decides to join a team with an engrained head coach and staff. Shrug.

I concur, very interesting. This tells me, though, that at least someone in the organization believes we need a shift in system or approach.
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Re: Jacques Martin hired by the Penguins as an assistant coa

Postby penny lane on Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:30 am

Summer's over for Coach Blysma. I like that GM Shero recognized a need and filled it. Next up; scoring guy around the net. 8-) :wink:
I'll have to read more about Jacques' career and what he will bring to the penguins.
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Re: Jacques Martin hired by the Penguins as an assistant coa

Postby pcm on Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:39 am

penny lane wrote:Summer's over for Coach Blysma. I like that GM Shero recognized a need and filled it. Next up; scoring guy around the net. 8-) :wink:
I'll have to read more about Jacques' career and what he will bring to the penguins.


http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/story/2 ... diens.html
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Re: Jacques Martin hired by the Penguins as an assistant coa

Postby Bioshock on Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:40 am

Dejan seems to think that this hire came from above and that it's very odd to have a coach of this style and pedigree be the SECOND assistant head coach on the team. Insinuates that if the team falters, this would be the guy to take over.

I agree with him.
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Re: Jacques Martin hired by the Penguins as an assistant coa

Postby MRandall25 on Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:40 am

It adds something we don't have on the coaching staff, and it gives someone with head coaching experience who can compliment Bylsma's offense with solid defense.

As a lesser note, it gives someone who can take over if Bylsma gets busy with Team USA close to the Olympics.
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Re: Jacques Martin hired by the Penguins as an assistant coa

Postby Rylan on Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:44 am

It gives someone with an intricate knowledge of a packed in defense and trapping that may be able to shed light on what the Penguins need to do to be effective against that system.
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Re: Jacques Martin hired by the Penguins as an assistant coa

Postby Beveridge on Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:52 am

This is like a win-win for Bylsma haters.

They get to still blame Bylsma if the team doesn't win, but now they have a new person to give credit to when they win and still hold their stance Bylsma's terrible.

HIGH FIVE PEOPLE, HIGH FIVE.


*I think this is a great move all jokes aside.
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Re: Jacques Martin hired by the Penguins as an assistant coa

Postby Crankshaft on Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:58 am

no name wrote:Now getting a stratgy coach like Martin is super smart for Shero to bring in. Ok Dan can be the great guy in the locker room but it will be Martin outlining the system for the players to use on this ice. Dan just goes over it in the room. I am sure Martin scout the other teams and how they play and suggest it might be better for the Pens to play this system vs them.


So you're saying Jacques Martin is the secret coach and Dan Bylsma is nothing but a mouth piece? :lol:
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Re: Jacques Martin hired by the Penguins as an assistant coa

Postby penny lane on Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:58 am

"I believe in a puck-possession game," Martin said. "I think the best defence is if you can play in the offensive zone."


Good read pcm~ thanks! :thumb:

AS Herb Brooks said; "options!"
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Re: Jacques Martin hired by the Penguins as an assistant coa

Postby TheHammer24 on Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:13 pm

no name wrote:Players love Bylsma and how he handles the team. He is someone in the locker room that players are comfortable playing for. This is a small part as to what makes player want to stay with the Pens.

Now getting a stratgy coach like Martin is super smart for Shero to bring in. Ok Dan can be the great guy in the locker room but it will be Martin outlining the system for the players to use on this ice. Dan just goes over it in the room. I am sure Martin scout the other teams and how they play and suggest it might be better for the Pens to play this system vs them.

Don't get me wrong i am not a Byslma supporter and would much rather see a Martin behind the bench. But i can't say the idea doesn't make good sence if my guess is right. Martin systems, Bylsma teaches it.

It was always said Bob Johnson taught the penguins the system but it was Bowmans plans he was following in the 90 cup run.


These sorts of posts make me want to absolutely rip my hair out. Byslma is an absolutely excellent X's and O's coach. He's not some buddy of the players, although he is undoubtedly a phenomenal coach for whom to play. Some times those X's and O's, I'm sure, could align differently, and Martin, who is an excellent defensive system coach, will augment Danny B's system. But the suggestion that Martin is going to be the shadow coach because Byslma is just a friend shows a naivete so absurd I can't handle it.
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Re: Jacques Martin hired by the Penguins as an assistant coa

Postby pens_CT on Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:35 pm

Bioshock wrote:Dejan seems to think that this hire came from above and that it's very odd to have a coach of this style and pedigree be the SECOND assistant head coach on the team. Insinuates that if the team falters, this would be the guy to take over.

I agree with him.

I tend to agree. Shero was in the Senators organization when Martin was the coach. Martin's coaching style is pretty much opposite of HCDB. I'd like to know what responsibilites Martin will have versus the other two assistant coaches. Does any other team in the NHL have three assistants?
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