pcm wrote: Jesse wrote: pcm wrote:
Brendan Morrow 40 years old? I would have stopped reading there, but it was at the end of your post.
The guy is 2 months older than Kunitz, who we just gave a 4 year contract.
Morrow got pushed out of Dallas because the team is in rebuild mode. They were ready to hand over the keys of the franchise to the next generation. Can you imagine working in that environment? Of course your production is going to nose dive.
He came in here and was almost a ppg player until he got moved to checking line duties with Sutter. And then he became one of the best Corsi players on the team. But okay, let's say he's useless because he was brought in to "fix" the team's issues and they still got swept by Boston.
Okay, I misthought he was 36 going on 37 this year. But if you want to disregard the rest of my insight I've tried to provide based on that misunderstanding, that's cool too.
While we're pointing out misnomers, Morrow's Corsi in the playoffs was -13.90, in the regular season it was -14.00 excluding Dallas. Those numbers are nowhere near one of the best on the team. I would have stopped reading there, but that was at the end of your post.
Okay, wait, didn't you post a defense of Sutter during the playoffs saying that his impeccable defensive work more than makes up for his black hole on offense? Sutter was 3rd worst Corsi on the team during the playoffs.
Not sure if that line just got destroyed against Bos or maybe you were just posting Corsi QoC, but whatever stats you were using to defend Sutter, Morrow was right there with him. That's what I was "recalling" in my post.
Just another case of using stats to back up, instead of inform, your perspective. I saw an effective player in Morrow. I saw a timid player in Sutter (in the playoffs, I think he'll be fine moving forward). You saw the opposite. Throw some stats back and forth. Yay.
I thought Morrow did an admirable job in the playoffs, especially considering the nature of his injury. My main point, which I think you're missing, is that his on-ice ability took a backseat to his presence in the room when you ask the question of "Why did Ray Shero bring him here in the first place?" The reality of the situation is that the front office expected a little more out of him in the room, and it wasn't there, whether we agree with that strategy or not.
Skill wise, he's become a gritty presence on the ice that you can find virtually anywhere in the NHL. And it's my belief that if the Penguins had the resources to sign a player of that ilk, they would have focused their attention elsewhere. I'm not going to bemoan the loss of Brendan Morrow (not saying you are) all over the internet because in reality the guy does what plenty of younger guys do who are in a lot better shape physically speaking and in the uptick of their career.
My defense of Sutter was in the goals against numbers to back up the job he was doing defensively on the ice. I try to use advanced stats to back up what the eye test tells people, or to refute, whatever the case may be. At the end of the day, statistics are statistics, and I am not going to live and die by what they say, I do believe they provide excellent insight though.
FWIW, Sutter's lines throughout his NHL career have always been buried as far as Corsi is concerned. But his goals against numbers are phenomenal. It's really something to behold when you think about it. Morrow should be applauded for his work defensively in the playoffs considering some of his gaffe's when he first arrived here.