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Re: Fleury is done

Postby Pitt87 on Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:13 pm

DropEmJayBird wrote:
tfrizz wrote:Nah, that's as much on Fleury as it is on the team. The idea is that it's easier to play your game when you trust the team in front of you, but a good veteran goalie (*cough*Vokoun*cough*) can do it regardless.

He's just got to learn to extract himself from the play of the team in front of him and play his game no matter what goes on around him. I'll guarantee Vokoun picked that up on those terrible Florida teams.


Eh I saw Vokoun lose it against Florida last year, when he got ran a few times. In terms of Vokoun - the Ottawa series really told us nothing because the penguins simply outclassed Ottawa, and the Bruins really didn't attack according to Letang, and besides who could ever fault a goalie when you only score 2 goals the entire series.

I do think Vokoun's time spent on crappy teams may have helped, although my guess is as a crappy team, they played as defensive as possible in hopes to pull out a 1 goal win.

Steigy mentioned the Brodeur interview - and said that Brodeur talked about how he was fine stopping shots he expected, it was the ones he didn't expect that he needed his defense to limit or take away. I think that's more of the point with Fluery - take away those open guys, the free look guys, and it makes the goalies job of focusing on the puck much easier as opposed to focusing on the guys open to the side of the net.


Precisely. MAF has seen more shots he has little chance to stop in his career so far than most goaltenders may ever see. He also saves way more than his share of them.
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Re: Fleury is done

Postby Idoit40fans on Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:41 pm

What are statements that can't be proven one way other the other and are absolutely subjective?

I'll finish the category for $1000.
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Re: Fleury is done

Postby Rylan on Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:47 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:What are statements that can't be proven one way other the other and are absolutely subjective?

I'll finish the category for $1000.


You are talking about pretty much everything in this thread either way. Good call.
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Re: Fleury is done

Postby MRandall25 on Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:53 pm

Both of these threads (this and Bylsma) are reaching the absurd.
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Re: Fleury is done

Postby Froggy on Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:58 pm

I think saying "I'm skeptical of Fleury based on his previous struggles in the playoffs" is a perfectly reasonable thing to say. "Fleury is done" is not. digging deep to criticize things about fleury in a game he had a shutout is not.
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Re: Fleury is done

Postby MRandall25 on Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:02 pm

I was more referring to the very minute details that are being argued about. It's slowly become a "you used the wrong wording" argument than anything else.
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Re: Fleury is done

Postby count2infinity on Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:04 pm

MRandall25 wrote:I was more referring to the very minute details that are being argued about. It's slowly become a "you used the wrong wording" argument than anything else.


You should have said "becoming" not "become".
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Re: Fleury is done

Postby Idoit40fans on Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:05 pm

It's can be a contraction for "it has" so he's fine. :pop:
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Re: Fleury is done

Postby MRandall25 on Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:06 pm

On my phone, but I see what you did there.

Or, if you interpreted "It's" as "it has", the wording would make sense :pop:
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Re: Fleury is done

Postby count2infinity on Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:08 pm

stupid contractions...
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Re: Fleury is done

Postby ExPatriatePen on Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:08 pm

count2infinity wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:I was more referring to the very minute details that are being argued about. It's slowly become a "you used the wrong wording" argument than anything else.


You should have said "becoming" not "become".


You sould have written "written" not "said". This is a written board not a verbal forum. :pop:
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Re: Fleury is done

Postby Rylan on Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:09 pm

ExPatriatePen wrote:
count2infinity wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:I was more referring to the very minute details that are being argued about. It's slowly become a "you used the wrong wording" argument than anything else.


You should have said "becoming" not "become".


You sould have written "written" not "said". This is a written board not a verbal forum. :pop:


You should have written "should" not "shold". That is just incorrect. :pop:
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Re: Fleury is done

Postby count2infinity on Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:11 pm

Okay, that's enough... time to go back to talking about how Fleury still sucks.
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Re: Fleury is done

Postby Idoit40fans on Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:11 pm

He actually typed "sould" so you should have typed "sould" rather than "shold". Also, we are not writing. You should be typing "typed"
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Re: Fleury is done

Postby meow on Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:12 pm

These last few posts have been more coherent and informative than the previous 19 pages.
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Re: Fleury is done

Postby Sam's Drunk Dog on Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:08 pm

Every time someone posts in this thread God kills a puppy.
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Re: Fleury is done

Postby Idoit40fans on Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:02 am

End of Days.
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Re: Fleury is done

Postby Jim on Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:04 am

You just killed a puppy...
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Re: Fleury is done

Postby Idoit40fans on Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:04 am

No, God did.
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Re: Fleury is done

Postby pensfan1989 on Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:32 pm

:pop:
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Re: Fleury is done

Postby Pavel Bure on Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:06 pm

pensfan1989 wrote::pop:

I like the people bumping this like the regular season is what fans were worried about.
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Re: Fleury is done

Postby Hugo Stiglitz on Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:13 pm

Pavel Bure wrote:
pensfan1989 wrote::pop:

I like the people bumping this like the regular season is what fans were worried about.


Exactly. The playoffs are Fleury's issue.

THAT BEING SAID...I have to say that I think Fleury is playing better. He looks sharper and more together. While he's always the top in wins for goalies, he's rarely been high up on the stats charts.

Who knows if he can keep this improved play going all year, but I like what I'm seeing from him. I know it's regular season, but he's playing the strongest I've seen from him in a long time.
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Re: Fleury is done

Postby count2infinity on Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:53 am

count2infinity wrote:I'd laugh so hard if he comes out and puts up crazy numbers and then everyone jumps on the "fleury is awesome" bandwagon then he sucks in the playoffs again just to remind everyone who he is.
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Re: Fleury is done

Postby llipgh2 on Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:47 am

Hugo Stiglitz wrote:
THAT BEING SAID...I have to say that I think Fleury is playing better. He looks sharper and more together. While he's always the top in wins for goalies, he's rarely been high up on the stats charts.

Who knows if he can keep this improved play going all year, but I like what I'm seeing from him. I know it's regular season, but he's playing the strongest I've seen from him in a long time.


I'm concerned, with Vokoun out, that they'll play Fleury too much. Really can't gauge yet how much confidence they have in Zatkoff.

I would think this weekend, with back to back games, they'll play Fleury one night and Zatkoff one night. Z had to get some playing time in if he is indeed going to be here the entire season.
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Re: Fleury is done

Postby Froggy on Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:14 am

I'm going to optimistically chalk up Zatkoff's performance against Florida as butterflies, but if it proves to be more than that, Shero will HAVE to make a move if Vokoun isn't realistically likely to come back. I don't think there is a very good chance we'll see Zatkoff the entire season, or at least THAT Zatkoff.
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