Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

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Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby Penspal on Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:52 am

Pens win 5-1

- Outcome is what you hope for when top team plays the worst team in the league (plus no Moulson, no Myers)
- Sid & Geno both had amazing goals, and both looked great all night. Game over when it was 4-1, fork in 'em, their done!
- Loved it when Gibbons scored & Martin raised Gibby's hand forcing a celebration
- Martin showed flashes of his old self, skating out of danger on a few occasions
- Engy has guts. Scott is a tough hombre & outreached/outweighed him by a ton. Borts might have been a better matchup, but he's not as experienced
- MAF made a few more highlight reel saves while staying composed, however first Sabre's goal was a classic MAF behind the net gaffe
- Pens keep allowing first goals against, not a good trend
- Stafford might be available, he can shoot the puck & could add punch to 3/4 line offense
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Re: Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby dodint on Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:53 am

Entertaining game. Nice little pre-Olympic pick me up.
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Re: Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby Chirpin' Grinder on Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:25 am

-Good effort after the first 10 minutes

-Martin was better, Orpik was just brutal again. Seriously, I hate to say it because I have been a big 44 fan, but he is just playing awful hockey. He looks lost and it looks more mental, like his mind has lost step more so than his legs. He looks like he doesn't really want to be out there. Reactions are more than a split second late. On one sequence he had the puck on his stick twice and both times just flipped it out to the point and the Sabres easily kept it in and regained possession. Watch the game again and dial in on Orpik during his shifts. Hopefully the Olympic break (can DB really dress him?) will help him refocus and find some desire.

-It has been opined here on this board that Derrick Pouliot projects to be a Brian Campbell type. I would take Zemgus Girgensons over Campbell and Pouliot. Still hard to fathom how Shero thought a smallish offensive backliner was more of a need, even if Pouliot hits his ceiling, than a big, strong two way forward like Girgensons. Buffalo has at least one solid piece moving forward. Possible captain material? Imagine Girgensons/Sutter/Bennett as a third unit! Ray, perhaps you need the number for MAF's shrink to deal with this D man drafting obession/attachment to over the hill vets schizophrenia?

-MAF's blocker save, I think it was on Stafford?, was nearly as impressive as the glove save two nights prior.

-No thanks on Ott. He is similar to Orpik and Cooke in that he picks and chooses who to hit and won't drop 'em when called out. Engo probably should have declined Scott's invitation, but lets give Deryk the benefit of the doubt. He is a warrior and didn't give an inch of ice. After the fight he had a few nice shifts, laying some solid checks and helping to maintain possession in the offensive zone. He even created a few scoring chances. His potential as a solid 4th liner is readily apparent and should be cultivated during the remaining games.

-Bortuzzo had another good effort. Was invigorating to see a Pens d-man go hard at guys like Marcus Foligno and get the best of the confrontation. MOAR Borts please.

-Really hard to watch those shifts with 87 and 71 late in 3rd period after Pens already have a big lead. Flirting with disaster.
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Re: Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby Gaucho on Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:34 am

Chirpin' Grinder wrote:-It has been opined here on this board that Derrick Pouliot projects to be a Brian Campbell type. I would take Zemgus Girgensons over Campbell and Pouliot. Still hard to fathom how Shero thought a smallish offensive backliner was more of a need, even if Pouliot hits his ceiling, than a big, strong two way forward like Girgensons. Buffalo has at least one solid piece moving forward. Possible captain material? Imagine Girgensons/Sutter/Bennett as a third unit! Ray, perhaps you need the number for MAF's shrink to deal with this D man drafting obession/attachment to over the hill vets schizophrenia?


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Re: Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby llipgh2 on Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:45 am

Chirpin' Grinder wrote:-Orpik was just brutal again. Seriously, I hate to say it because I have been a big 44 fan, but he is just playing awful hockey. He looks lost and it looks more mental, like his mind has lost step more so than his legs. He looks like he doesn't really want to be out there.


Suffering from post concussions issues? Very real possibility.
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Re: Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby Hugo Stiglitz on Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:52 am

Solid game all around.

I focused more on Gibbons and Zolernoewuck and really liked what I saw.
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Re: Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby pcm on Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:58 am

Interestingly, Gibbons' possession numbers are far and away the best on the team (of forwards).

Watching a game from the press box did Megna good. He was flying out there again, and created a few solid scoring chances.

Fleury is going to make team Canada regret not taking him.
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Re: Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby Froggy on Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:59 am

It's funny seeing the quotes out of Buffalo from after the game. They're all like "well shucks... They're just a much better team than us. What do you want us to do?"
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Re: Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby Pruezy11881 on Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:01 am

-Megna, Z man, and Gibbons...got rockets in their skates. Those guys are flying on the ice.
-Fleury is partially to blame for the goal, but didn't get any help from Scuds (?) behind the net. Looked like he just gave the puck to a Sabre.
-Malkin is a man among children right now. Skating and handling is ridiculous.
-Sid looked more like Sid last night.
-Gibbons goal was super quick. I didn't see the puck in the net until it was almost on the ice.
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Re: Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby Hugo Stiglitz on Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:13 am

[quote="Pruezy11881"]-
-Fleury is partially to blame for the goal, but didn't get any help from Scuds (?) behind the net. Looked like he just gave the puck to a Sabre.
/quote]

Or maybe nobody picked up Stafford? He had NOBODY covering him.
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Re: Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby Gaucho on Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:14 am

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Re: Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby Cu11en on Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:18 am

Buffalo is big, slow, and lack skill. It's depressing to be the last meeting of the season. Those games are easy on my nerves.
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Re: Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby RisslingsMissingTeeth on Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:31 am

Came here to bash Orpik and apparently was way late to the party.

Can we please call up Despres and put Brooks out of our misery now?
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Re: Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby meow on Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:41 am

Martin was +3
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Re: Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby The U on Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:44 am

Harry Z, Megna, Gibbons. Love their speed and the energy they bring to the ice. Winning races to loose pucks and just being noticeable every shift. Last year a lack of speed was pretty evident when we faced certain teams. Any chance these guys are in the lineup for the playoffs? Assuming Shero adds a forward or two before the deadline how and where do you squeeze them in? Vitale and Bennett will be returning from injury as well so factor them into the equation. Maybe they are simply nice depth to have and will be scratched come playoff time. Could/Should some of these guys be playing instead of Adams/Pyatt/etc...? Sure....but we know that's not happening.

Bortuzzo is in the same boat. Sure he turns the puck over once or twice per game (but every defenseman on the team does that). He brings an element to the lineup that nobody else does. When fully healthy though, there is really no room for him to dress. Could/Should he replace Orpik? Maybe...but we know that's not happening.
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Re: Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby Shakes on Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:50 am

Froggy wrote:It's funny seeing the quotes out of Buffalo from after the game. They're all like "well shucks... They're just a much better team than us. What do you want us to do?"


I thought they played the Pens pretty tough for ~30 mins. Then they got down a couple goals and packed it in for the night (except for a couple guys like Ott).
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Re: Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby Gaucho on Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:51 am

This place is too depressing after wins.

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Re: Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby Gaucho on Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:54 am

Not sure what to make of this.

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Kind of curious/encouraging: Pascal Dupuis ran lower-bowl steps before #Penguins practice. Brace on right knee. Having ACL surgery Feb. 12.
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Re: Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby Avyran on Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:00 pm

Just a good game. No complaints here.
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Re: Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby nastystang05 on Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:08 pm

Pre surgery exercise is normal prior to surgery especially acl surgery. The knee is still functional there isn't any reason he can't exercise with a brace. If he didn't have brace the femur would just translate fwd on the tibia and give out.
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Re: Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby The U on Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:14 pm

NFL linemen have been known to strap on a brace and finish out a season on a completely torn ACL. You would be far less than 100% though.

Dupuis jogging around with a brace on doesn't mean the injury is any better or worse than any other torn ACL. His game is built on speed and quickness. Hopefully he is 100% by the start of next season in 9 months.
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Re: Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby Pitts on Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:16 pm

Hugo Stiglitz wrote:
Pruezy11881 wrote:-
-Fleury is partially to blame for the goal, but didn't get any help from Scuds (?) behind the net. Looked like he just gave the puck to a Sabre.
/quote]

Or maybe nobody picked up Stafford? He had NOBODY covering him.

Yeah, for the 1st 10-15 minutes of the game the Pens were asleep. Buffalo was allowed to run all over the place. There was ZERO defensive help on that goal. Start of the 2nd period we saw a different Pen's team for the remainder of the game.
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Re: Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby Gaucho on Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:19 pm

nastystang05 wrote:Pre surgery exercise is normal prior to surgery especially acl surgery. The knee is still functional there isn't any reason he can't exercise with a brace. If he didn't have brace the femur would just translate fwd on the tibia and give out.


Thanks. He's not coming back this season, is he?
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Re: Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby tfrizz on Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:23 pm

Gaucho wrote:
nastystang05 wrote:Pre surgery exercise is normal prior to surgery especially acl surgery. The knee is still functional there isn't any reason he can't exercise with a brace. If he didn't have brace the femur would just translate fwd on the tibia and give out.


Thanks. He's not coming back this season, is he?


According to WebMD:

Physical rehabilitation after ACL surgery may take several months to a year. The length of time until you can return to normal activities or sports is different for every person. It may range from 4 to 6 months.


http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/ante ... cl-surgery


Not that this should surprise anyone. ACL surgery in February is a season ender 10 times out of 10.
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Re: Game 57 vs Buffalo - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby darkstar57 on Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:27 pm

As someone who has ACL surgery, you can do little exercise prior to surgery depending on the seriousness of the injury. its going side to side, jumping, stopping on a dime, things of that nature that really put your knee your through ringer that you wont be able to do. My doctor actually encourage me to walk to keep my muscle active before surgery
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