the wild card position... Poll

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which 2 will claim the wild card postions, you get 2 votes.

Toronto
16
10%
Detroit
58
37%
Columbus
55
35%
Washington
21
14%
Other
5
3%
 
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the wild card position... Poll

Postby no name on Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:30 am

Which 2 teams in the east claim the wild card spots. These 4 teams are tied with 80 points.

Also mention who you might like to see make the playoffs and who you think would be our worst matchup if we face them?

I think Detroit and Washington will make the playoffs, and Detroit would be a terrible 1st round match up for us.

I would love to see Columbus make the playoffs, seems like every year they are on the outside looking in.
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Re: the wild card position... Poll

Postby dodint on Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:34 am

I want Columbus in, and I think they'll make it. The other team will probably be Detroit, but everything about that team stinks this year and I'd hate to see them rewarded with a playoff series, even if they've shown improvement.

Toronto? lol, no.

Washington? Ugh. I guess it'd be fun to have them in there just for the lulz.
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Re: the wild card position... Poll

Postby darkstar57 on Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:01 pm

i hope Det makes its as the 8th seed and has to play boston. they are going to give boston fits
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Re: the wild card position... Poll

Postby Great58 on Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:31 pm

I'm going to guess BJ's at 7 and Washington at 8.
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Re: the wild card position... Poll

Postby Antonio on Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:28 pm

Great58 wrote:I'm going to guess BJ's at 7 and Washington at 8.


+1.
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Re: the wild card position... Poll

Postby knives of ice on Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:57 pm

Detroit is the worst possible team the penguins can play in the first round by a longshot and a tough matchup for the Bs as well. If they get healthy it could be argued they are more talented this year than the team that was up 3-1 on the hawks last year.

best possible matchup is obviously columbus.
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Re: the wild card position... Poll

Postby Durbano on Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:08 pm

Tough call on who makes it, mainly because it's impossible to know if the "other" teams will be playing for anything.

For instance, Detroit finishes at St. Louis. Blues could be locked in to their playoff/conference seed at that point. Washington's penultimate game is vs. Chicago.

I picked Detroit and Washington to qualify. Don't want any part of the Wings in round one.
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Re: the wild card position... Poll

Postby brwi on Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:20 pm

Detroit and Blue Jackets.
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Re: the wild card position... Poll

Postby BfromD on Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:49 pm

Quick question: Do the two wild card teams automatically slot into the bracket within their division, regardless of the number of points they have compared to each other? In other words, if DET and CBJ are the two wildcards - and DET has more points - do the Wings play the B's (#1 seed) by virtue of division alignment? Or will the B's get the lower wildcard regardless?

Thanks.
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Re: the wild card position... Poll

Postby MRandall25 on Sat Mar 29, 2014 4:19 pm

No. The wild cards aren't based on division alignment (as far as I know).
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Re: the wild card position... Poll

Postby slappybrown on Sat Mar 29, 2014 4:55 pm

Boston as the one seed gets the worst of the two wild cards regardless of division (eg if DET is at 91 and CBS is at 90 Boston gets CBS and we get DET). The second round though reverts to inter-division only so we play winner of NYR-phi assuming we survive round 1, which we will dot namath
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Re: the wild card position... Poll

Postby no name on Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:29 pm

MRandall25 wrote:No. The wild cards aren't based on division alignment (as far as I know).



that is correct,

But if it was up to me, they would of maintained the divisional match ups when ever possible. Even if the wild cards are from to separate divisions they would just stay in their place. The only way a team could be misplaced is if both wild cards were from the same division. In that case, since the 5th seed in that division stole the other teams 4th spot they get transplanted.

Doesn't make that much of a deal in the east but part of the whole reason for realignment was less travel especially at playoff time keeping the time zones correct in the first 2 rounds. you still have a chance at a Central and West team facing in the first round.

Even when the league goes to 32 teams I hope they keep a wild card format, makes it a bit more exciting.
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Re: the wild card position... Poll

Postby KG on Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:10 pm

Wonder if Toronto will fire Carlyle after this type of late season collapse? They have played 2 more games then the teams they are battling with and have lost 7 straight....

Never been a big fan of Carlyle the coach...
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Re: the wild card position... Poll

Postby slappybrown on Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:14 pm

Carlyle makes Bylsma look like Scotty bowman when it comes to lineup decisions
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Re: the wild card position... Poll

Postby Penspal on Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:29 pm

Columbus & Detroit = Wildcards

like Columbus, but will_ enjoy Pens >> Detroit
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Re: the wild card position... Poll

Postby Headshot77 on Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:42 am

Penspal wrote:Columbus & Detroit = Wildcards

like Columbus, but will_ enjoy Pens >> Detroit

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To make this post relevant: I hope Detroit upsets Boston, and we clean up Columbus in a solid 5 games. Detroit, Philly, and Pittsburgh (fan goggles) are the only three teams I think could actually pull off an upset on Boston.
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Re: the wild card position... Poll

Postby pens2005 on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:33 am

Id like the first two rounds to be pure interdivisonal but what would happen if both wild cards are from the same division (ie WAS and CBJ)? It would ruin it.

They have to keep it as points due to the way it's set up now.

So the playoff format as it stands now is semi-flawed IMO.
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Re: the wild card position... Poll

Postby Great58 on Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:09 pm

pens2005 wrote:Id like the first two rounds to be pure interdivisonal but what would happen if both wild cards are from the same division (ie WAS and CBJ)? It would ruin it.

They have to keep it as points due to the way it's set up now.

So the playoff format as it stands now is semi-flawed IMO.

The big flaw, IMHO, is that the second place team in a division could be better than the other division winner, yet get a far harder draw. But I guess they really wanted to reward the division winners over all else, so so be it.
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Re: the wild card position... Poll

Postby columbia on Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:11 pm

Is it possible for Columbus to get the 2nd WC and play the Atlantic winner, while Detroit plays Pittsburgh? If so, that's dumb.
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Re: the wild card position... Poll

Postby Great58 on Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:29 pm

columbia wrote:Is it possible for Columbus to get the 2nd WC and play the Atlantic winner, while Detroit plays Pittsburgh? If so, that's dumb.

Yes.
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Re: the wild card position... Poll

Postby SubtropicalPenguin on Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:02 pm

slappybrown wrote:Boston as the one seed gets the worst of the two wild cards regardless of division (eg if DET is at 91 and CBS is at 90 Boston gets CBS and we get DET). The second round though reverts to inter-division only so we play winner of NYR-phi assuming we survive round 1, which we will dot namath


Wait, what? I thought the second round was highest seed against lowest seed, regardless of division. For example, if (1) Boston, (2) Pittsburgh, (3) Tampa [with say 95 points] and (4) Philly [with say 93 points] all win, then Boston plays Philly and Pittsburgh plays Tampa. Am I wrong on this?

If they are trying to maintain division playoff games, then it really makes no sense if the two winners of the division leaders v wildcard games are both from the same division.
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Re: the wild card position... Poll

Postby MRandall25 on Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:07 pm

The first round is:

Atlantic:

Boston v 4 (2nd wild card spot, any division)
A2 v A3 (the 2 and 3 seed in the Atlantic)

Metropolitan:

Pens v 4 (1st wildcard, or the "7th" seed, any division)
M2 v M3 (2 and 3 seed in Metro)

The second round would still be divisional:

Atlantic:

Winner of Bos/4 vs Winner of A2/A3

Metropolitan:

Winner of Pens/4 vs Winner of M2/M3

Only the ECF will feature cross-division play, not counting the wildcards. There is no reseeding.
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Re: the wild card position... Poll

Postby SubtropicalPenguin on Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:13 pm

Then what happens if , for example, Pittsburgh wins Boston loses to a team from the Metro? You would be left with 3 teams from the Metro and 1 team from the Atlantic. Does Pittsburgh still play winner of M2 v. M3 rather than wildcard M4? This is absurd.
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Re: the wild card position... Poll

Postby sniper on Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:19 pm

Detroit Plays
Tampa tonight
Boston 4-2
Buffalo 4-4
@ Montreal 4-5
@ Buffalo 4-8
@ Pittsburgh 4-9
Carolina 4-11
@ St. Louis 4-13

Columbus plays
Colorado 4-1
@Philly 4-3
Chicago 4-4
Islanders 4-6
Phoenix 4-8
@ Dallas 4-9
@ Tampa 4-11
@ Florida 4-12

Washington
@ Nashville tonight
Dallas 4-1
@ NJ 4-4
@ NYI 4-5
@ STL 4-8
@ CAR 4-10
Chicago 4-11
Tampa 4-13

I'm not going to bother with Toronto because they haven't won in 9 games and they aren't going to make it. Their odds are 6.5%.
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Re: the wild card position... Poll

Postby Great58 on Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:21 pm

SubtropicalPenguin wrote:Then what happens if , for example, Pittsburgh wins Boston loses to a team from the Metro? You would be left with 3 teams from the Metro and 1 team from the Atlantic. Does Pittsburgh still play winner of M2 v. M3 rather than wildcard M4? This is absurd.

Yes, Pens would play winner of M2/3 in next round, regardless f what happens in the Atlantic.
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