Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

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Re: Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

Postby Troy Loney on Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:30 pm

DudeMan2766 wrote:NHL tweeted out something saying RT if you think Crosby should win the Hart trophy. I just could not help myself I had to look at the replies

Nope
NO
NOPE
YEAH RIGHT!
Most Value P***y maybe
No way
BERGERON!!!
Bergeron should
NO
BERGERON!!!!!!

I don't are how much you hate the guy lol how can you even take yourself seriously if you think there NO WAY he should even be considers.


And those are just the responses from NHL media people.
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Re: Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

Postby meecrofilm on Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:05 pm

:lol:
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Re: Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

Postby penny lane on Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:10 pm

I feel bad for Sid; bad karma ended his MVP chase last year. This year; scoring points isn't enough for
Sid Crosby alone. No, he didn't need to rescue the pens, like claudio of the fly boys, beccause, he led & made sure the pens had post season clinched by Christmas.
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Re: Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

Postby neophool on Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:47 pm

another half season will give the Giroux hypetrain its start. Just like Ovechkin last year, a pathetic first half followed by a "should be playing like this all the time to be an MVP" half will give him strong consideration. The most hilarious reasoning i've heard is that since the team did so poorly when he sucked, that's the "definition of most valuable player"

/barf
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Re: Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

Postby kovyfalcon27 on Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:56 pm

Does anybody really think that Crosby won't win MVP this year?? I mean I guess I understand because of last year, but last year he got hurt and didn't win the scoring title. He's gonna win it this year by probably 20 points. I say he wins MVP almost unanimously.
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Re: Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

Postby sniper on Fri Apr 11, 2014 7:09 pm

kovyfalcon27 wrote:Does anybody really think that Crosby won't win MVP this year?? I mean I guess I understand because of last year, but last year he got hurt and didn't win the scoring title. He's gonna win it this year by probably 20 points. I say he wins MVP almost unanimously.


Yep. It's really not close. Certainly not with Giroux. What possible case does Giroux have? Statistically Crosby is better in every category. His team finished way higher despite far more injuries. The Flyers finished around where people expected them to. Maybe slightly higher. Sure he's the Flyers MVP and he might even get some 2nd or 3rd place votes for league MVP, but there is nothing that puts him above Crosby.

The Flyers got off to a bad start with Giroux on the team. They responded and made the playoffs. Good for them, but why did they start so bad?

Oh and Berube for Jack Adams is a joke too. He took over after 3 games were played. THREE games. He was the coach for a lot of that bad start. Again they finished around where people expected them to. How is that coach of the year quality? I'd trade losing the first three games of the year for the health the Flyers enjoyed this year.
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Re: Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

Postby pens2005 on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:30 am

Crosby is going to win unanimously. It won't even be close.
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Re: Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

Postby Froggy on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:35 am

Yeah, the only reason anyone is talking about someone other than Crosby being in the race is that it's a real boring story to say "yeah, we all agree that Crosby is going to win in a landslide."

I think the ones who are being contentious about this are pretty much just playing devil's advocate.
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Re: Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

Postby Beveridge on Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:52 am

Crosby should win Hart, but I'll say this: Roy not winning Adams would be a bigger ripoff than Crosby not winning Hart.
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Re: Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

Postby Froggy on Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:46 am

I could make a case for probably half a dozen other coaches over Roy, and each one would hold more water than any other player in the league winning over Crosby.

That's not to say Roy doesn't deserve it. Just that there are a lot of good coaches, but only one player had an elite offensive season this year.
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Re: Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

Postby SubtropicalPenguin on Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:09 pm

Antonio wrote:I think be more interesting question is ... does no one in the NHL care that the top scorer will have around 105 points and possibly the next closest will have 90 or less? they need to do something about scoring...goalies with like 940 sv %....


I just took a look back at the historic figures - since the league started playing at least 78 games per season in 1970-71, this is only the second full season where there was only 1 player to get 90+ points. The last such season was the 2003-04 season (the last season before the strike), where St. Louis led the league with 94 points and the next highest was 87 points (Kovulchuk & Sakic).
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Re: Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

Postby Cedar Penn on Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:11 pm

Sid Rules!
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Re: Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

Postby scals37 on Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:10 pm

I can't take the Hart trophy seriously anymore.. the Lester B Pearson (er Ted Lindsay) award doesn't get enough credit AT ALL
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Re: Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

Postby The Snapshot on Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:14 pm

Trying to remember who it was on XM the other day that said they had polled the 16 coaches in the East and every single one said Crosby.
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Re: Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

Postby MRandall25 on Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:15 pm

Bob McKenzie definitely tweeted that last week, IIRC.
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Re: Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

Postby Gaucho on Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:24 pm

Beveridge wrote:Crosby should win Hart, but I'll say this: Roy not winning Adams would be a bigger ripoff than Crosby not winning Hart.


Yes/no.
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Re: Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

Postby rgj on Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:32 am

Crosby will NOT win the MVP simply because he chokes during the playoffs.
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Re: Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

Postby cheesesteakwithegg on Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:35 am

rgj wrote:Crosby will NOT win the MVP simply because he chokes during the playoffs.


Pretty sure voting is done at the end of the regular season.
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Re: Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

Postby skullman80 on Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:27 am

rgj wrote:Crosby will NOT win the MVP simply because he chokes during the playoffs.


Playoffs have nothing to do with MVP voting. MVP voting is done before the playoffs even start.
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Re: Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

Postby slappybrown on Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:34 am

Crosby is now a "playoff choker." Good times.
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Re: Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

Postby columbia on Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:29 am

He hasn't exactly excelled in recent times.
Unless you have an advanced slide rule metric that indicates otherwise.
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Re: Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

Postby slappybrown on Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:39 am

There's a big difference between "playoff choker" and "he hasn't played well enough against BOS and so far this series." The latter is legitimate, the former not at all.
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Re: Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

Postby rgj on Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:59 am

skullman80 wrote:
rgj wrote:Crosby will NOT win the MVP simply because he chokes during the playoffs.


Playoffs have nothing to do with MVP voting. MVP voting is done before the playoffs even start.



I thought of that right after I posted. Rather than delete it....I just decided to leave it up and leave it for the experts. As far as Crosby is concerned, thusfar he is a NON-ISSUE. If you do not want to use the term "choke," OK.

NON-ISSUE, NON-FACTOR, just plain ol' NON would suffice. The 8 million dollar NON.
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Re: Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

Postby Antonio on Sun Apr 20, 2014 5:27 pm

I have to be honest, I think this team is riddled with problems and I have major issues with the performance of many players, including Crosby. However, to be that hard on Crosby is absolutely absurd because as far as I'm concerned he has earned the right to be off a little bit at times. To expect him to single handedly carry the team when the entire team is lazy and apathetic and disinterested is not fair to be honest. he is mortal after all. even 66 couldnt beat ny in 93.
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Re: Crosby's MVP case goes beyond 103 points...

Postby sil on Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:27 am

rgj wrote:The 8 million dollar NON.


He was kind of slowly rebuilt in a laboratory after the concussions...so I guess this works. Can CEC play that slow-motion action sound whenever he swoops in on goal or makes a nice play?
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