Fleury's future

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should we keep Fleury as our starting goalie?

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Fleury's future

Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy on Tue May 13, 2014 10:28 pm

Feel like he deserves his own thread.




Personally, I think we should move on without him.
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Re: Fleury's future

Postby shafnutz05 on Tue May 13, 2014 10:29 pm

I've been a Fleury detractor in the past, but no way. He was workable, if not outstanding, in these playoffs. When our "stars" are choking, what is he supposed to do?

That being said, he was outplayed thoroughly tonight.
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Re: Fleury's future

Postby joe on Tue May 13, 2014 10:33 pm

Fleury was not the reason the pens lost tonight. Henrik did not have to be great tonight. The pens barely had a powerplay and many of their shots he saw easily. That all being said i would let fleury go.
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Re: Fleury's future

Postby orpchar on Tue May 13, 2014 10:39 pm

He has one year left in his contract, I would let him play it out. This isn't a Letang situation where he is eating up a lot more cap space than he is worth.... $5M is the going rate for a starting goaltender, and cheaper than many goalies I would put on a similar level (Bobrovsky, Varlamov, Howard, Ward). It would be different if a goalie-desperate team called with a great offer, but I don't see that happening.
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Re: Fleury's future

Postby Tico Rick on Tue May 13, 2014 10:39 pm

I really feel that Fleury turned the corner this year and that he will be great as a mature, older goaltender.
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Re: Fleury's future

Postby alancac98 on Tue May 13, 2014 10:40 pm

Put a quality defensive team in front of him, like games 3 and 4 and he is great. Field **** on the ice in front of him, likes games 5, and 6 (to some degree 7), and he doesn't look as good. If you would have switched Fluery for Lundquist tonight, the Rangers would have still won!
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Re: Fleury's future

Postby FreeCandy44 on Tue May 13, 2014 10:42 pm

Tico Rick wrote:I really feel that Fleury turned the corner this year and that he will be great as a mature, older goaltender.

Yeah this...im good with Fleury hanging around.
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Re: Fleury's future

Postby Pruezy11881 on Tue May 13, 2014 10:43 pm

The grass isn't always greener. If the Pens let him go, there's a good chance he goes to a team that has defensive structure and puts up Vezina numbers. Pens need a change, but the goalie isn't the issue. He should stay.
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Re: Fleury's future

Postby AlexPKeaton on Tue May 13, 2014 10:46 pm

orpchar wrote:He has one year left in his contract, I would let him play it out. This isn't a Letang situation where he is eating up a lot more cap space than he is worth.... $5M is the going rate for a starting goaltender, and cheaper than many goalies I would put on a similar level (Bobrovsky, Varlamov, Howard, Ward). It would be different if a goalie-desperate team called with a great offer, but I don't see that happening.


I agree with this. There is no need to jump the gun on signing him to an extension. Let him play out his contract and if an upgrade cannot be found, re-sign him for an even cheaper deal.
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Re: Fleury's future

Postby Steve on Tue May 13, 2014 10:46 pm

Who's available to replace MAF? It's tough to answer that poll without knowing.

MAF was solid in the postseason for the most part.
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Re: Fleury's future

Postby Nizzy on Tue May 13, 2014 10:47 pm

Most wins since 2005
Most playoff games played for a goalie since 2005

MAF was amazing in 2008, 2009 when the penguins had a good all around defensive core. He needs a top 10 defense, and he's a solid goalie at a great cap hit.

You give MAF a brand new coach and GM before you let him go. Another serious meltdown under a new coach and get rid of him.

He was great this playoffs. Great. Not Lundqvist great, but still great. Pens let him out to dry in multiple Columbus games.
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Re: Fleury's future

Postby FallenHero96 on Tue May 13, 2014 10:48 pm

I vote yes. Flower is not a bad goalie. This year in net he has redeemed himself from last year. The problem is, the Pens do not have any options right now better than Fleury. He's in by default, at least until Jarry is ready.
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Re: Fleury's future

Postby tfrizz on Tue May 13, 2014 10:48 pm

Steve wrote:Who's available to replace MAF? It's tough to answer that poll without knowing.

MAF was solid in the postseason for the most part.


Well, Halak is likely out of the equation. His agent said he's very interested in signing with the Islanders where he'll be the unconstested #1.

So that leaves Hiller and Miller. Hiller is a lateral move - you won't get anything more out of him than you'd get out of Fleury. Miller will come at an added cost, and may not even be interested as he reportedly wants to head to California.
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Re: Fleury's future

Postby JarkkoVision on Tue May 13, 2014 10:50 pm

He played solid as hell and gets a thread like this?
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Re: Fleury's future

Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy on Tue May 13, 2014 10:50 pm

Tico Rick wrote:I really feel that Fleury turned the corner this year and that he will be great as a mature, older goaltender.


He's one year and two years removed from the most hilarious goalie performances ever and played very inconsistently this postseason. 2 shutouts, yeah, but also the terrible CBJ games. He's also only won 2 series in 5 years. Not particularly encouraging.
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Re: Fleury's future

Postby DropEmJayBird on Tue May 13, 2014 10:51 pm

Where are these goalies that shine behind crappy defense and are available?
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Re: Fleury's future

Postby shmenguin on Tue May 13, 2014 10:53 pm

he's average. he can steal a game or he can let weak backhands under his armpit because he doesn't fill the net like less athletic marshmallow men don't do.

i could take him or leave him at this point.
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Re: Fleury's future

Postby DropEmJayBird on Tue May 13, 2014 10:53 pm

JarkkoVision wrote:He played solid as hell and gets a thread like this?

People are jokes, same few names as well. I'd bet the same ones who vote in the low low minority in this poll. Just stirring the pot of pens fans, that's all
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Re: Fleury's future

Postby knives of ice on Tue May 13, 2014 10:53 pm

it really all depends on how much faith they have in Jarry who has been unreal in the playoffs in jrs this year and how soon they think he will be ready.
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Re: Fleury's future

Postby Lt. Dish on Tue May 13, 2014 10:54 pm

I'm a huge, card-carrying Flower fan and I'd be devastated if he were to leave the organization.

Like Tico, I think he's turned the corner from goofy kid to been-there-done-that (good, bad, and ugly) veteran.
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Re: Fleury's future

Postby nocera on Tue May 13, 2014 10:54 pm

The Penguins lost maybe 2 games due to Fleury this postseason. He was not a concern.
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Re: Fleury's future

Postby mac5155 on Tue May 13, 2014 10:55 pm

YEAH WELL FLEURY IS MY HOMEBOY!
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Re: Fleury's future

Postby AlexPKeaton on Tue May 13, 2014 10:56 pm

He is simply an average NHL starting goaltender. I think the goal of the GM should be to acquire an above average NHL goaltender if possible, but if the only options are worse goaltenders, you have to live with average I suppose.
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Re: Fleury's future

Postby Lt. Dish on Tue May 13, 2014 10:56 pm

nocera wrote:The Penguins lost maybe 2 games due to Fleury this postseason. He was not a concern.


Right. He didn't need to be great. And after any lapses (which were few) he quickly got his act together and gave the team a chance to win every night.

He was good enough to win tonight and got crapped on by the team in front of him.
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Re: Fleury's future

Postby sniper on Tue May 13, 2014 10:56 pm

Fleury isn't the reason they lost this series, but he isn't exactly performing better than an average goalie. He has the talent to do so, but is too inconsistent. I'd consider trading him and using the cap space elsewhere depending on what average goalie is available in FA.
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