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You Have to Wonder

Postby JarkkoVision on Tue May 13, 2014 11:08 pm

Was Crosby playing hurt? Was his play based on the fact that he wants changes made? An elite player of his caliber shouldn't be playing with a Brian Gibbons on his line. Not taking anything away from Gibbons. There's more to it than Crosby just didn't show up.
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Re: You Have to Wonder

Postby mac5155 on Tue May 13, 2014 11:11 pm

Jarkko <3s making threads
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Re: You Have to Wonder

Postby JarkkoVision on Tue May 13, 2014 11:20 pm

Someone had to do it with all the captain bashing going on.

Also, I've made four threads this season.
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Re: You Have to Wonder

Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy on Tue May 13, 2014 11:22 pm

JarkkoVision wrote:Someone had to do it with all the captain bashing going on.

Also, I've made four threads this season.


He says, threadmakingly.

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Re: You Have to Wonder

Postby shafnutz05 on Tue May 13, 2014 11:24 pm

This thread sucks because Crosby wasn't hurt. He sucked
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Re: You Have to Wonder

Postby shmenguin on Tue May 13, 2014 11:25 pm

Being hurt doesn't account for his decision making when he had time and space.

He was a junk yard this playoffs. Hurt or not.
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Re: You Have to Wonder

Postby mac5155 on Tue May 13, 2014 11:39 pm

You gotta wonder though when Shero goes out and gets stempniak buy could have had Vanek for a similar price tag or St Louis for a little bit more
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Re: You Have to Wonder

Postby mikey287 on Tue May 13, 2014 11:42 pm

He could have? How does one figure this?
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Re: You Have to Wonder

Postby Desiato on Tue May 13, 2014 11:47 pm

Sid wasn't anywhere close to 100%. I'm glad he's not making excuses. But the fact is his skating was poor through the entire playoffs.

Against elite talent in the Olympics, Crosby was a two-way takeaway machine. He used this speed to force a lot of opposition errors. His playoff skating did not come close to that level. For one or two games he may have been at about 75%.

I am focusing on skating because it's basic. There aren't really any other explanations for it other than injury or fatigue.

Even if his attitude was bad the entire time, we'd have seen better skating than that. When Sid's attitude was bad against the Bruins last year, we saw better skating than that. When he was shutdown by the Bruins, he remained physical, crashed the net and skated hard.

This wasn't simply Sid being contained. He played completely different than normal.
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Re: You Have to Wonder

Postby FallenHero96 on Tue May 13, 2014 11:52 pm

mac5155 wrote:You gotta wonder though when Shero goes out and gets stempniak buy could have had Vanek for a similar price tag or St Louis for a little bit more


Yeah those are total assumptions on your part. And everyone knows St. Louis only wanted to go to NY.
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Re: You Have to Wonder

Postby mikey287 on Wed May 14, 2014 12:10 am

Yeah, I'm not really sure what to make of that post...I'm not sure what it's based on...
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Re: You Have to Wonder

Postby Scott on Wed May 14, 2014 12:16 am

mac5155 wrote:Jarkko <3s making threads


Not nearly as much as mac likes padding his post count. :wink:
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Re: You Have to Wonder

Postby neophool on Wed May 14, 2014 12:44 am

Sid was NOT healthy. It was obvious in his skating mechanics. Actually, it was obvious if you look at his first 3 steps and speed. Yeah, he made terrible passes, but you know what - he does that. Its just that combined with lackluster defense, poor "compete level" (that was a direct result of his injury) and inability to finish, or set up finishing plays made him look like a bum.

Yeah yeah yeah, he said he was healthy in the post game presser. He was not healthy. Maybe groin, hip, or possibly ribs. I'm ruling out concussion because if he played through a concussion (could have easily gotten one with all the abuse he took) then he just ruined his career for a 2nd round exit against the Rangers.
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Re: You Have to Wonder

Postby bdevido on Wed May 14, 2014 12:48 am

the real truth is crosby hasn't show up this year, or last. keep making excuses he was beyond pathetic dating back to the boston series. was he hurt then too? nope.
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Re: You Have to Wonder

Postby Crankshaft on Wed May 14, 2014 12:54 am

bdevido wrote:the real truth is crosby hasn't show up this year, or last. keep making excuses he was beyond pathetic dating back to the boston series. was he hurt then too? nope.


You are the king of truth!
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Re: You Have to Wonder

Postby ulf on Wed May 14, 2014 8:46 am

bdevido wrote:the real truth is crosby hasn't show up this year, or last. keep making excuses he was beyond pathetic dating back to the boston series. was he hurt then too? nope.

Umm he is the Hart favorite, right?
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Re: You Have to Wonder

Postby Gaucho on Wed May 14, 2014 8:48 am

What you really have to wonder is how many people got banned last night. Maybe none, I don't know.
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Re: You Have to Wonder

Postby Crankshaft on Wed May 14, 2014 8:50 am

Gaucho wrote:What you really have to wonder is how many people got banned last night. Maybe none, I don't know.


Look at what it took for EPP to get banned. I don't think anyone went THAT crazy, last night.
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Re: You Have to Wonder

Postby SpinnerSpencer on Wed May 14, 2014 8:52 am

bdevido wrote:the real truth is crosby hasn't show up this year, or last. keep making excuses he was beyond pathetic dating back to the boston series. was he hurt then too? nope.


I guess you don't consider a broken jaw being hurt? Not making excuses, but he was injured.
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Re: You Have to Wonder

Postby Gaucho on Wed May 14, 2014 8:53 am

Crankshaft wrote:
Gaucho wrote:What you really have to wonder is how many people got banned last night. Maybe none, I don't know.


Look at what it took for EPP to get banned. I don't think anyone went THAT crazy, last night.


Possibly. I didn't notice anyone going more overboard than usual.
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Re: You Have to Wonder

Postby count2infinity on Wed May 14, 2014 8:54 am

Jarkko, head over to NHR. You're appreciated more over there than these guys here in PR.
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Re: You Have to Wonder

Postby columbia on Wed May 14, 2014 8:55 am

I have to wonder how he kept his job after last year.
I accepted that - and what choice did I have? - and tried to see the situation in the best light. Mustache Boy lost me for good sometime back in February. Please get rid of him, ASAP.
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Re: You Have to Wonder

Postby Jim on Wed May 14, 2014 10:26 am

Gaucho wrote:What you really have to wonder is how many people got banned last night. Maybe none, I don't know.


Why would anyone have gotten banned?
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Re: You Have to Wonder

Postby Jim on Wed May 14, 2014 10:27 am

We are the San Jose Sharks of the East... great during the regular season, not a real threat in the playoffs.
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Re: You Have to Wonder

Postby Desiato on Thu May 15, 2014 10:55 pm

Jim wrote:We are the San Jose Sharks of the East... great during the regular season, not a real threat in the playoffs.

Except for the fact this Pens core has two eastern titles and a cup. And what makes the Sharks the Sharks is not having those things.

I'm sorry everyone. I'll stop. This revisionist history is driving me crazy and I'm probably driving everyone else crazy in the process.

But come on. A lot of you guys aren't even trying to be reasonable. Most of this is just ugly indulgence.
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