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Here's a trade idea that would really shake things up...

Postby The Current One on Sat May 17, 2014 6:02 am

To Montreal: Sid & Fleury

To Pittsburgh: Subban, Price, Pacioretty, Gallagher or Galchenyuk, 1st rounder. Or, take out Pacioretty and add another 1st rounder.
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Re: Here's a trade idea that would really shake things up...

Postby ville5 on Sat May 17, 2014 7:11 am

Neal and Letang and HCDB for Eberle, Oscar jagrbomb and a 1st..
We'll throw in both Steigys if we have to.
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Re: Here's a trade idea that would really shake things up...

Postby joe on Sat May 17, 2014 7:23 am

You really think montreal would even think about that trade...nope.
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Re: Here's a trade idea that would really shake things up...

Postby pens_CT on Sat May 17, 2014 7:43 am

Keep it simple, just trade the Montreal roster for the Pittsburgh roster.
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Re: Here's a trade idea that would really shake things up...

Postby RxBandit66 on Sat May 17, 2014 8:05 am

A trade of one high priced player, along with sending Scuderi and his big contract to WBS (assuming they aren't able to trade him for a bucket of pucks) will alleviate a lot of the cap problems. Letang, Fleury, or Neal would be the logical candidates...and it would, as you say, shake things up. Wouldn't trade Neal or MAF because who is going to replace them? If you want an improvement over those two, you'll pay a WHOLE lot more.

Personally, I'd move Letang, for a young winger and a pick. Then, draft a winger in the first round. Use the Letang money to re-sign NIskanen, and the Scuderi money to sign a good bottom 6 guy. They simply don't need Letang. He is constantly injured, and there is no continuity or consistency to his game.
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Re: Here's a trade idea that would really shake things up...

Postby Pavel Bure on Sat May 17, 2014 8:43 am

Can't bury Scud's contract in the minors. Wade Redden rule.
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Re: Here's a trade idea that would really shake things up...

Postby Factorial on Sat May 17, 2014 8:52 am

If they are intent on getting rid of Scuderi they could probably find a taker by eating half his salary. The Isles would probably take him.
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Re: Here's a trade idea that would really shake things up...

Postby RxBandit66 on Sat May 17, 2014 9:07 am

Factorial wrote:If they are intent on getting rid of Scuderi they could probably find a taker by eating half his salary. The Isles would probably take him.


Are there any teams that need a veteran D that are below the cap floor? This may be the only scenario where they can get out of that contract, unless he gets injured and goes on LTIR. I totally forgot about that Wade Redden rule. Guess it would apply there.
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Re: Here's a trade idea that would really shake things up...

Postby columbia on Sat May 17, 2014 9:09 am

He'll be fine on a team that plays defense.
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Re: Here's a trade idea that would really shake things up...

Postby Kovy27 on Sat May 17, 2014 9:14 am

The Current One wrote:To Montreal: Sid & Fleury

To Pittsburgh: Subban, Price, Pacioretty, Gallagher or Galchenyuk, 1st rounder. Or, take out Pacioretty and add another 1st rounder.


The chances of Montreal doing that trade:

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Re: Here's a trade idea that would really shake things up...

Postby farnham16 on Sat May 17, 2014 9:46 am

It might be possible to trade Scuderi. Look how awful Michalek was for us his last season here, yet Shero was able to move him.

Scuderi might be able to play okay somewhere else. You might only be able to get him for a 6th or 7th round pick, but that would be worth it.
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Re: Here's a trade idea that would really shake things up...

Postby count2infinity on Sat May 17, 2014 9:52 am

Trade with Carolina to get both Staals... :slug:
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Re: Here's a trade idea that would really shake things up...

Postby DelPen on Sat May 17, 2014 9:54 am

Nisky and Scuds would be a fine 2nd pairing for the Islanders
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Re: Here's a trade idea that would really shake things up...

Postby jwest21 on Sat May 17, 2014 10:11 am

pens_CT wrote:Keep it simple, just trade the Montreal roster for the Pittsburgh roster.

but do it right now so we can play in the ECF
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Re: Here's a trade idea that would really shake things up...

Postby blurryhaze312 on Sat May 17, 2014 10:22 am

farnham16 wrote:It might be possible to trade Scuderi. Look how awful Michalek was for us his last season here, yet Shero was able to move him.

Scuderi might be able to play okay somewhere else. You might only be able to get him for a 6th or 7th round pick, but that would be worth it.


I'm not saying that it's impossible, but you forget Z was going back to the team that he came from before his stint with the Pens. It's not going to be so easy this time, I'd think.
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Postby Malkamaniac on Sat May 17, 2014 10:26 am

I think you'll be able to trade Scuds based on people knowing the Pens system is about speed. A team like Florida would value Scuderi's "leadership."
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Re: Here's a trade idea that would really shake things up...

Postby DontToewsMeBro on Sat May 17, 2014 10:51 am

Someone would take Scuderi. Someone would take Letang. Freeing up that much cap space would be ideal.
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Re: Here's a trade idea that would really shake things up...

Postby puckeye on Sat May 17, 2014 10:57 am

Malkin for Shea Weber
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Re: Here's a trade idea that would really shake things up...

Postby Malkamaniac on Sat May 17, 2014 11:00 am

puckeye wrote:Malkin for Shea Weber


Letang for Shea Weber.
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Re: Here's a trade idea that would really shake things up...

Postby Hugo Stiglitz on Sat May 17, 2014 11:11 am

I know most of this is in gest, but I'm not opposed to trading Sid for the right trade. I think Maklin is the real deal.
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Re: Here's a trade idea that would really shake things up...

Postby Hugo Stiglitz on Sat May 17, 2014 11:17 am

TO WPG: Sid, Neal, Letang and Sutter's rights

TO PIT: Little, Ladd, Kane, Stuart and their next two first round picks

DO IT RA...oh wait
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Re: Here's a trade idea that would really shake things up...

Postby Chirpin' Grinder on Sat May 17, 2014 11:22 am

RxBandit66 wrote:A trade of one high priced player, along with sending Scuderi and his big contract to WBS (assuming they aren't able to trade him for a bucket of pucks) will alleviate a lot of the cap problems. Letang, Fleury, or Neal would be the logical candidates...and it would, as you say, shake things up. Wouldn't trade Neal or MAF because who is going to replace them? If you want an improvement over those two, you'll pay a WHOLE lot more.

Personally, I'd move Letang, for a young winger and a pick. Then, draft a winger in the first round. Use the Letang money to re-sign NIskanen, and the Scuderi money to sign a good bottom 6 guy. They simply don't need Letang. He is constantly injured, and there is no continuity or consistency to his game.


I'm pretty sure that sending Scuderi to the minors would bring less than $1m in cap relief, or basically the cost of replacing him. I think it is possible to move him, perhaps to a younger team that needs some veterans with rings or to a team looking to dump a bad contract of a useable forward.

I want to see Letang, Fleury and Neal with a real coach. I think each will outperform his cap hit next year.

The guy to move is Paul Martin. Not because he sucks, but because he is possibly at peak value right now. Sell high. He only has one year left, but to team like Dallas or Colorado, he would be extremely enticing.

Martin and Scuderi for Antoine Rousel, Alex Chiasson and Shawn Horcoff (salary dump).

Dallas gets a top pairing guy and perhaps Scuderi plays better out west. They unload Horcoff's salary, which i believe has a year left.

Pens get size and grit and scoring potential. Shifting Scuderi's bad money into a useful forward helps balance things out somewhat. Horcoff was actually quite good during Dallas' short post-season.
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Re: Here's a trade idea that would really shake things up...

Postby Chirpin' Grinder on Sat May 17, 2014 11:59 am

Hugo Stiglitz wrote:I know most of this is in gest, but I'm not opposed to trading Sid for the right trade. I think Maklin is the real deal.


:thumb: :thumb:

I think Sid quit in the Rangers series. He didn't want the puck. He didn't want to win. He just wanted it to end.

We still don't know why exactly but I am not sure it matters. He wasn't injured, that much we know. This needs to be examined in greater detail.

Won't happen, but I wouldn't be opposed. The team could be improved and win a cup with the right deal, much as Edmonton did post-Gretzky.

But where do you start with return? The cap really limits the possibilities and basically mandates any deal be substantially future oriented. I mean, you can't really take on more salary and Sid's cap hit is a great value.

Not opposed in principle but it would tough to see how you win the deal.

The Staal brothers and Elias Lindholm and some combination of picks and/or prospects for Sid and Scuderi could work cap wise and would make the Pens a better team next season.

Trading Sid, that is one way to dump Scuderi :lol:
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Re: Here's a trade idea that would really shake things up...

Postby Gaucho on Sat May 17, 2014 12:08 pm

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Re: Here's a trade idea that would really shake things up...

Postby Hugo Stiglitz on Sat May 17, 2014 1:45 pm

A friend of a friend put together a clever little stat of Sid in the playoffs:
2008 vs. Detroit: 1 goal
2009 vs Detroit: 2 goal
2010 vs. Montreal: 1 goal
2012 vs. Philly: 3 goals
2013 vs. Boston: 0 goals
2014 1 goal in 13 games.
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