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Who are the Penguins you would keep?

Postby Scott on Tue May 27, 2014 3:58 pm

Forget the contract talk. Let's just say the Pens could trim the fat of anyone and everyone they chose. Or a new GM is magical working trades and such with the current cba and contracts....

Who from the current Penguin roster would you consider must have?

My players in no certain order
Crosby
Malkin
Maatta
Bortuzzo where is his ceiling?
Despres see above!
Letang
Gibbons- need to see more time with him injury free..too much speed to dismiss
Sutter (earned another year with his play late and playoffs)

two wild cards
Fluery -what would people say about him if he played behind a collective clogging system i.e. Boston Bruins
Vitale- Hard for me to let anyone with so much speed go...I would keep him if guaranteed he was used right

Outside of these players and possible wildcards IMO they can swap any of the other Penguins with other NHL players and get similar results minimum
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Re: Who are the Penguins you would keep?

Postby Mango Salsa on Tue May 27, 2014 4:01 pm

Id add Paul Martin & Matt Niskanen to your list
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Re: Who are the Penguins you would keep?

Postby DelPen on Tue May 27, 2014 4:03 pm

Must keep:
Crosby
Malkin
Maatta

Should really keep unless something too good comes along:
Martin
Sutter
Pouliot
Harrington

Everyone else is fair game if the team can be made better.
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Re: Who are the Penguins you would keep?

Postby Dr Rosenrosen on Tue May 27, 2014 4:15 pm

Anyone but Neal.
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Re: Who are the Penguins you would keep?

Postby lemieuxReturns on Tue May 27, 2014 4:17 pm

For me, i keep Sid and Geno.

Everyone else is fair game if it makes sense.
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Re: Who are the Penguins you would keep?

Postby Hugo Stiglitz on Tue May 27, 2014 4:19 pm

I'm only including roster players as well as Pens to re-sign

Keep:
Malkin
Martin
Maatta
Dupuis
Fleury

Players I'd re-sign:
Stempniak
Goc
Niskanen

Everyone else can go...and yes, I did leave someone off that list that I'll get flamed for.
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Re: Who are the Penguins you would keep?

Postby thehockeyguru on Tue May 27, 2014 4:23 pm

I'd be happy if they could get a nice return for Neal and unload Scuderi for anything.
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Re: Who are the Penguins you would keep?

Postby Beveridge on Tue May 27, 2014 4:23 pm

Hugo Stiglitz wrote:I'm only including roster players as well as Pens to re-sign

Keep:
Malkin
Martin
Maatta
Dupuis
Fleury

Players I'd re-sign:
Stempniak
Goc
Niskanen

Everyone else can go...and yes, I did leave someone off that list that I'll get flamed for.


You should for leaving Craig Adams off the Keep list. Sacrilegious.
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Re: Who are the Penguins you would keep?

Postby Pitt87 on Tue May 27, 2014 4:32 pm

DelPen wrote:Must keep:
Crosby
Malkin
Maatta

Should really keep unless something too good comes along:
Martin
Sutter
Pouliot
Harrington

Everyone else is fair game if the team can be made better.


This, but I still think you have to keep Flower if you can't replace him for good. He had his moments in these playoffs, but he was good enough to win just about every night.
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Re: Who are the Penguins you would keep?

Postby Bioshock on Tue May 27, 2014 4:35 pm

DelPen wrote:Must keep:
Crosby
Malkin
Maatta

Should really keep unless something too good comes along:
Martin
Sutter
Pouliot
Harrington

Everyone else is fair game if the team can be made better.



This guy knows what's up.
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Re: Who are the Penguins you would keep?

Postby SolidSnake on Tue May 27, 2014 6:10 pm

Must keep:
Crosby
Malkin
Spezza
Martin
Maatta

Everyone else is open game
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Re: Who are the Penguins you would keep?

Postby brwi on Tue May 27, 2014 6:53 pm

Like any other enterprise, everything is always up for sale at the "right" price. You want to buy Berkshire-Hathaway? Buffet will sell it to you.....if you have about a few trillion.

I'll break it down this way:

NO WAY THEY ARE GOING ELSEWHERE:
Sid
Malkin
Maata-price would be too high to move
Kunitz- what are you going to get for him in trade at this point of his career/age? his contract is pretty good, even though he can suck in the playoffs.
Martin-they need a steady veteran with an influx of young D coming in and Orpik is probably gone anyway.
Scuderi- contract, his trade clause.....he's back, and it might not be the worst thing either
Dupuis- he'll be around as long as he's breathing and should be with this roster right now.

COULD BE MOVING ON:
Neal- undisciplined, streaky and can only play with Malkin and be successful. So one-dimensional but with such sweet regular season stats that someone may bite.
Letang- but only if they 100% commit to Nisknanen and have to pay him an inflated price. If you see Niskanen signed, I think the trade mill will really heat up on Letang.
Jokinen- very streaky and may not be worth as much in the FA market as has been speculated, but I think it's 50/50 the Pens really want him back that badly either
Niskanen- dman GET PAID in UFA and if he tests the market, going to be very difficult for the Pens to keep him, unless they are thinking the slightest bit about trading Letang.
Sutter- if the rumors are true, and they sure have been widely-reported, he was close to going for Kesler in a package deal that looked sucky for the Pens, IMO. Think maybe his playoff performance might have either changed minds or elevated his tradeability, though he's also pretty streaky. Still, like to see him back myself.

THE REST:
Adams - has another year left at next to nothing and could easily be moved for a draft pick. If DB is canned, Adams is likely gone too
Stempniak- I see a chance he gets re-signed if he and the Pens can come to decent terms like 3mil/yr or less
Goc- think he's gone and probably to the Capitals
Vitale - see Goc, except don't know where he'll end up
Glass- likely stays, under contract also
Gibbons- think he's back on the 4th line
Bennett- no trade value and Pens stuck with him and hoping for injury-free and progress
Orpik- thanks for years of service and highlights and good luck elsewhere
Engelland- bet he returns, cheap contract helps
Bortuzzo- stays

THE ROOKIES:
Going to leave them out because any of them would likely be involved in a package trade and the key ones aren't affected by RFA/waivers at this point.

GOALIES:
MAF- Staying. who are you going to get that is an upgrade at the same price without taking a big, immediate risk? The answer is sure as hell not Ryan Miller.
Zatkoff- staying
Vokoun- contract is over and so is probably his career. I hope he can enjoy retirement and sleep peacefully without nightmares of all the shots and great chances he faced in Florida. Another guy I say thanks for your service, especially in last year's playoffs. Wish this guy had played behind better teams throughout his career because he was damn good.
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Re: Who are the Penguins you would keep?

Postby shafnutz05 on Tue May 27, 2014 7:52 pm

I don't think Crosby is going anywhere, but I just have this really weird feeling that selling him high (and yes, he is still high) would be a good move.
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Re: Who are the Penguins you would keep?

Postby columbia on Tue May 27, 2014 7:55 pm

shafnutz05 wrote:I don't think Crosby is going anywhere, but I just have this really weird feeling that selling him high (and yes, he is still high) would be a good move.


That is possible.

Either way, I feel like it will be 3 more years before the mondo contracts aren't crippling the team.
Hopefully that won't be too late.
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Re: Who are the Penguins you would keep?

Postby Antonio on Tue May 27, 2014 7:57 pm

Interesting. The problem with this is that some of the players I would or wouldn't keep would depend on who I can get in their place. I mean, if I knew I was getting player X for player Y, then I might say get rid of them. That being said...

I would keep for sure...
Crosby
Malkin
Maatta
Despres
Bortuzzo
Niskanen
Fleury (can't believe I am saying this after wanting him dead last year but that's how it goes...)
Bennett
Martin

Players I would keep depending on replacement choices...
Neal
Kunitz
Sutter
Stempniak
Jokinen
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Re: Who are the Penguins you would keep?

Postby mikey287 on Tue May 27, 2014 8:02 pm

Weird how Bortuzzo is appearing on a few of these must keep lists...he went from "launch directly into the sun" to "well, hopefully we can get a 5th for him" but no further...he stinks...

Sutter, our best player in the playoffs, and another overlooked mule (like the guy whose spot he took) gets questionable reviews...

Inflammable means flammable...?!!? What a country...
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Re: Who are the Penguins you would keep?

Postby She'sTheFastest on Tue May 27, 2014 8:33 pm

Malkin, Evgeni; that is all.
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Re: Who are the Penguins you would keep?

Postby She'sTheFastest on Tue May 27, 2014 8:34 pm

I wouldn't necessarily replace anyone either. This will be a Malkin only team. :pop:
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Re: Who are the Penguins you would keep?

Postby Hugo Stiglitz on Tue May 27, 2014 8:51 pm

shafnutz05 wrote:I don't think Crosby is going anywhere, but I just have this really weird feeling that selling him high (and yes, he is still high) would be a good move.


The only way the Pens trade Sid is if he openly requests a trade
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Re: Who are the Penguins you would keep?

Postby shafnutz05 on Tue May 27, 2014 9:38 pm

Hugo Stiglitz wrote:
shafnutz05 wrote:I don't think Crosby is going anywhere, but I just have this really weird feeling that selling him high (and yes, he is still high) would be a good move.


The only way the Pens trade Sid is if he openly requests a trade


Of course, just don't have a good feeling moving forward.
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Re: Who are the Penguins you would keep?

Postby America on Wed May 28, 2014 12:36 am

Gimmie some of those drugs you're doing if you think Sid will get moved or request a trade
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Re: Who are the Penguins you would keep?

Postby Kaizer on Wed May 28, 2014 12:47 am

Sidakarovsky
Geno
Maata
Kunitz. Yep
Niskanen
Martin
Fleury
Strutter
Vitale probably
Dupuis
Bylsma
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Re: Who are the Penguins you would keep?

Postby RxBandit66 on Wed May 28, 2014 6:10 am

If they can move Letang, then let Martin go next season after his contract runs out, that will be the key to them being able to afford the other big contracts moving forward. With all the young defensemen they have, that would be the way to go.

I'd hire Jacques Martin, bring in Tocchet as an assistant, and implement a defensive system. Bring Bortuzzo and Despres along this season, Pouliot and Harrington next season, keep Maatta and Niskanen for the long haul.
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Re: Who are the Penguins you would keep?

Postby DocEmrick on Wed May 28, 2014 6:31 am

Keep:

Adams
Neal
Gibbons
Vitale

Trade:

Crosby for Toews, Kane, Hossa, Saad
Malkin for Kopitar, Brown, Gaborik, Carter
Letang for Doghty, Regehr
All of our worthless D Prospects for Keith, Brookbank, Seabrook
Fleury for Kolzig

Sign:

Niskanen, then trade him for Dion Phaneuf

Kane - Toews - Hossa
Gaborik - Kopitar - Saad
Carter - Richards - Brown
Vitale - Adams - Godard/Rupp

Keith - Dooty
Seabrook - Regehr
Brookbank - Maata

All players will take the hometown discount for a chance to play with - oh wait
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Re: Who are the Penguins you would keep?

Postby columbia on Wed May 28, 2014 6:32 am

You had me until the Rupp signing.
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