thehockeyguru wrote:It isnt much different than NYC, Boston, Chicago? I think its night and day. There is what 1 small grocery store downtown? I remember reading that you need 12,000 residents to support a large grocery store, in the golden triangle you have around 4,000. Until you put in affordable housing you arent going to get the numbers to build the necessities.
I agree that there isnt any place to put the amount of units needed to cause the transformation needed. One of the problems are areas like the Hill, the Crawford Apartments above the Mellon Arena site are nice places. But people are hesitant to live there because they dont want to get mugged or have their car broken into. This is why I dont like the Hill making demands, the Penguins should be demanding from Hill leadership that they worry about cleaning up their neighborhood. Since the Consol has been built what has changed with regards to crime / the hill?
No I am saying it is not much different than any otter cities except NYC, Boston or Chicago. Those are the only ones with really vibrant downtown areas.
Most cities are set up more like Pittsburgh with areas close to the city where people live. Not these vibrant walking and living metropolitans.
I think people to need to realize its never going to happen for Pittsburgh. There isnt any spots downtown to build living spaces, there is will always be a small supply (therefore driving up prices).
Also, people in the same time want a more vibrant area but complain its too expensive. But living in downtowns in any city, especially the vibrant ones are always expensive.
Now I think where Pittsburgh lacks is building up the areas close to the city. They have really failed to revitalize those and badly.