At this point our biggest need?

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What do we need the most

bottom 6 depth forward
16
13%
top 6 winger
52
43%
a defensive defenseman
11
9%
an offensive defenseman
0
No votes
a "leader type"
13
11%
a new starting goalie.
2
2%
Our team looks good now
5
4%
our team will due till the trading deadline.
18
15%
Other
5
4%
 
Total votes : 122

Re: At this point our biggest need?

Postby no name on Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:27 pm

I think with the top 6 winger winning out on the poll i think its right on. Weather people take into the concideration the drop effect it has with all the other forwards. Your bottom 6 gets stronger when Dupuis falls there, or if you choose to put Bennette on the 3rd line. Add in a true top 6 it strenghtens your bottom 6. Sign a Stempniak and he is a versital forward who can give you top line minutes and can also drop onto the 3rd line if need be.

Also holding down a lead you might want Duper on a top line to play a defensive concious roll.
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Re: At this point our biggest need?

Postby mikey287 on Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:32 pm

Weather people are rarely correct though... :slug:
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Re: At this point our biggest need?

Postby Jim on Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:47 pm

mikey287 wrote:Weather people are rarely correct though... :slug:


I am actually laughing...
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Re: At this point our biggest need?

Postby no name on Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:04 pm

Cut me a break guys English is my second language. Nuff said.
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Re: At this point our biggest need?

Postby columbia on Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:08 pm

no name wrote:Cut me a break guys English is my second language. Nuff said.


What's your first?
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Re: At this point our biggest need?

Postby Jim on Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:09 pm

columbia wrote:
no name wrote:Cut me a break guys English is my second language. Nuff said.


What's your first?


Pittsburghese :)
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Re: At this point our biggest need?

Postby mikey287 on Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:19 pm

no name wrote:Cut me a break guys English is my second language. Nuff said.


Sorry, I had no idea. I was just goofin'...
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Re: At this point our biggest need?

Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy on Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:01 pm

Jim wrote:
mikey287 wrote:Weather people are rarely correct though... :slug:


I am actually laughing...


Opposed to fictitiously laughing
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Re: At this point our biggest need?

Postby Jim on Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:40 am

MalkinIsMyHomeboy wrote:
Jim wrote:
mikey287 wrote:Weather people are rarely correct though... :slug:


I am actually laughing...


Opposed to fictitiously laughing


As opposed to someone just saying "lol" but not actually sitting there laughing out loud.
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Re: At this point our biggest need?

Postby rgj on Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:50 am

I voted for "other."

Methinks we need a new arena. There's space across the street from CEC.
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Re: At this point our biggest need?

Postby Beveridge on Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:48 am

rgj wrote:I voted for "other."

Methinks we need a new arena. There's space across the street from CEC.


This brings up an interesting argument for letting that lot sit. They can build the next arena in 25 years there!
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Re: At this point our biggest need?

Postby topshelf66 on Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:15 pm

I need a miracle..... everyday!

And a top 6 winger.
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Re: At this point our biggest need?

Postby Sams_Dog on Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:24 pm

“It’s a situation where they wanted there to be some change — not just in the way that we play, but culturally and in how things went on,” Hynes said. “It was a real thorough process. I think those are the biggest things." This is a polite, PC way of saying "We have leadership and locker room issues. Several people have said it and it is why they hired Guerin and Tocchet. I would be willing to bet that the off ice issues are a good deal worse than people think. This is not good. Culture = work ethic and attitude. Cohesiveness = cliques in the locker room and poor communication amongst the players. That is the job of the captain and the assistant captains, the vets. The fact that Mario and Burkle had to address this is not good. SUre, Bylsma had some responsibility too but it seems like he was tuned out. This worries me.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/peng ... 1407170199
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Re: At this point our biggest need?

Postby GeoTank on Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:30 pm

Sams_Dog wrote:“It’s a situation where they wanted there to be some change — not just in the way that we play, but culturally and in how things went on,” Hynes said. “It was a real thorough process. I think those are the biggest things." This is a polite, PC way of saying "We have leadership and locker room issues. Several people have said it and it is why they hired Guerin and Tocchet. I would be willing to bet that the off ice issues are a good deal worse than people think. This is not good. Culture = work ethic and attitude. Cohesiveness = cliques in the locker room and poor communication amongst the players. That is the job of the captain and the assistant captains, the vets. The fact that Mario and Burkle had to address this is not good. SUre, Bylsma had some responsibility too but it seems like he was tuned out. This worries me.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/peng ... 1407170199



Wow i saw the start of the third quote and couldn't stop reading.... i couldn't believe Hynes would say all that. then i read to see what else he said and now realize that is your thoughts not his. please be more careful with your " " some might not read the artical and next week are quoting Hynes saying "the off ice issues are a good deal worse than people think."...... which isn't the case.

Nice quick read though, thanks for the link
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Re: At this point our biggest need?

Postby iceolater on Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:35 am

Freeing up some Cap space somehow, some way. I feel confident with our D and what we have upcoming to help improve this team. As far as Wingers, we still need a top notch winger to play with Sid or Geno. Also, I still would like more "Toughness" added to this team. Downie is not afraid to get his nose dirty and challenge others, but I am talking about someone bigger and can send a message if need be. Like a Bissonette. Would rather see him on the 4th line than Adams, especially with Duper coming back and Goc who can help out in the short handed scenerio.
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Re: At this point our biggest need?

Postby DelPen on Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:46 am

The culture strats with Shero and ends with Bylsma for the most part. The players whe are still here from when Therrien was coach and drafted by Patrick played fine without the country cliub mentality or whatever we say this team devolve too in the last few seasons.

This season is big to see of the core can right the ship again.
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Re: At this point our biggest need?

Postby Malkamaniac on Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:56 am

DelPen wrote:The culture strats with Shero and ends with Bylsma for the most part. The players whe are still here from when Therrien was coach and drafted by Patrick played fine without the country cliub mentality or whatever we say this team devolve too in the last few seasons.

This season is big to see of the core can right the ship again.


Fired GM/Coach/released UFA vets. If the ship isn't righted, the Core is the thing that gets changed next.
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Re: At this point our biggest need?

Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy on Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:32 am

Who is 'the core'? Is it similar to 'the clique'?
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Re: At this point our biggest need?

Postby wondermoose on Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:16 pm

Malkamaniac wrote:
DelPen wrote:The culture strats with Shero and ends with Bylsma for the most part. The players whe are still here from when Therrien was coach and drafted by Patrick played fine without the country cliub mentality or whatever we say this team devolve too in the last few seasons.

This season is big to see of the core can right the ship again.


Fired GM/Coach/released UFA vets. If the ship isn't righted, the Core is the thing that gets changed next.


There are inner and outer cores. The inner core is going to be Sid and Malkin and the outer is Fleury and Letang.
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Re: At this point our biggest need?

Postby Sams_Dog on Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:16 pm

GeoTank wrote:
Sams_Dog wrote:“It’s a situation where they wanted there to be some change — not just in the way that we play, but culturally and in how things went on,” Hynes said. “It was a real thorough process. I think those are the biggest things." This is a polite, PC way of saying "We have leadership and locker room issues. Several people have said it and it is why they hired Guerin and Tocchet. I would be willing to bet that the off ice issues are a good deal worse than people think. This is not good. Culture = work ethic and attitude. Cohesiveness = cliques in the locker room and poor communication amongst the players. That is the job of the captain and the assistant captains, the vets. The fact that Mario and Burkle had to address this is not good. SUre, Bylsma had some responsibility too but it seems like he was tuned out. This worries me.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/peng ... 1407170199



Wow i saw the start of the third quote and couldn't stop reading.... i couldn't believe Hynes would say all that. then i read to see what else he said and now realize that is your thoughts not his. please be more careful with your " " some might not read the artical and next week are quoting Hynes saying "the off ice issues are a good deal worse than people think."...... which isn't the case.

Nice quick read though, thanks for the link


My fault. I shouldn't have put those in there.
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Re: At this point our biggest need?

Postby DesertPenguin on Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:50 pm

Our biggest need is a top 6 left handed LW. It doesn't need to happen now though. Here's what I expect.
1. RFAs signed. Depending especially on the length of Sutter's deal, that will determine whether he is a trade chip or a long term asset.
2. Season starts with Maatta and Pouliot on the shelf. Young guys get time to play and Scuderi has a chance to prove he isn't worthless
3. Maatta comes back, creating a bigger logjam on D.
4. Sometime November - Trade Deadline a defenseman: Scuderi and/or one of the young guys showcased early on, is moved for a LW. Sutter and/or Martin could be involved here as well depending on contracts.
5. Profit.
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Re: At this point our biggest need?

Postby no name on Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:24 pm

Our biggest need is a top 6 left handed LW


I listened to Madden on the ride home, he was saying Sid is torn, he wants to play with Duper and Kunitz cause of the comfort level he has with them. But he would love a right handed shot to work with to set up and be set up.

We got Hornqvist if he wants that. I would love to see a line of Horny-Sid-Kuny. Only problem is Malkin ends up with Bennette and Duper as his wings as good as Geno is i dont see him generating much offence with thoes guys as his wingers.
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Re: At this point our biggest need?

Postby no name on Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:28 pm

no name wrote:
Our biggest need is a top 6 left handed LW


I listened to Madden on the ride home, he was saying Sid is torn, he wants to play with Duper and Kunitz cause of the comfort level he has with them. But he would love a right handed shot to work with to set up and be set up.

We got Hornqvist if he wants that. I would love to see a line of Horny-Sid-Kuny. Only problem is Malkin ends up with Bennette and Duper as his wings as good as Geno is i dont see him generating much offence with thoes guys as his wingers.


And to be honest... Bennette to me isn't never going to be anything more than a 15 goal scorer at best. Heard he was supposed to be agood play maker but that hasn't shown any fruit yet. Hope i am wrong about the kid. Seems like a Morosov type. All flash and no results.
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Re: At this point our biggest need?

Postby Crankshaft on Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:13 pm

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Re: At this point our biggest need?

Postby wondermoose on Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:04 pm

I think Bennett is eventually going to get shipped. He is at his best when he's got the puck on his stick and, unfortunately, that'll never happen on the top two lines. I thought he has looked his best, by far, playing with Sutter where he could carry the puck and be creative.
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