ExPatriatePen wrote:pfim wrote:ExPatriatePen wrote:Peter won't answer basic questions about who he works for or whether or not he intends to even be in Pittsburgh in five years.
That answers a ton of questions right there.
This is the most ridiculous line of reasoning I've seen here in a while, and that's saying a lot. Especially coming from someone in New York.
You obviously haven't read this thread.
Peter has zero problems with Forest City or Ratner or the way they're going about obtaining the license.
Obviously the first things that come to mind are 1) He has a personal interest in seeing FC / Ratner get the license. 2) He doesn't care because he's not 'invested' in Pittsburgh (He doesn't plan on being here long).
I asked him questions regarding those concerns.
When he replied that he was a school teacher and a longtime Pittsburgh resident, it didn't answer either of my questions directly. But I dropped the issue anyway (To be honest I figured he was either 1) Untruthful 2) to dense to understand the concept of applying pressure to unscrupulous businesses or 3) just stirring up trouble) In any case - I didn't feel it was worth my time to persue the issue.
As for my being from NY. You obviously haven't read any of MY posts.
(Those of you that have - this will be totally redundant and your forgiven for skipping to a more interesting thread)
I'm a third generation Pittsburgher. My family still lives there. My son lives there with my Ex. I graduated H.S. from N.A. in 1975. I spent the next four years in the service. I returned to Pittsburgh in 1979. I went to Pitt from 1979-1982. I left because I couldn't find work there in 1982. I returned in 1985. I left again in 1995 because of a lack of work. I've found great success in NY. I still wish like HELL that I lived in Pittsburgh. I want nothing more than to see Pittsburgh prosper and become regain the economic vitality it had in my youth. I will always be a Pittsburgher.
I often read your posts pfim and I normally respect your opinions, but your coming in late on this thread and making false assumptions.
pfim wrote:I read the entire thread, and I did come late to this line of thought because I thought it was stupid. Then people start calling someone else dense because they happen to disagree on something completely inconsequential.
Basically, you start accusing someone of doing exactly what you did without knowing the facts? Nice.
I don't fault you for leaving, why would I? I did too. But to cast dispersions on someone who stayed because he happens to disagree with you is wrong. Peter came back to the city to teach (this is known by many) and yet while "dropping it" you yet again either called him 1. a liar 2. dumb or 3. being a trouble maker.
What Harrah's and Ratner are doing isn't much better than cozying up with a local sports team to get a license to print money. Just because it serves your/our purpose, does not make it a true or just cause. This is how business is done, to think otherwise is incredibly naive.
If I still lived in Pittsburgh, I would support the Pens' proposal in order to keep the team there, but all three parties are selling themselves and to call one side bad while the other does the same is hypocritical.
dboss wrote:It is one thing to voice opposition to someone else's opinion, our society and county wouldn't exist without it, but there are also ways to voice that opinion and still be courteous. If Peter wouldn't have been such a smarta** he wouldn't have had 'dispersions' cast upon him. If Peter wants to voice his opinion and people begin to rip on him, etc. I agree that is incredibly unfair, but if Peter can't form a rebuttle to that opinion without being a smarta** then he deserves exactly what he gets in return. If that is how he intends on interacting with people then he should take it like a man, or learn to voice his opinions in a more tactful way.
Peter wrote: Maybe the rent checks go to Cleveland, but the businesses are in the city.
Peter wrote: Of course I want the slots licence to benefit the penguins. I don't want to pay taxes for a new arena.
Peter wrote: I'm not going to blindly follow the penguins bandwagon just because I'm a fan.
Peter wrote: The only controversial thing I've said was that SS deserved to be in the running for a licence, and that a boycott won't help.
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