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Re: Official GDT - Pens vs Sens - 12/5/16

Postby murphydump55 on Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:37 pm

CF% with 9 minutes left in 3rd

Letang - 87.50% - Crazy!
Dumoulin - 76%
Cole - 75%
Schultz - 72%
Daley - 41.67%
Maatta - 29.17 - awful.

That's 6 straight games where Maatta has yet to be above 50%. This is a damn ugly number and he's put up some ugly ones. Just caved in game after game. But yes keep telling us how Maatta is our 3rd best dman and is playing well.

This team is going nowhere unless he finds his game, the Cole/Schultz pairing gets elevated and handles it, or a trade is made for a 2nd pairing dman to replace him.
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Re: Official GDT - Pens vs Sens - 12/5/16

Postby Hugo Stiglitz on Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:37 pm

OHhhhhh yeahhhhhhh
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Re: Official GDT - Pens vs Sens - 12/5/16

Postby Hugo Stiglitz on Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:38 pm

Good thing they removed Anderson after seven goals... because it matters now.
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Re: Official GDT - Pens vs Sens - 12/5/16

Postby DelPen on Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:39 pm

Would Ottawa just give us Anderson for Fleury? As a backup Anderson is not bad. And surely Fleury could turn it around in Ottawa or at least I hope someone out there actually believes that.
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Re: Official GDT - Pens vs Sens - 12/5/16

Postby BurghThing on Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:42 pm

This is the time someone need to blindside Neil into next year.
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Re: Official GDT - Pens vs Sens - 12/5/16

Postby murphydump55 on Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:43 pm

DelPen wrote:Would Ottawa just give us Anderson for Fleury? As a backup Anderson is not bad. And surely Fleury could turn it around in Ottawa or at least I hope someone out there actually believes that.


Anderson is in and out of the lineup and could ask for extended leaves at any time. Not a guy you should count on.
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Re: Official GDT - Pens vs Sens - 12/5/16

Postby Southern Fan on Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:44 pm

[quote="murphydump55"]CF% with 9 minutes left in 3rd

Letang - 87.50% - Crazy!

I don't know anything about advanced stats, but

What's the breakdown on Letang's Corsi if the formula is shots plus missed shots plus blocked shots. I would think he has a huge bucket of missed and blocked shots every game.

Must be partly an attitiude of the willingness to shoot, which I can see why Maatta's CF% would be horrible (Scuderi like numbers).
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Re: Official GDT - Pens vs Sens - 12/5/16

Postby Hot Dog Vendor on Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:46 pm

THE RUSTY HAT!!!
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Re: Official GDT - Pens vs Sens - 12/5/16

Postby SteelCityFan on Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:46 pm

Good for Rusty!!! What a great game for the kid.
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Re: Official GDT - Pens vs Sens - 12/5/16

Postby stonewizard51 on Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:47 pm

Rust with the hatty. Sweet !!
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Re: Official GDT - Pens vs Sens - 12/5/16

Postby murphydump55 on Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:47 pm

Great pass by Kunitz.
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Re: Official GDT - Pens vs Sens - 12/5/16

Postby mariojr on Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:47 pm

Pardon my ignorance; what is CF%?

Rust with the HT! Whoddathunkit?
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Re: Official GDT - Pens vs Sens - 12/5/16

Postby Hot Dog Vendor on Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:48 pm

Pretty Bush League if Boucher actually challenged that.
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Re: Official GDT - Pens vs Sens - 12/5/16

Postby murphydump55 on Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:48 pm

Southern Fan wrote:
murphydump55 wrote:CF% with 9 minutes left in 3rd

Letang - 87.50% - Crazy!

I don't know anything about advanced stats, but

What's the breakdown on Letang's Corsi if the formula is shots plus missed shots plus blocked shots. I would think he has a huge bucket of missed and blocked shots every game.

Must be partly an attitiude of the willingness to shoot, which I can see why Maatta's CF% would be horrible (Scuderi like numbers).


Maatta's CF% isn't affected that much because of his unwillingness to shoot, he gets a corsi for EVERY shot attempt while on the ice.
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Re: Official GDT - Pens vs Sens - 12/5/16

Postby DelPen on Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:49 pm

murphydump55 wrote:
DelPen wrote:Would Ottawa just give us Anderson for Fleury? As a backup Anderson is not bad. And surely Fleury could turn it around in Ottawa or at least I hope someone out there actually believes that.


Anderson is in and out of the lineup and could ask for extended leaves at any time. Not a guy you should count on.

I know and I don't care. Jarry can get a hand ful of starts. I just want someone who can be exposed in the expansion draft. Ready to live or die with Murray.
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Re: Official GDT - Pens vs Sens - 12/5/16

Postby DelPen on Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:49 pm

Hot Dog Vendor wrote:Pretty Bush League if Boucher actually challenged that.

That's Boucher
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Re: Official GDT - Pens vs Sens - 12/5/16

Postby murphydump55 on Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:50 pm

mariojr wrote:Pardon my ignorance; what is CF%?

Rust with the HT! Whoddathunkit?


Corsi For. It's an indicator of possession while on the ice. Not the be all/end all, but something to ponder in addition to the eye test.
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Re: Official GDT - Pens vs Sens - 12/5/16

Postby Southern Fan on Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:50 pm

murphydump55 wrote:
Southern Fan wrote:
murphydump55 wrote:CF% with 9 minutes left in 3rd

Letang - 87.50% - Crazy!

I don't know anything about advanced stats, but

What's the breakdown on Letang's Corsi if the formula is shots plus missed shots plus blocked shots. I would think he has a huge bucket of missed and blocked shots every game.

Must be partly an attitiude of the willingness to shoot, which I can see why Maatta's CF% would be horrible (Scuderi like numbers).


Maatta's CF% isn't affected that much because of his unwillingness to shoot, he gets a corsi for EVERY shot attempt while on the ice.



OK, makes more sense if there is concern over his Corsi. What was Scuderi's last year before he was traded?
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Re: Official GDT - Pens vs Sens - 12/5/16

Postby rgj on Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:51 pm

Methinks this one is in the hatbag.
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Re: Official GDT - Pens vs Sens - 12/5/16

Postby murphydump55 on Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:52 pm

Southern Fan wrote:
murphydump55 wrote:
Southern Fan wrote:
murphydump55 wrote:CF% with 9 minutes left in 3rd

Letang - 87.50% - Crazy!

I don't know anything about advanced stats, but

What's the breakdown on Letang's Corsi if the formula is shots plus missed shots plus blocked shots. I would think he has a huge bucket of missed and blocked shots every game.

Must be partly an attitiude of the willingness to shoot, which I can see why Maatta's CF% would be horrible (Scuderi like numbers).


Maatta's CF% isn't affected that much because of his unwillingness to shoot, he gets a corsi for EVERY shot attempt while on the ice.



OK, makes more sense if there is concern over his Corsi. What was Scuderi's last year before he was traded?


It was terrible, and the stats showed that he brought everybody down when they were on the ice with him. Currently Maatta is doing the same. Obviously he's more talented than Scuderi, but his struggles are pretty bad right now.
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Re: Official GDT - Pens vs Sens - 12/5/16

Postby Hot Dog Vendor on Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:52 pm

Good job slamming the damn door by Murray. There should be no more questioning.
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Re: Official GDT - Pens vs Sens - 12/5/16

Postby rgj on Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:53 pm

Agreed. Murray stopped the bleeding.
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Re: Official GDT - Pens vs Sens - 12/5/16

Postby BurghThing on Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:53 pm

Hot Dog Vendor wrote:Good job slamming the damn door by Murray. There should be no more questioning.


Should be the operative word.
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Re: Official GDT - Pens vs Sens - 12/5/16

Postby PenGator88 on Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:53 pm

The goals in this game were scored the five different ways you can score a goal in ice hockey. Rust had three of them: even strength, penalty shot, & empty net.
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Re: Official GDT - Pens vs Sens - 12/5/16

Postby SteelCityFan on Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:54 pm

Great job by Murray. Came in cold and stopped 17 out of 18 shots for the win. The kid is good. Here's to hoping he gets a few more starts moving forward.
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