2018 Summer Game Plan

[Jim]

The Senators will receive:
Chris Tierney, Dylan DeMelo, Josh Norris, Rudolfs Balcers, 2019/20 1st, a 2019 2nd and two conditional picks (2021 2nd or 1st, and 2022 1st)

The draft Picks:
Ottawa receives San Jose's 1st in either 2019 or 2020 (not lottery protected); if the Sharks miss the playoff in 2018-19 it will be a 2019 selection, otherwise it will be in 2020.
Ottawa receives a 2nd in the 2019 draft from San Jose (which will be the higher of the two picks the Sharks currently own, the Florida Panthers and their own);

Conditional picks:
Should the Sharks sign Karlsson to a contract extension, Ottawa receives San Jose's 2nd in 2021, which would upgrade to a 1st (not lottery protected) if San Jose reaches the Stanley Cup Final in 2019.
If Karlsson is on an Eastern Conference roster (reserve list) during the 2018-19 season, the Senators will receive an additional 1st from the Sharks no later than 2022.

So if SJ trade Karlsson this year they owe Ottawa a "penalty" 1st.

[Jim]

Too many picks for Ottawa to pass up by including Ryan?

[theblackarts]

I'm stunned that they wouldn't accept Joe Vitale, Tanner Glass, and a 3rd. Man, we could have had him. Heck, throw in Taylor Pyatt.

[penny lane]

I'm stunned that they wouldn't accept Joe Vitale, Tanner Glass, and a 3rd. Man, we could have had him. Heck, throw in Taylor Pyatt.

*I like the penalty pick twist.

[FLPensFan]

Adding to the Karlsson trade, word from Renaud Lavoie of RDS is that JG Pageau is likely out 4-6 months after Achilles Tendon surgery.

[DelPen]

Sharks should be happy they missed out on Tavares.

[murphydump55]

Sharks should be happy they missed out on Tavares.

It’s not like Tavares would have been a bad get. He’s a year younger than Karlsson and wouldn’t have cost them any assets. He would replace an aging Thornton.

Adding Karlsson is nice too though.

[SubtropicalPenguin]

Karlsson and Burns on the same roster seems a bit redundant to me, but we'll see how it goes for them.

[stonewizard51]

Karlsson and Burns on the same roster seems a bit redundant to me, but we'll see how it goes for them.

Yeah I'm wondering how well they'll bond but having 2 offensive "D" ain't bad unless one is like he who shall remain nameless and forgets to actually play defense.

[FLPensFan]

Sam Reinhart signs a bridge deal. 2 years, 3.65M AAV. That could help drive the price down on Guentzel a bit.

[theblackarts]

Has anyone done a study measuring players production before and after contracts? Lets say the year before and the year after. Just curious.

[Daniel]

Has anyone done a study measuring players production before and after contracts? Lets say the year before and the year after. Just curious.

Not a study, but I have noticed the final year of a contract the player has a "career year" or substantial boost in performance. Reason why you see so many huge contact players be disappointment after they go back to their norm after the career year.

I've also noticed that the first year after a huge contract extension, the player will try and do too much and be worse for maybe half a season to a full year. Mostly happens with young guys and their first huge contacts, Dumoulin struggled a bit for example.

[FLPensFan]

Artemi Panarin has informed Columbus that he intends to test the free agent market next summer, and will not be signing with Columbus. Initial reports state that Kekalainen has no intention of trading him.

Panarin had given Columbus a soft September 19th deadline to figure something out (trade, contract, what type of sandwiches to order, etc), otherwise he was moving on from contract talks.

[LimerickPensFan]

Artemi Panarin has informed Columbus that he intends to test the free agent market next summer, and will not be signing with Columbus. Initial reports state that Kekalainen has no intention of trading him.

Panarin had given Columbus a soft September 19th deadline to figure something out (trade, contract, what type of sandwiches to order, etc), otherwise he was moving on from contract talks.

Over/Under on how many times in the next year that someone says we should go after him? My guess is somewhere in the thousands.

[FLPensFan]

Artemi Panarin has informed Columbus that he intends to test the free agent market next summer, and will not be signing with Columbus. Initial reports state that Kekalainen has no intention of trading him.

Panarin had given Columbus a soft September 19th deadline to figure something out (trade, contract, what type of sandwiches to order, etc), otherwise he was moving on from contract talks.

Over/Under on how many times in the next year that someone says we should go after him? My guess is somewhere in the thousands.

I don't think he'd want to come to Pittsburgh, so it's a moot point every time it comes up. If he's telling the truth about Columbus, then he seems to want to be more of a big city guy......LA, NY, Chicago, Miami, etc.

I personally feel Florida would be a good fit for him and make an up and coming Florida team have one of the better top 6's in the league:

Panarin-Barkov-Dadonov
Huberdeau-Trocheck-Hoffman

That would be a pretty stacked lineup. If I were Florida, I'd offer something like Bjugstad, a high end prospect like Owen Tippett, and a 1st round pick for Panarin and a 2nd (Florida currently has no 2nd or 3rd pick).

[FLPensFan]

Jason Mackey has a piece today talking about Letang, and how it appears Letang is going to crank his game back up to 11. The article talks about his neck injury affecting him, but, also the fact that Penguins management had asked him to dial back his game a bit (due to all the injuries) and take less risks out on the ice.

From Letang's comments, it didn't work last season and he doesn't think he can try to play that way. Says that's not what got him drafted, and not his style. He needs to play his style.

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Perhaps because of the neck issue, but also because of his age (31 now) and a laundry list of previous injuries, the Penguins asked Letang to tweak his game last season. They wanted him to take fewer risks and, as a result, fewer big hits.

Sullivan didn’t want Letang to change his game; he simply wanted him to take fewer risks, especially unnecessary ones.

That sounds good on paper, but the Penguins found out that Letang didn’t come with a medium setting. It’s all or nothing. There’s little room for interpretation.

“I got drafted for a reason,” Letang said. “I got signed for a reason. Why would I change what I am?”


http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/penguins/2018/09/21/Penguins-Kris-Letang-neck-relaxed-back-training-camp-pittsburgh-surgery-hockey-nhl/stories/201809210135

[LimerickPensFan]

Artemi Panarin has informed Columbus that he intends to test the free agent market next summer, and will not be signing with Columbus. Initial reports state that Kekalainen has no intention of trading him.

Panarin had given Columbus a soft September 19th deadline to figure something out (trade, contract, what type of sandwiches to order, etc), otherwise he was moving on from contract talks.

Over/Under on how many times in the next year that someone says we should go after him? My guess is somewhere in the thousands.

I don't think he'd want to come to Pittsburgh, so it's a moot point every time it comes up. If he's telling the truth about Columbus, then he seems to want to be more of a big city guy......LA, NY, Chicago, Miami, etc.

I personally feel Florida would be a good fit for him and make an up and coming Florida team have one of the better top 6's in the league:

Panarin-Barkov-Dadonov
Huberdeau-Trocheck-Hoffman

That would be a pretty stacked lineup. If I were Florida, I'd offer something like Bjugstad, a high end prospect like Owen Tippett, and a 1st round pick for Panarin and a 2nd (Florida currently has no 2nd or 3rd pick).

I'm not asking for odds that it will happen. I know that is zero. I'm calling for an over/under of the number of times people on this board and other social media call for the Pens to go for it.

I'm not being at all serious. Just joking about the fact that every time a big name looks to be coming available, you get a number of people saying we should go for it (the new shiny toy).

[RisslingsMissingTeeth]

I personally feel Florida would be a good fit for him and make an up and coming Florida team have one of the better top 6's in the league:

Panarin-Barkov-Dadonov
Huberdeau-Trocheck-Hoffman

That would be a pretty stacked lineup. If I were Florida, I'd offer something like Bjugstad, a high end prospect like Owen Tippett, and a 1st round pick for Panarin and a 2nd (Florida currently has no 2nd or 3rd pick).

This is the most reasonable trade scenario I've seen so far but I don't like throwing in another 1st when you include Tippett. Panthers have a bunch of solid looking prospects so you may be able to push one of those.

I know, not Pens related.

[penny lane]

Plan the parade~ Gritty( oh yes), Flyers mascot.

[Penspal]

Plan the parade~ Gritty( oh yes), Flyers mascot.

He's probably the 2nd most Gritty Flyer

[thehockeyguru]

I personally feel Florida would be a good fit for him and make an up and coming Florida team have one of the better top 6's in the league:

Panarin-Barkov-Dadonov
Huberdeau-Trocheck-Hoffman

That would be a pretty stacked lineup. If I were Florida, I'd offer something like Bjugstad, a high end prospect like Owen Tippett, and a 1st round pick for Panarin and a 2nd (Florida currently has no 2nd or 3rd pick).

This is the most reasonable trade scenario I've seen so far but I don't like throwing in another 1st when you include Tippett. Panthers have a bunch of solid looking prospects so you may be able to push one of those.

I know, not Pens related.

I thought I heard he really wants to sign with NYR and that the Rangers aren't even considering a trade giving up assets when they can get him at seasons end for nothing

I'd rather he not stay in the division

[blurryhaze312]

Plan the parade~ Gritty( oh yes), Flyers mascot.

https://twitter.com/penguins/status/1044256119508660224

[FLPensFan]

Plan the parade~ Gritty( oh yes), Flyers mascot.

https://twitter.com/penguins/status/1044256119508660224

Gritty replied: Sleep with one eye open tonight, bird.