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Game 8 vs Flames - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby Penspal on Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:03 am

Pens douse Flames 9-1

- Opponent were the Flames, but it was the Pens on fire last night (exception being the Flames D, they were a tire fire.... :? )
- Sid's backhand, the double tip (Crosby/Horny), bunch of guys getting their first goal.... what's not to like? :thumb:
- Murray was good, likely his best game, Neal floater was classic hockey gods decree (some idiot was talking shutout) :roll:
- Grant for Sprong didn't make much difference, but Ruhwedel looked good (lol, he was -1). Love that the Pens have 7-8 solid Dmen
- Letang & Dumo were monsters again. Both were (+5) and that pair shuts down opponenent's best forwards AND now are becoming another weapon --> wins
- Geno had a few monster shifts, including one where the Pens got him the puck at full speed, reminded me a little of McDavid actually. More Geno w/speed plz.
- Does Kessel even try to do anything but get on breakaways? :D Phil is money, can't you just feel its going in?
- All the experience and early hard work is paying off. Confidence shown & shared amongst everyone as they all got in on the action, but....
- Pens now have to avoid the dreaded "Play crappy after big win" letdown. An experienced group, hopefully they continue to roll & can get revenge on the 'Nucks
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Re: Game 8 vs Flames - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby penny lane on Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:04 am

That is what you do to a weak opponent- kill shot. Too often not seen last year.
Challenge~ make it a sweep of the trip. :thumb: :D
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Re: Game 8 vs Flames - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby Skatingpen on Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:16 am

I really thought this was going to be the deepest and most solid defense the Pens have had in years...... it sure does not seem like it. They are a mess in their own zone and really struggling. The Flames could have had 5 if not for Murray
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Re: Game 8 vs Flames - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby Southern Fan on Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:58 am

Note to Peters, no hard practices in the morning of a game-day skate. What a blunder.

So it looks like the Rutherford/Johnston decision to keep Sprong up is biting the Pens big time. Instead of leading the league in the AHL in goals, he gets to eat nachos with the scratched defenseman du jour, or watch the last 40 minutes of a game in full gear on the bench.

Murray solid. One mistake should be okay.

Brassard skating hard, but just pressing a little.

Liked how a lot of guys were invisible last night.
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Re: Game 8 vs Flames - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby NJ5934 on Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:13 am

Fun to watch but 39 shots against in a 9-1 win, ugh. Definitely not a recipe for success against anyone but the Flames and a few other bottom dwellers.
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Re: Game 8 vs Flames - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby Great58 on Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:55 am

NJ5934 wrote:Fun to watch but 39 shots against in a 9-1 win, ugh. Definitely not a recipe for success against anyone but the Flames and a few other bottom dwellers.

Well, they did give up 38 shots against the Leafs and 46 shots to the Oilers and won, but I agree. They need to tighten up before playing in Vancouver. But in some ways I can forgive the SOG against totals last night as a score effect. Leading 5-0 before 30 minutes had been played, then two PP opportunities for the Flames, the Flames are going to press hard, and the Pens are instinctively going to sit back a bit. By the third period, they were just bombing Murray, but the Pens would capitalize on quick counters to exploit the Flames cheating.
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Re: Game 8 vs Flames - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby LimerickPensFan on Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:37 am

NJ5934 wrote:Fun to watch but 39 shots against in a 9-1 win, ugh. Definitely not a recipe for success against anyone but the Flames and a few other bottom dwellers.

You mean the 5-5 Flames that are only 2 points out of playoff position?
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Re: Game 8 vs Flames - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby FLPensFan on Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:50 am

Good win in terms of, we scored a lot of goals, but, the team not only got outshot, AGAIN, it gave up 39 shots.....WAAAAAAAAAY too many. NHL Average for shots against per game is 31.3. Penguins are averaging 36.3 Shots against per game. That's the 2nd worst shots against per game average in the league, with only Anaheim worse.

They have to find a way to limit teams to around 30 shots max. They held only Vancouver and Montreal to under 30 shots (and lost both games). In their other 5 games, they have given up 36 or more shots.

Shots go down, chances go down, goals against will go down, and the team will be better overall.
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Re: Game 8 vs Flames - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby LimerickPensFan on Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:12 pm

FLPensFan wrote:Good win in terms of, we scored a lot of goals, but, the team not only got outshot, AGAIN, it gave up 39 shots.....WAAAAAAAAAY too many. NHL Average for shots against per game is 31.3. Penguins are averaging 36.3 Shots against per game. That's the 2nd worst shots against per game average in the league, with only Anaheim worse.

They have to find a way to limit teams to around 30 shots max. They held only Vancouver and Montreal to under 30 shots (and lost both games). In their other 5 games, they have given up 36 or more shots.

Shots go down, chances go down, goals against will go down, and the team will be better overall.

Maybe you should be more worried about giving up quality shots versus giving up shots. You don't find it strange that they lost the only two games that they limited the team to under 30 shots?
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Re: Game 8 vs Flames - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby DelPen on Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:21 pm

Southern Fan wrote:Note to Peters, no hard practices in the morning of a game-day skate. What a blunder.

So it looks like the Rutherford/Johnston decision to keep Sprong up is biting the Pens big time. Instead of leading the league in the AHL in goals, he gets to eat nachos with the scratched defenseman du jour, or watch the last 40 minutes of a game in full gear on the bench.

Murray solid. One mistake should be okay.

Brassard skating hard, but just pressing a little.

Liked how a lot of guys were invisible last night.


Sprong is not waiver exempt this year. If he was he’d be down in WBS for sure. And I doubt he would ever clear waivers. Neither would Simon who is in the same situation. ZAR is only down because of the waivers situation too.
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Re: Game 8 vs Flames - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby Great58 on Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:41 pm

DelPen wrote:
Southern Fan wrote:Note to Peters, no hard practices in the morning of a game-day skate. What a blunder.

So it looks like the Rutherford/Johnston decision to keep Sprong up is biting the Pens big time. Instead of leading the league in the AHL in goals, he gets to eat nachos with the scratched defenseman du jour, or watch the last 40 minutes of a game in full gear on the bench.

Murray solid. One mistake should be okay.

Brassard skating hard, but just pressing a little.

Liked how a lot of guys were invisible last night.


Sprong is not waiver exempt this year. If he was he’d be down in WBS for sure. And I doubt he would ever clear waivers. Neither would Simon who is in the same situation. ZAR is only down because of the waivers situation too.

The lament is that Sprong is not waiver exempt BECAUSE of his 14 games with Johnson. If he had gone back to the Q earlier that year, he could be playing in WBS now.
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Re: Game 8 vs Flames - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby murphydump55 on Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:47 pm

FLPensFan wrote:Good win in terms of, we scored a lot of goals, but, the team not only got outshot, AGAIN, it gave up 39 shots.....WAAAAAAAAAY too many. NHL Average for shots against per game is 31.3. Penguins are averaging 36.3 Shots against per game. That's the 2nd worst shots against per game average in the league, with only Anaheim worse.

They have to find a way to limit teams to around 30 shots max. They held only Vancouver and Montreal to under 30 shots (and lost both games). In their other 5 games, they have given up 36 or more shots.

Shots go down, chances go down, goals against will go down, and the team will be better overall.


Funny I said the same in another thread and was chastised for not enjoying the blowout win. There’s issues that need to be addressed.
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Re: Game 8 vs Flames - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby murphydump55 on Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:47 pm

LimerickPensFan wrote:
FLPensFan wrote:Good win in terms of, we scored a lot of goals, but, the team not only got outshot, AGAIN, it gave up 39 shots.....WAAAAAAAAAY too many. NHL Average for shots against per game is 31.3. Penguins are averaging 36.3 Shots against per game. That's the 2nd worst shots against per game average in the league, with only Anaheim worse.

They have to find a way to limit teams to around 30 shots max. They held only Vancouver and Montreal to under 30 shots (and lost both games). In their other 5 games, they have given up 36 or more shots.

Shots go down, chances go down, goals against will go down, and the team will be better overall.

Maybe you should be more worried about giving up quality shots versus giving up shots. You don't find it strange that they lost the only two games that they limited the team to under 30 shots?


They did give up quality shots.
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Re: Game 8 vs Flames - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby THEREALpittsburghpenguins on Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:59 pm

The back pressure from the forwards was very bad. The trailing player coming into the zone is almost always open. Most of the forwards are missing their guys in the d zone. We also play such a passive zone in our end. That's why we are giving up so many shots. We aren't trying to get the puck out once zone time is established. We are sitting back and packing the house. It's not very effective...... Or maybe it is cause we keep winning. I don't see it as a recipe for long term and playoff success.
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Re: Game 8 vs Flames - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby Humperdink on Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:27 pm

Anyone know who is first place in the Metropolitan division? Anyone know which team is tied for the least amount of regulation losses in the NHL?
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Re: Game 8 vs Flames - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby LimerickPensFan on Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:27 pm

THEREALpittsburghpenguins wrote:The back pressure from the forwards was very bad. The trailing player coming into the zone is almost always open. Most of the forwards are missing their guys in the d zone. We also play such a passive zone in our end. That's why we are giving up so many shots. We aren't trying to get the puck out once zone time is established. We are sitting back and packing the house. It's not very effective...... Or maybe it is cause we keep winning. I don't see it as a recipe for long term and playoff success.

Fully agree with this. Most of the odd-man rushes were solid 3 on 2's, with both defense back.
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Re: Game 8 vs Flames - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby longtimefan on Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:28 pm

With 10:42 left in the 2nd period, the Pens took a 6-0 lead to chase Smith. To that point, the Pens had outshot the Flames 19-14. Anything after that I take with a grain of salt, as it's human nature to back off. Calgary was simply trying to get something done. The Flames racked up a lot of shots after the game was effectively over.
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Re: Game 8 vs Flames - Thoughts from the Morning After

Postby LimerickPensFan on Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:28 pm

Humperdink wrote:Anyone know who is first place in the Metropolitan division? Anyone know which team is tied for the least amount of regulation losses in the NHL?

Yeah, I'm guessing there are still people on this board that want Letang traded. :face:
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