Official GDT: Pens vs Bolts 11/15/18

[Southern Fan]

Does Murray know he’s allowed to move to save a puck.

Holy ****. He hasn’t been great but do you even realize how tough that is? My god. That’s literally a perfect shot and the toughest to stop. Sometimes the shooters make a great shot. It’s allowed.

Other teams have stacked PPs too. Tampa would certainly be one of them. Not sure Murray is really at fault for much tonight. And not going to support Errey's "oh the PK is awful now that Hagelin left" narrative. A stacked, full 5-3 led to 2 of the goals.

Yeah. Agreed. They’re full of weapons.

I wish I could agree with you. I really do. It’s not all his fault. Guys in front of him don’t do him any favors.

[Maestro]

Murray is not playing well and he hasn’t been playing well for a while.

What would you like him to do differently on 5-3 goals against? Great lateral movement by the Bolts. The Gourde shot was a beauty, low along the ice at far post as the goalie is just starting to push off towards the other post. The only semi-questionable goal would be Pointe's 3rd goal, and I just say semi-questionable because it wasn't as tic-tac-toe as the 1st 2 goals.

Stop a shot?

[murphydump55]

Murray is not playing well and he hasn’t been playing well for a while.

What would you like him to do differently on 5-3 goals against? Great lateral movement by the Bolts. The Gourde shot was a beauty, low along the ice at far post as the goalie is just starting to push off towards the other post. The only semi-questionable goal would be Pointe's 3rd goal, and I just say semi-questionable because it wasn't as tic-tac-toe as the 1st 2 goals.

Aside from John Gibson who is having an unreal season considering, I wonder who has faced the most high danger chances after him? Murray has to be up there.

[murphydump55]

Murray is not playing well and he hasn’t been playing well for a while.

What would you like him to do differently on 5-3 goals against? Great lateral movement by the Bolts. The Gourde shot was a beauty, low along the ice at far post as the goalie is just starting to push off towards the other post. The only semi-questionable goal would be Pointe's 3rd goal, and I just say semi-questionable because it wasn't as tic-tac-toe as the 1st 2 goals.

Stop a shot?

Deep.

I’m assuming you’ve never played?

[Faubert5]

Murray is not playing well and he hasn’t been playing well for a while.

What would you like him to do differently on 5-3 goals against? Great lateral movement by the Bolts. The Gourde shot was a beauty, low along the ice at far post as the goalie is just starting to push off towards the other post. The only semi-questionable goal would be Pointe's 3rd goal, and I just say semi-questionable because it wasn't as tic-tac-toe as the 1st 2 goals.

Aside from John Gibson who is having an unreal season considering, I wonder who has faced the most high danger chances after him? Murray has to be up there.

I read somewhere he's near the top in high danger chances against and near the bottom on save percentage on high danger chances.

[Southern Fan]

Murray is not playing well and he hasn’t been playing well for a while.

What would you like him to do differently on 5-3 goals against? Great lateral movement by the Bolts. The Gourde shot was a beauty, low along the ice at far post as the goalie is just starting to push off towards the other post. The only semi-questionable goal would be Pointe's 3rd goal, and I just say semi-questionable because it wasn't as tic-tac-toe as the 1st 2 goals.

Aside from John Gibson who is having an unreal season considering, I wonder who has faced the most high danger chances after him? Murray has to be up there.

That’s been the Penguin way forever. Don’t think anyone will get a Vezina nomination in our lifetime.

[murphydump55]

Murray is not playing well and he hasn’t been playing well for a while.

What would you like him to do differently on 5-3 goals against? Great lateral movement by the Bolts. The Gourde shot was a beauty, low along the ice at far post as the goalie is just starting to push off towards the other post. The only semi-questionable goal would be Pointe's 3rd goal, and I just say semi-questionable because it wasn't as tic-tac-toe as the 1st 2 goals.

Aside from John Gibson who is having an unreal season considering, I wonder who has faced the most high danger chances after him? Murray has to be up there.

I read somewhere he's near the top in high danger chances against and near the bottom on save percentage on high danger chances.

Makes sense.

[KG]

The whole team needs to be better. Blaming this on JJ and or Cullen is silly.

Brassard needs to get healthy ASAP or be traded. Sheahan is a 4th line center who shouldn’t be resigned. Rust is too busy spending his millions. Murray has been below average for to long. The pens aren’t the 95 Devils. They need their goalie to be on top of his game every game.

Maatta I would gauge the trade market. He’s slow and overrated and overpaid.

There is some dead weight on this team. Sullivan needs to be better . They all need to be better and commit to team defense.

[FLPensFan]

Murray is not playing well and he hasn’t been playing well for a while.

What would you like him to do differently on 5-3 goals against? Great lateral movement by the Bolts. The Gourde shot was a beauty, low along the ice at far post as the goalie is just starting to push off towards the other post. The only semi-questionable goal would be Pointe's 3rd goal, and I just say semi-questionable because it wasn't as tic-tac-toe as the 1st 2 goals.

Aside from John Gibson who is having an unreal season considering, I wonder who has faced the most high danger chances after him? Murray has to be up there.

Gibson had 124 high danger shots against coming into tonight. Murray had 69. However, in terms of HDSA per game, Gibson is 7.75, Murray is 7.67. However, Murray has given up 17 High Danger Goals. His High Danger SV% is .754. That ranks 60th out of 69 goalies, and only 3 of the 9 goalies worse than him have played more than 5 games.

[Southern Fan]

Bet there will no penalties called in the third.

[thehockeyguru]

What a terrible call

[BurghThing]

So tackling a man from behind who doesn't have the puck is OK.

The more you learn

[Humperdink]

Murray is not playing well and he hasn’t been playing well for a while.

What would you like him to do differently on 5-3 goals against? Great lateral movement by the Bolts. The Gourde shot was a beauty, low along the ice at far post as the goalie is just starting to push off towards the other post. The only semi-questionable goal would be Pointe's 3rd goal, and I just say semi-questionable because it wasn't as tic-tac-toe as the 1st 2 goals.

Stop a shot?

Deep.

I’m assuming you’ve never played?

Classic response! I love that. Can't you see? You're an idiot because you never played the game. Be thankful he didn't correct your (you're????) grammar.

[murphydump55]

Murray is not playing well and he hasn’t been playing well for a while.

What would you like him to do differently on 5-3 goals against? Great lateral movement by the Bolts. The Gourde shot was a beauty, low along the ice at far post as the goalie is just starting to push off towards the other post. The only semi-questionable goal would be Pointe's 3rd goal, and I just say semi-questionable because it wasn't as tic-tac-toe as the 1st 2 goals.

Stop a shot?

Deep.

I’m assuming you’ve never played?

Classic response! I love that. Can't you see? You're an idiot because you never played the game. Be thankful he didn't correct your (you're????) grammar.

Never said he was an idiot. Just asked a question.

[FLPensFan]

So tackling a man from behind who doesn't have the puck is OK.

The more you learn

I tend to agree that the call was questionable. Oleksiak is tracking him and engaged the whole time. Joseph suddenly turns in position to face the boards. Not sure what Oleksiak is supposed to do there. Not like he was 6 feet away and still drove into him. He had a hand on him most of the time around the net.

[Faubert5]

Murray is not playing well and he hasn’t been playing well for a while.

What would you like him to do differently on 5-3 goals against? Great lateral movement by the Bolts. The Gourde shot was a beauty, low along the ice at far post as the goalie is just starting to push off towards the other post. The only semi-questionable goal would be Pointe's 3rd goal, and I just say semi-questionable because it wasn't as tic-tac-toe as the 1st 2 goals.

Stop a shot?

Deep.

I’m assuming you’ve never played?

Classic response! I love that. Can't you see? You're an idiot because you never played the game. Be thankful he didn't correct your (you're????) grammar.

Every time someone says that I think two words. Mike Milbury.

[BurghThing]

So tackling a man from behind who doesn't have the puck is OK.

The more you learn

I tend to agree that the call was questionable. Oleksiak is tracking him and engaged the whole time. Joseph suddenly turns in position to face the boards. Not sure what Oleksiak is supposed to do there. Not like he was 6 feet away and still drove into him. He had a hand on him most of the time around the net.

I was actually referring to the Penguin getting tackled at the other end right before that.

[Realist]

Looks like Pens are going to blame the refs if they lose tonight. Letang hinted at it...

[murphydump55]

The whole team needs to be better. Blaming this on JJ and or Cullen is silly.

Brassard needs to get healthy ASAP or be traded. Sheahan is a 4th line center who shouldn’t be resigned. Rust is too busy spending his millions. Murray has been below average for to long. The pens aren’t the 95 Devils. They need their goalie to be on top of his game every game.

Maatta I would gauge the trade market. He’s slow and overrated and overpaid.

There is some dead weight on this team. Sullivan needs to be better . They all need to be better and commit to team defense.

Bringing in useless depth players doesn’t help matters. Depth is key to success. Neither can drive offense nor defend well.

Sheahan played well last year. I can’t blame anyone for that singing, this is on Riley.
Cullen stunk last year. It wasn’t hard to see. Eye test, numbers, it all showed. Yet people were clamouring to bring him back at the deadline!
Brassard either needs to get healthy ASAP or traded? Who wants him if he’s injured? Wtf?
You claim Maatta stinks and is overpaid? Which would net a great return then right? And teams would obviously want an overrated, overpaid player?

[Southern Fan]

Several of you are goalie experts. Could Matt be nursing a nagging injury that is affecting his lateral movement.

Hate to not have confidence in him. But if you can pass the puck side to side, you seem to always have a hole on him. Of course, you would think the Pens in front of him would adjust to that.

[KG]

The whole team needs to be better. Blaming this on JJ and or Cullen is silly.

Brassard needs to get healthy ASAP or be traded. Sheahan is a 4th line center who shouldn’t be resigned. Rust is too busy spending his millions. Murray has been below average for to long. The pens aren’t the 95 Devils. They need their goalie to be on top of his game every game.

Maatta I would gauge the trade market. He’s slow and overrated and overpaid.

There is some dead weight on this team. Sullivan needs to be better . They all need to be better and commit to team defense.

Bringing in useless depth players doesn’t help matters. Depth is key to success. Neither can drive offense nor defend well.

Sheahan played well last year. I can’t blame anyone for that singing, this is on Riley.
Cullen stunk last year. It wasn’t hard to see. Eye test, numbers, it all showed. Yet people were clamouring to bring him back at the deadline!
Brassard either needs to get healthy ASAP or traded? Who wants him if he’s injured? Wtf?
You claim Maatta stinks and is overpaid? Which would net a great return then right? And teams would obviously want an overrated, overpaid player?

The point is the team relies to much on Geno Sid and Phill. What made this team special was their depth, balanced scoring and speed. When they rely on their stars they are mediocre.

My personal opinion but having $7.5 mill locked up in Rust and Maatta is bad asset management. Rust is a 3rd line player, Maatta is a #4 dman. If they could get good value for them I would look into it.

[murphydump55]

Several of you are goalie experts. Could Matt be nursing a nagging injury that is affecting his lateral movement.

Hate to not have confidence in him. But if you can pass the puck side to side, you seem to always have a hole on him. Of course, you would think the Pens in front of him would adjust to that.

There’s no doubt he’s struggling but the Pens pdo’d themselves to that second of back to back Cups and that doesn’t happen without good goaltending. His road was a lot easier to the first Cup but the second the team didn’t defend nearly as well and he survived just fine.

Something isn’t right and when you combine that with struggling players and bad players, it looks even worse.

[stonewizard51]

Several of you are goalie experts. Could Matt be nursing a nagging injury that is affecting his lateral movement.

Hate to not have confidence in him. But if you can pass the puck side to side, you seem to always have a hole on him. Of course, you would think the Pens in front of him would adjust to that.

I know Murray wants to play but he shouldn't be any where near the ice if he has an injury which affects any part of his game.

Something is living in his head and he needs to get rid of whatever it is.

[Maestro]

Murray is not playing well and he hasn’t been playing well for a while.

What would you like him to do differently on 5-3 goals against? Great lateral movement by the Bolts. The Gourde shot was a beauty, low along the ice at far post as the goalie is just starting to push off towards the other post. The only semi-questionable goal would be Pointe's 3rd goal, and I just say semi-questionable because it wasn't as tic-tac-toe as the 1st 2 goals.

Stop a shot?

Deep.

I’m assuming you’ve never played?

One thing I don't have to "assume" because I know it to be fact. You're an idiotic jerk.

[murphydump55]

The whole team needs to be better. Blaming this on JJ and or Cullen is silly.

Brassard needs to get healthy ASAP or be traded. Sheahan is a 4th line center who shouldn’t be resigned. Rust is too busy spending his millions. Murray has been below average for to long. The pens aren’t the 95 Devils. They need their goalie to be on top of his game every game.

Maatta I would gauge the trade market. He’s slow and overrated and overpaid.

There is some dead weight on this team. Sullivan needs to be better . They all need to be better and commit to team defense.

Bringing in useless depth players doesn’t help matters. Depth is key to success. Neither can drive offense nor defend well.

Sheahan played well last year. I can’t blame anyone for that singing, this is on Riley.
Cullen stunk last year. It wasn’t hard to see. Eye test, numbers, it all showed. Yet people were clamouring to bring him back at the deadline!
Brassard either needs to get healthy ASAP or traded? Who wants him if he’s injured? Wtf?
You claim Maatta stinks and is overpaid? Which would net a great return then right? And teams would obviously want an overrated, overpaid player?

The point is the team relies to much on Geno Sid and Phill. What made this team special was their depth, balanced scoring and speed. When they rely on their stars they are mediocre.

My personal opinion but having $7.5 mill locked up in Rust and Maatta is bad asset management. Rust is a 3rd line player, Maatta is a #4 dman. If they could get good value for them I would look into it.

Hey I agree but that’s not easy to convince teams of.

Depth is key, and Cullen and JJ are part of that depth. Sheary was just fine to keep with his 5v5 production. Instead they dealt him and opened up more space by moving Hunwick and filled that space with JJ! Then added Cullen!

There was those on here telling us how great of a player Grant was too. I called them out saying he has one good season and did absolutely zero otherwise. Nope they claimed Rutherford made a great move. Well there’s more bad depth.

Cullen, JJ, Grant, these aren’t good adds.