Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

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Re: Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

Postby murphydump55 on Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:28 pm

DelPen wrote:
pronovost19 wrote:Letang -4 in first two games.

And that’s not counting the goals on their PP.


Which it rightfully shouldn’t.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

Postby DelPen on Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:29 pm

KG wrote:And switch up the top 2 lines already. Geno is asleep and Rodrigues needs to move.

Put Zucker with Sid.

Zucker and Sid were great after we got him. And Jake and Geno also made up the best line in hockey before Jake got hurt. Swapping them makes too much sense though for Sullivan.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

Postby murphydump55 on Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:30 pm

Not gonna lie, this is what I thought this team would be. Kapanen or not.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

Postby ejd43 on Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:30 pm

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ejd43 wrote:I don’t understand why you would even try to force anything on a PK. The flyers had 3 players behind janko, tanev, and tanger. Tanger has to have more awareness and what situation he’s in. Not all tangers fault, tanevs pass was just as bad, but still have some hockey smarts.


The PK was ending and they needed a goal. I have zero problem pushing there. It was an unfortunate play but not wrong in my mind.


I just feel like with how much time was left I’d rather take my chances with killing the penalty and get back to even strength to try to tie it.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

Postby DelPen on Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:31 pm

murphydump55 wrote:Not gonna lie, this is what I thought this team would be. Kapanen or not.

This is my worst case. And everything is going wrong.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

Postby FLPensFan on Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:31 pm

According to Josh Yohe, Letang has been on the ice for all 5 goals against.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

Postby pensfaninhudsonvalley on Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:32 pm

Last 15 games played reg season and not including 1 exhibition before bubble playoffs but including playoffs the pens are 4-11
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Re: Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

Postby KG on Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:32 pm

11 goals against in 2 games is ridiculous.

Caps next. Not getting any easier.

Wonder what the leash is on the coach after last season and shortened season this year?
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Re: Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

Postby pensfaninhudsonvalley on Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:33 pm

I think if we get swept by Washington, sullivan is gone and in comes Reirden
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Re: Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

Postby thehockeyguru on Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:34 pm

FLPensFan wrote:According to Josh Yohe, Letang has been on the ice for all 5 goals against.


I've been saying to get rid of Letang since the Pens won the cup without him. Fingers crossed this is the year!
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Re: Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

Postby GSdrums87 on Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:34 pm

This coach has gotta go. This team is absolutely lifeless. Literally the exact same product as last year.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

Postby Kharlamov on Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:34 pm

FLPensFan wrote:According to Josh Yohe, Letang has been on the ice for all 5 goals against.


Making 7.25 million to do nothing. Most people wouldn’t care much either
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Re: Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

Postby pronovost19 on Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:36 pm

Whoever predicted on the predictions thread Marino would supplant Letang on #1 pairing. Kudos!
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Re: Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

Postby ejd43 on Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:37 pm

GSdrums87 wrote:This coach has gotta go. This team is absolutely lifeless. Literally the exact same product as last year.



If sully does get canned, I think it’s best to look outside for a replacement.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

Postby FLPensFan on Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:37 pm

pronovost19 wrote:Whoever predicted on the predictions thread Marino would supplant Letang on #1 pairing. Kudos!

*raises hand* I did say by end of the season, not by the first weekend. LOL
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Re: Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

Postby GSdrums87 on Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:39 pm

ejd43 wrote:
GSdrums87 wrote:This coach has gotta go. This team is absolutely lifeless. Literally the exact same product as last year.



If sully does get canned, I think it’s best to look outside for a replacement.

Gallant. Reassess later. But this **** can't continue another season.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

Postby E-Ramone on Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:39 pm

It's a weird season for sure, but this is the same product we've seen for awhile now. Something needs to change, and I don't think we're being impatient as fans given how the last couple seasons have trended the wrong way.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

Postby thehockeyguru on Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:40 pm

ejd43 wrote:
GSdrums87 wrote:This coach has gotta go. This team is absolutely lifeless. Literally the exact same product as last year.



If sully does get canned, I think it’s best to look outside for a replacement.


It doesn't matter who the coach is, Malkin and Letang are killing this team
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Re: Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

Postby murphydump55 on Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:40 pm

Chad Ruhwedel was on the ice for just 0.01 expected goals against in 11 minutes of 5v5 ice time tonight.

But he’ll get scratched because if that penalty.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

Postby ejd43 on Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:43 pm

thehockeyguru wrote:
ejd43 wrote:
GSdrums87 wrote:This coach has gotta go. This team is absolutely lifeless. Literally the exact same product as last year.



If sully does get canned, I think it’s best to look outside for a replacement.


It doesn't matter who the coach is, Malkin and Letang are killing this team


Here’s the next problem, if you decide to move on from either letang or geno, what team is going to be willing to take on such a high cap hit given the state of the league is in due to Covid and revenues being down. Teams are going to look to shed money, not take more on.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

Postby sjnhiils on Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:46 pm

They were outscored 11-5 but I thought the Pens held the edge in carrying the play. If they can eliminate their mistakes and not get caught up ice, they will be alright. They certainly generated more offense and had more quality chances than they did against Montreal. They just have to start burying them.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

Postby pronovost19 on Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:49 pm

Oskar S would look good on this team.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

Postby Sigwolf on Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:51 pm

DelPen wrote:
Sigwolf wrote:
DelPen wrote:
GSdrums87 wrote:The whole team collapses below the faceoff dots.

"OMG JARRY SUCKS."

Grow a brain or use the one you hopefully already have.


There’s a lot of both things being true here. Jarry getting zero help, Jarry could also do better because we have seen him do better.


The same team play that ran Murray out of town, because, you know, he sucked according to groupthink. It remains to be seen if it was a mistake to get rid of a goalie that could perform with the team working ahead of him. Hopefully this team will start playing ahead of Jarry, and hopefully, he will be able to perform to the level that a worthless goalie like Murray could...


(yes, sarcasm is high)


Murray has fundamental problems with his game, most glaringly is his glove hand and then anything low on the ice. We can argue if Jarry is the answer but Murray was finally exposed and needed to go.


Worth noting Murray got the win tonight with the non-RTP Senators in his first start against the Canadian-darling Leafs. Not great numbers, but got the job done with the clear mismatch of rosters on paper. Obviously small sample size, but not good optics.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

Postby FLPensFan on Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:58 pm

ejd43 wrote:
thehockeyguru wrote:
ejd43 wrote:
GSdrums87 wrote:This coach has gotta go. This team is absolutely lifeless. Literally the exact same product as last year.



If sully does get canned, I think it’s best to look outside for a replacement.


It doesn't matter who the coach is, Malkin and Letang are killing this team


Here’s the next problem, if you decide to move on from either letang or geno, what team is going to be willing to take on such a high cap hit given the state of the league is in due to Covid and revenues being down. Teams are going to look to shed money, not take more on.

While the Penguins might get a high pick or good prospect in a Malkin or Letang trade, they for sure would have to take back a big contract in return. Think Hornqvist for Matheson with high pick/high prospect coming back as well.

The time to move on from one or the other was about 2 years ago, when their overall play hadn't fallen off as much and they were still seen as desirable. Now it would be a crapshoot. Would need a strong team to lose a top center/d-man, something along the lines of the Blues losing Tarasenko with shoulder surgery. Would that type of big gap, IMO.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens @ Flyers 1/15/21

Postby ejd43 on Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:08 pm

FLPensFan wrote:
ejd43 wrote:
thehockeyguru wrote:
ejd43 wrote:
GSdrums87 wrote:This coach has gotta go. This team is absolutely lifeless. Literally the exact same product as last year.



If sully does get canned, I think it’s best to look outside for a replacement.


It doesn't matter who the coach is, Malkin and Letang are killing this team


Here’s the next problem, if you decide to move on from either letang or geno, what team is going to be willing to take on such a high cap hit given the state of the league is in due to Covid and revenues being down. Teams are going to look to shed money, not take more on.

While the Penguins might get a high pick or good prospect in a Malkin or Letang trade, they for sure would have to take back a big contract in return. Think Hornqvist for Matheson with high pick/high prospect coming back as well.

The time to move on from one or the other was about 2 years ago, when their overall play hadn't fallen off as much and they were still seen as desirable. Now it would be a crapshoot. Would need a strong team to lose a top center/d-man, something along the lines of the Blues losing Tarasenko with shoulder surgery. Would that type of big gap, IMO.


You hit the nail right on the head. It’s unfortunate, but we have so many big contracts with little reward.
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