Mountaineer wrote:...it would be great to have R.J. Umberger in Pittsburgh...
NJ5934 wrote:Wishful thinking, Umberger is as effective now as a rookie as any "veteran" we could possibly send Philly's way. CP had his chance with RJ and took the "Robert Lang" route. Now that Tarnstrom is gone (as Rita and Cross are soon to be) I can't see moving Jackman. Not unless the Pens are planning on picking someone else via UFA this offseason.
I'm sure Leclair will be moved, he's probably begged to be. Judging by the outcome of any deal CP has made in the past two years I wouldn't expect much. Recchi could get us a legit prospect or a pick, but I think he wants to stay. It would take half a miracle to find Gonchar a new home, so I'm crossing my fingers.
I think the sleeper here is Roy. I like him, I like him even more when he's dressed EVERY night and playing on the 3rd line. Someone far above me does not agree, and like Matt Barnaby he has not been used effectively on this team. I think he has alot of what playoff bound teams will be looking for. I'd rather see him stay, but........what the hell do I know.
My guess, Leclair and Roy get moved for (2) conditional draft picks.
Here's hoping for alittle luck in June and for a new home for Mr. Patrick, his time has passed.
NJ5934 wrote:I think winning the draft lottery could be more of a blessing than most think at this point. I say that because I'm not too high on Kessel. If anyone in the Pens organization feels the same we could end up with a pretty good player in exchange for trading down a slot or two...... then picking Staal. Theoretically anyway.
Pitts wrote:NJ5934 wrote:I think winning the draft lottery could be more of a blessing than most think at this point. I say that because I'm not too high on Kessel. If anyone in the Pens organization feels the same we could end up with a pretty good player in exchange for trading down a slot or two...... then picking Staal. Theoretically anyway.
Mark it down...Eric Johnson will go #1 overall. If the Pens happen to land the #1, they would be very smart to trade that pick for a player or two and a swap of #1 picks. We do not need another stud d-man no matter what anyone says. We have Crosby, Malkin, Orpik, Whitney, Welch and Fleury to build this team out. Time is ripe to trade our #1 for 2 scoring wingers. That is our real need.
Pitts wrote:I just feel this team needs some true snipers. You can talk all you want about the Surovy's, Oullete's, Koltsovs, Murleys', Armstrong's...yadda, yadda, yadda...NONE of them are scoring goals with any regularity. Crosby and Malkin will be completely wasted without finishers.
I also feel we have plenty of good to great defensive prospects that will come along with Crosby and Malkin to fill that need. Defense takes a while. Whitney, Orpik and the like need another season or two before they really start turning it around. They need time. Johnson may be 5 - 6 years away from NHL duty.
ziggystardust wrote:Tikkanen wrote:ziggystardust wrote:the lack of a sniper is not what is holding this team down. This team is losing because they don't have one top pairing defenseman on the entire roster, let a lone someone who should blossom into an elite number one defenseman.
Johnson will help the offense, and he will be an absolute blessing to watch defensively. You don't pass on players like that.
The Penguins already have Sid and Malkin carrying the top two lines. Armstrong, Christensen and Ouellet figure to be fine in secondary roles.
What snipers does Carolina have? Who are the sniper wingers in detroit? Edmonton? Buffalo? Calgary? Nashville?
none of these teams have two forwards with the potential to play at Malkin and Sidney's level. The glaring weakness in the Penguins organization is the complete lack of a #1 defenseman... why give up the oppertunity to make the weakness a strength?
Wow...that was all laughable. Hmm...snipers in Carolina - depends on your definition, but Staal is pretty good at scoring goals with a wicked shot...Detroit? Please...surely you jest - Zetterberg is close, Datsyuk's got a nose for the net, and then there's SHANNY. Edmonton? Hemsky is actually a pure sniper, but he's getting a raw deal. Buffalo has Kotalik, Vanek, and Afinogenov. Calgary has Iginla, Amonte (although aging), and Nashville has Sullivan.
When you have the defensive depth that the Pens have, and your IMMEDIATE need is for a "sniper", you deal from your position of strength (draft order) to cover your weekness (sniper). It's elementary...
Please tell me what #1 D-man in the league the Lightning had last season to win the cup? Scotty in Jersey won the Norris, but they got bounced from the playoffs. Calgary had what #1 D-man that lead them to the finals?
You can be successful in this league with a bunch of #2's, 3's and a 4 on D, but not at forward. The Pens can get a D-man in the second round AFTER they get a sniper, or trade the #1 pick for one.
you listed some good players, but none of them are as talented as Malkin or Sid. Those two players will provide plenty off offense, and players like Ouellet, Christensen and Armstrong have the perfect skill-sets to benefit from what top two centers bring to the table.
the penguins don't need a sniper. their defense is putrid, and it is holding them back. drafting kessel over johnson would be almost as big a mistake as signing gonchar.
borohcky9 wrote:I hate to break the news to you, but Ouellet, Christensen, Armstrong, Talbot, none of these guys are top line talent....period...now drop it, we are in serious need of offensive fire power on this team.