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PG Letters to the Editor Favoring FC plan for Station Square

Postby dboss on Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:32 am

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06059/662093.stm

It never ceases to amaze me how people in this city rationalize things in their minds. I can't believe I continue to live in this city/state with all these backwords thinking people. Another case of, why change? Things as they are seem to be just fine.

Plus, what is up with the PG? I can't imagine that they are getting letters 50/50 for Harrah's v. IoC, but yet they continue to give them equal treatment. If they are getting letters splitting 85/15 then that should be the proportion printed. Almost seems funny that these two letters were printed at the same time.
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Postby Sam's Drunk Dog on Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:51 am

The second letter is written by someone who has a lot to gain if the FC gets the license, since the writter owns a business in Station Square.

But the first writter is a complete moron.
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Postby Bowser on Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:53 am

Mr. Snyder had the guts to at least admit his bias being an owner of a business at Station Square. I wonder how many other businesses have been connected and 'asked' to help support the Harrah's plan.

Now let's take him to task for this section....

"Station Square has direct interstate access off the Fort Pitt Bridge, allowing cars to get in and out easily"
--- WRONG, couldn't be further from the truth. Try driving on the South Side or around Station Square and then tell me what you think of a tourist destination like a casino would do to the traffic headaches.

"plenty of room for parking"
--- HOLY CRAP WRONG... see above.
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So funny I can't stop laughing

Postby ExPatriatePen on Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:19 am

So Mr. Will Synder is in favor of a Harrah's Staion Square Slots Parlor?

Let's look at Mr. Synder's credentials...

He is reportedly a business owner at Station Square. I checked that out. The business is business-to-business (B2B) services - primarily Web Site design and E-Commerce.

http://mobilioffice.com/

Maybe Will should spend less time writing letters and more time developing a website for his business. Then again, Will may be looking for a parking space, or that elusive ramp off the Ft. Pitt bridge to Carson Street.

wsnyder@mobilioffice.com
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Postby Bowser on Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:36 am

EPP - We could all "conact" him via email at wsnyder@mobilioffice.com
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Postby ExPatriatePen on Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:46 am

Bowser wrote:EPP - We could all "conact" him via email at wsnyder@mobilioffice.com


I missed that mis-spelling. :-) That's great!
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Postby Pitts on Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:55 am

It appears Will Snyder is only looking to grow his business if the FC plan is approved.
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Postby Pitts on Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:59 am

Bowser wrote:Mr. Snyder had the guts to at least admit his bias being an owner of a business at Station Square. I wonder how many other businesses have been connected and 'asked' to help support the Harrah's plan.

Now let's take him to task for this section....

"Station Square has direct interstate access off the Fort Pitt Bridge, allowing cars to get in and out easily"
--- WRONG, couldn't be further from the truth. Try driving on the South Side or around Station Square and then tell me what you think of a tourist destination like a casino would do to the traffic headaches.

"plenty of room for parking"
--- HOLY CRAP WRONG... see above.


It only has "direct" access off the Fort Pitt Bridge in one direction...from the North. And, you have to know how to find that access! To be a "major tourist attraction", the direct access should be from the south where the airport is. Station Square has no such access. To do that, you need to go into town, turn around and back out, or into town to Smithfield Street and across that rickety, one lane bridge into traffic hell. Nice try!
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Postby bill from turtle creek on Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:03 am

I've already sent our esteemed writer an email telling him what I think about his ideas.

And man, that web site is not a good advertisement, that's for sure.
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Postby HomerPenguin on Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:13 pm

Sam's Drunk Dog wrote:The second letter is written by someone who has a lot to gain if the FC gets the license, since the writter owns a business in Station Square.

But the first writter is a complete moron.


The first letter strikes me as the kind of letter you get your own people to write to newspapers when you're in a political campaign. I wouldn't be surprised if the writer of that letter was an FC employee.

Will Snyder, on the other hand, should be ordered to submit to random drug testing immediately. Station Square offers easy access and plenty of parking? FC's plan would highlight the rivers by redeveloping one of the few sections of the riverfront that are already developed? The city should overdevelop there instead of developing a new potentially attractive destination site? Somebody's been hitting the crack pipe...
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Postby MWB on Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:50 pm

Why is Station Square consistently referred to as "a (or even THE in one article) major tourist attraction of Western PA." I find this completely ridiculous. When I think of tourist attraction I don't think of a clump of resaurants and bars. I think of something that provides a much more diverse selection of entertainment or a very large entertainment venue (something like Kennywood). Is Station Square getting completely over-hyped, or is it just me?
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Postby spoon on Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:54 pm

Sam's Drunk Dog wrote:But the first writter is a complete moron.


ANTHONY MUSMANNO - Chief Creative Officer
http://www.ideamill.com/?page_id=12
IdeaMill - Phone: 412-924-0027
http://my.soflow.com/Anthony-Musmanno

then again there is also....
Anthony Musmanno Funeral Home, 700 7th Street, McKees Rocks, PA 15136, 412-331-0900.

take yer pick
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Postby Sam's Drunk Dog on Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:59 pm

OK, OK

You guys are getting a little crazy with this.

These people are entitled to their opinions, however wrong they may be. I don't think there is any need in harrassing them. It won't get the Pens a new arena. If anything it will result in them aligning themselves with FC.
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Postby spoon on Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:02 pm

it's not like i gave out personal info. google the name and that's what you get. blame the internet.
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Postby dboss on Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:03 pm

spoon wrote:
Sam's Drunk Dog wrote:But the first writter is a complete moron.


ANTHONY MUSMANNO - Chief Creative Officer
http://www.ideamill.com/?page_id=12
IdeaMill - Phone: 412-924-0027
http://my.soflow.com/Anthony-Musmanno

then again there is also....
Anthony Musmanno Funeral Home, 700 7th Street, McKees Rocks, PA 15136, 412-331-0900.

take yer pick


Figures!! The former, who I am DEFINITELY thinking wrote the op-ed, does print ads for Forest City at Station Square. Way to go PG, way to do your homework on this. That took a whole two sec. google to find that information.

http://www.ideamill.com/print/

And who would we send this info. to at the PG?
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Postby HomerPenguin on Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:05 pm

MWB wrote:Why is Station Square consistently referred to as "a (or even THE in one article) major tourist attraction of Western PA." I find this completely ridiculous. When I think of tourist attraction I don't think of a clump of resaurants and bars. I think of something that provides a much more diverse selection of entertainment or a very large entertainment venue (something like Kennywood). Is Station Square getting completely over-hyped, or is it just me?


It's not just you. What's the definition of "tourist attraction?" If it's something that's expected to bring people into town from outside the region, which seems reasonable to me, then I'm not sure Kennywood fits the bill, let alone an overcrowded collection of bars with an amphitheatre that hasn't had a decent act in, well, ever. Do you hear about people on the west coast, in the south, or otherwise some great distance away taking their yearly vacation in Pittsburgh to see Kennywood? I think they board with all the luxury condo residents downtown.

The only thing Pittsburgh has that brings anybody in from outside the region (and even that's not a huge number) would seem to me to be, you guessed it, the sports teams. That's part of the reason this whole discussion about which casino is going to generate more tourism is just asinine. Yeah, I'm sure there are families in Arizona who just can't wait to pack their bags and fly to Pittsburgh so they can sit in front of a slot machine and pull a lever over and over.
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Postby spoon on Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:05 pm

dboss wrote: That took a whole two sec. google to find that information.
http://www.ideamill.com/print/


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Postby dboss on Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:07 pm

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Postby spoon on Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:09 pm

you're one of them!

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Postby Ginger on Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:16 pm

MWB wrote:Why is Station Square consistently referred to as "a (or even THE in one article) major tourist attraction of Western PA." I find this completely ridiculous. When I think of tourist attraction I don't think of a clump of resaurants and bars. I think of something that provides a much more diverse selection of entertainment or a very large entertainment venue (something like Kennywood). Is Station Square getting completely over-hyped, or is it just me?

No, it's not just you; it is! When I moved to the Pittsburgh area 10 years ago, everyone there kept telling me I really should visit Station Square. After finally getting settled in, we decided to do that. HUH???

First getting to it was enough to make you cry...(signage was terrible for those who don't know the city). Then we finally found our way in only to discover Hooters & Hard Rock Cafe & other establishments of that ilk. I was coming from NY. What's to see at Station Square that I couldn't have seen in any other city of Pittsburghs size? Sure there's the mile-long river walk which is a wonderful historic stroll thru' Pittsburghs past, but how many times are you going to do that? And how many times are tourists going to want to do it?
The thing with Station Square is it's much more popular with the local citizens than it is to attracting out-of-towners. Maybe casinos will do that, but the city will have to provide much better access.

Hey! I have an idea! Turn the old Igloo into a casino! :P It can happen...lol!
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Postby dboss on Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:29 pm

I fired off a letter to the Editor. This guy really pis*** me off. At least the other guy was forthcoming about the fact that he has a personal interest in who gets the license.

Anthony Musmanno's op-ed piece in the February 28th PG should have carried a notice disclosing his close ties to Forest City enterprises. A very short search via Google confirms that Mr. Musmanno, who is the Chief Creative Officer for IdeaMill Advertising, handles the print and television advertising for the Mall at Robinson which is owned by Forest City, and the print and radio advertising for Station Square. I find Mr. Musmanno's lack of full disclosure in this matter very troubling. Is this what Pittsburgh can expect from Forest City and its business partners? If so, how can the PA Gaming Control Board put any trust into Forest City's proposal? This only adds to further fuel to speculation that Forest City is inflating their revenue projections. A short notice at the bottom of his op-ed piece would have gone a long way towards the public understanding where Mr. Musmanno's allegiances really lie.
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Postby ExPatriatePen on Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:42 pm

dboss wrote:I fired off a letter to the Editor. This guy really pis*** me off. At least the other guy was forthcoming about the fact that he has a personal interest in who gets the license.

Anthony Musmanno's op-ed piece in the February 28th PG should have carried a notice disclosing his close ties to Forest City enterprises. A very short search via Google confirms that Mr. Musmanno, who is the Chief Creative Officer for IdeaMill Advertising, handles the print and television advertising for the Mall at Robinson which is owned by Forest City, and the print and radio advertising for Station Square. I find Mr. Musmanno's lack of full disclosure in this matter very troubling. Is this what Pittsburgh can expect from Forest City and its business partners? If so, how can the PA Gaming Control Board put any trust into Forest City's proposal? This only adds to further fuel to speculation that Forest City is inflating their revenue projections. A short notice at the bottom of his op-ed piece would have gone a long way towards the public understanding where Mr. Musmanno's allegiances really lie.


Why not fire off a short sweet polite and to the point letter to your favorite Talk show hosts and the Trib? I'm sure they'd love to grind their collective cometitive axe at the PG's expense...

... speaking of which, where is our old friend "pg", he/she hasn't been around in quite some time!
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Postby spoon on Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:48 pm

are yinz sure he's not the funeral home person
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Postby ExPatriatePen on Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:52 pm

spoon wrote:are yinz sure he's not the funeral home person


Well he's a stiff for sure... j/k

I think it's funny how his letter lead youto believe he was from Mt. Washington. (sure that may be his residence, but it doesn't tell the true story does it?)
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Postby dboss on Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:54 pm

ExPatriatePen wrote:
dboss wrote:I fired off a letter to the Editor. This guy really pis*** me off. At least the other guy was forthcoming about the fact that he has a personal interest in who gets the license.

Anthony Musmanno's op-ed piece in the February 28th PG should have carried a notice disclosing his close ties to Forest City enterprises. A very short search via Google confirms that Mr. Musmanno, who is the Chief Creative Officer for IdeaMill Advertising, handles the print and television advertising for the Mall at Robinson which is owned by Forest City, and the print and radio advertising for Station Square. I find Mr. Musmanno's lack of full disclosure in this matter very troubling. Is this what Pittsburgh can expect from Forest City and its business partners? If so, how can the PA Gaming Control Board put any trust into Forest City's proposal? This only adds to further fuel to speculation that Forest City is inflating their revenue projections. A short notice at the bottom of his op-ed piece would have gone a long way towards the public understanding where Mr. Musmanno's allegiances really lie.


Why not fire off a short sweet polite and to the point letter to your favorite Talk show hosts and the Trib? I'm sure they'd love to grind their collective cometitive axe at the PG's expense...

... speaking of which, where is our old friend "pg", he/she hasn't been around in quite some time!


I blind copied Madden, Junker and Crowe, and Savran on the original e-mail. :wink:
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