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Glowing Malkin article....

Postby Mountaineer on Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:13 pm

Second-best forward behind Datsyuk? Better than Ovechkin? I thought/think Ovechkin is the more dynamic player, but Malkin has an overall game that Ovechkin does not, kind of like Ronnie Francis, but twice the skill. He pretty much did everything that's expected of a top-line center, but with a physical edge that many do not have. Could it be that, once again, the Caps will find themselves playing second fiddle to the Pens? Actually, make that third fiddle, as we all know that Crosby will ultimately be the better player, and in my opinion, already is.

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Postby Mad City Mike on Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:24 pm

Link???
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Postby Mountaineer on Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:25 pm

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Postby wondermoose on Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:43 pm

I don't like the Francis comparison. First off, physically he's more comparable to Lemieux with his large body and long strides. Secondly, when Francis had the puck you knew he was looking all pass, no shoot, so it made defensemen have to think a little less. Also, he's got that point-pass-interception move down pretty well that Mario did so well early in his career.

Now, he's got the passing skills of Francis, but then again he can score with the best. I just think he has a lot more in common with Mario than Francis.
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Postby borohcky9 on Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:59 pm

If i was to compare Malkin's playing style to anyone past or present in the NHL, I would have to say he bears a striking resembelance to Eric Staal.

They both have the same similar size, passing ability, shoot and strength.

And they both play physical in the corner.

Malkin brings more of a finesse game than Staal offers, so it will be interesting how that translates to the NHL.
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Postby netwolf on Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:03 pm

wondermoose wrote:I don't like the Francis comparison. First off, physically he's more comparable to Lemieux with his large body and long strides. Secondly, when Francis had the puck you knew he was looking all pass, no shoot, so it made defensemen have to think a little less. Also, he's got that point-pass-interception move down pretty well that Mario did so well early in his career.

Now, he's got the passing skills of Francis, but then again he can score with the best. I just think he has a lot more in common with Mario than Francis.


I disagree a little. I would agree that Francis did look pass first, but not so much so that it was all pass. I think the looked pass first, but more often that not, took the shot if it was the right play. Skating-wise, the comparison doesn't hold water, which is why Pierre McGuire (who was saying this before NIN - sorry dude!) says "Francis with speed." Another reason I think McGuire went Francis is that Malkin (at least from what I saw in the Olympics) showed a lot of attention to his defensive responsibilities. Mario was agreat at that when he had to be, Francis was great at it all the time.
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Postby jmh70 on Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:09 pm

I don't know why everyone thinks Malkin will be an elite goal scorer. He is not on par with Staal and is clearly not on par with Ovechkin in that regard.

Let's not overhype him. Everyone should be happy that he is "merely" a great playmaker who can play in every situation and in all three areas of the ice.
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Postby wondermoose on Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:22 pm

Which is why getting a Kessel might be smart... Crosby and Malkin aren't the dynamic goalscorers in the league, they make things happen. Or if we miss out or skip Kessel we need to get a real sniper, maybe like a Ziggy Palffy....


lol I'm funny


But seriously, I want to skip Kessel because he's not a sure thing, but think of the PP we could have.... Malkin, Crosby, Kessel, Gonchar (He's still a PP specialist even he takes more penalties on the PP than he has scored points), and a Whitney/Jackman guy. Man oh man, i'm giddy.... AGAIN
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Postby Sleestak on Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:40 pm

Also it's fun to note that that kicking misconduct Malkin was givin in the Olympics was simply B.S.

I'm glad because we don't need a dirtbag.
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Postby Defence21 on Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:36 am

jmh70 wrote:I don't know why everyone thinks Malkin will be an elite goal scorer. He is not on par with Staal and is clearly not on par with Ovechkin in that regard.

Let's not overhype him. Everyone should be happy that he is "merely" a great playmaker who can play in every situation and in all three areas of the ice.


Did you watch this guy play? I really don't think. Yes, he is a playmaker first, but he has a shot as well. Plus, he is big and physical and plays a solid defensive game.

Look at Crosby. He's twice as good of a playmaker as he is a scorer, and look how many goals he has. Sometimes playmakers turn into better scorers than snipers simply because goalies and defensemen don't know what to expect. With a sniper, you can always assume shot and, while it may be tough to stop a laser, you can still prepare. With guys like Crosby and Malkin, you don't know what's going to happen -- shot or pass -- so positioning and preperation are difficult.

No, we shouldn't overhype Malkin, but we certainly should not undervalue him. At the olympics, he looked more than capable of playing at an extremely high level against NHL talent.
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Postby netwolf on Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:06 pm

I don't think Malkin will be an elite goal scorer like Bure and Selanne were, or like Nash, Kovalchuk and Ovechkin are now. He'll never challenge for a Richard trophy.

He will get his share of goals though. He will not be an Adam Oates, pass first, second and third guy. Again, back to the Francis comparison - he will be a guy that looks pass first, but takes shots that are available. He won't force passes when a shot is the better play. His shot appears to be better than Ronnie's ever was though.

The kid is a beast now. When you imagine what he *could* eventually develop into, it's unreal. I hope to see him do that in a Penguin sweater.
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Postby ShaPe on Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:57 pm

I dont think he will challange for the Richard trophy but I would rather compare Malkin to Forsberg. Sound in his own zone, rather pass the puck but has a good shot and can score goals. Very creative player. Plays the body. Francis from what I remember didnt play the body as much as Malkin does.
Just my 2cents :)
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Postby netwolf on Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:50 pm

Okay ShaPe, we will amend McGuire's comparison to "Francis with speed and physicality." The Francis part must remain. :wink:
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