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Benz/Madden Interview Station Square PR Guy (wav link)

Postby Bowser on Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:50 pm

You must listen to this interview.

Abe Naparstek just got exposed by Tim Benz and Mark Madden on ESPN Radio Game Night in Pittsburgh.

ESPN Radio 1250 AM

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ENJOY!!

15 minute interview that the PR guy had no idea Madden would join

Paraphrasing Naparstek's comments:
- Harrah's will generate $119 million more per year to reduce property taxes
- Isle of Capri has an inferior proposal vs Harrah's $100+ million reduction in property taxes
- Harrah's will have a bigger and better casino facility
- Harrah's is a better company than Isle of Capri
- Made Disparaging comments such as "Have you heard of IOC before this?"
- Nothing is Free, when it comes to IOC's plan for an arena
- Station Square will bring in 2.5 million tourists per year (6,839 per day)
- Harrah's #1 casino company in world
- Independent company did the estimate
- New Orleans happened because it took ten years
- "Kind of ridiculous" that the Pens won't discuss a Plan B
- he refused to 'negotiate' a number on the radio to help fund the arena
- doesn't think tax payer money is involved with Plan B
- doesn't think IOC plan will revitalize the Hill
- asked if he thinks the Lower Hill needs more development than Station Square, "I think the Lower Hill does need development"
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Postby NIN on Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:23 pm

The quality of that audio is horrible! Sounds like you recorded it on your cell phone while driving off road through a heavily wooded forrest and then uploaded it to a wav. file with some Acme coorporation program.

Other then that it was very entertaining, thank you!

Madden did get caught flat footed when he was asked if he could name one other casino they over estimated for. I am sure there are alot of other ones out there but Madden clearly did'nt have all the facts. If you claim that all but a couple are over estimating you should be able to name at least one other one, it's only fair. He knew MM got that from that article so we have to dig deeper and get that Abe charactor back in the phone and finish him off!

I was thrilled to hear the property tax issue get brought up. Bowser, I cannot put into words my frustration and disbeleif over the school millage system. Our elected politicians are paid handsomely to correct OLD IDEAS that no longer work for the betterment of todays working family's. Clearly they have no ambition to help us. The "new guy " excuses and constant vacationing sicken me. They had 20 years to figure it out. 20 years to pass the torch of creative thought from one elected format to the next for the benefit of their VERY OWN CHILDREN. Yet nothing is ever done. They ignore pleas from businesses as they are forced to leave our city just like the Penguins will. Sorry but the Hurrah plan will meet Randells SET AMOUNT OF RELEIF. No less and by the grace of God I know it in my heart NO MORE. The Penguins will meet the EXACT SAME FIGURES!!! EXACTLY!!!!! Plus a new arena for the city and a great business gets to stay and all the surrounding businesses get to prosper.

If Hurrah does generate more money the additional money WILL NOT GO TO PROPERTY TAX RELEIF!!! WHY ARENT MORE POEPLE WRITING ABOUT THIS!! THAT MONEY IS IN THE POCKETS OF CLEVELANDERS!!! NOT A CENT MORE FOR THE CITY!!! THIS IS HUGE NEWS AND finnally it was at least thrown out there and it was beautiful listening to Abe drop his hockey stick to the ice while Madden tripple deked him and Benz leveled him. :D
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Postby Bowser on Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:26 pm

I recorded from my radio on my digital hand recorder..... not the best of setups... but yeah thanks.... :roll:
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Postby netwolf on Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:55 pm

I don't care about the quality. That was an interview I would not have heard otherwise. The Pens or the Pittsburgh First people should get a hold of that tape and put it up along with the Onorato thing from 'DVE.

That guy has the Craig Patrick-like ability to talk for long amounts of time without really saying anything. :D

He did not come off very well.
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Postby Stoosh on Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:58 pm

Most of Naparstek's answers to this seemed canned. Early on in the interview (before Madden jumps in), he keeps answering Benz's questions about IoC providing the same amount of tax relief with nothing but references to Harrah's reputation as the country's biggest casino company, their notion that Harrah's is building the biggest casino facility, and the whole "property tax relief is the only priority" crap.
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Postby Bowser on Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:03 pm

The only way Harrah's can 'compete' with the IOC plan is by lying about the amount of money it can generate. Benz and Madden failed to ask why they refuse to make their economic impact report public.

They also failed to mention the $100-150 million the city, county and state will need to provide for the traffic and land.
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Postby Bowser on Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:05 pm

Let me make sure everyone knows....

Abe said Hill needs development more than SS. Talk about a HUGE admission the SS/Harrah's people can't be happy about.
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Postby Jamie on Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:13 pm

Bowser wrote:Let me make sure everyone knows....

Abe said Hill needs development more than SS. Talk about a HUGE admission the SS/Harrah's people can't be happy about.


I agree. I think it also pained Abe to make that admission. It is obvious the stance that is being taken as to why the SS Group should get the license. They are going to beat the property tax relief thing like a dead horse. BO and DO should hire a private firm to come up with the revenue figures.
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Postby NIN on Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:27 pm

Bowser wrote:Let me make sure everyone knows....

Abe said Hill needs development more than SS. Talk about a HUGE admission the SS/Harrah's people can't be happy about.


They really worked him over for that sound bite. VERY nice interveiw and I sincerely thank you for posting it.

An SS/Hurrah employee conceeding the fact that the heart of the Penguins deal is better then the heart of theirs. Beutiful.
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Postby cojac on Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:33 pm

Jamie wrote:
Bowser wrote:Let me make sure everyone knows....

Abe said Hill needs development more than SS. Talk about a HUGE admission the SS/Harrah's people can't be happy about.


I agree. I think it also pained Abe to make that admission. It is obvious the stance that is being taken as to why the SS Group should get the license. They are going to beat the property tax relief thing like a dead horse. BO and DO should hire a private firm to come up with the revenue figures.

Agree, he cracked at the end of the interview, that should be on the front page of the morning paper.
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Postby saveourpens on Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:45 pm

Jamie wrote:
Bowser wrote:Let me make sure everyone knows....

Abe said Hill needs development more than SS. Talk about a HUGE admission the SS/Harrah's people can't be happy about.




He said it needs development, but he carefully did not add a "more" in there. Either way, great seeing him being cracked like that.
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Postby Bowser on Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:03 pm

well... he was asked, what is needed more... and he responded in favor of the Lower Hill. I know he didn't say 'more' but he should have stayed far and clear of that question by giving IOC anything positive to use against Harrah's and Forest City.
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Postby Jasmine on Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:22 pm

EXCELLENT!!! The IoC bandwagon continues to roll and gain speed!!! Look out, governor, here we come!!!
Thanks, Bowser!
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Postby jdev28 on Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:39 pm

EXCELLENT!!! The IoC bandwagon continues to roll and gain speed!!! Look out, governor, here we come!!!
Thanks, Bowser!


Don't get to excited yet. As simple and obvious that it seems to us that the IoC plan it the best for Pittsburgh, I don't trust a single PA politician, and I trust Slick Ed even less.
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Postby spi on Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:12 am

I heard the interview live and what I got out of it was that Harrahs and station square are so confident about getting the license that they are barely willing to give any credence to Pittsburgh needing an arena. That guy had a message and that was whatever generates the most revenue for tax money is the only thing that matters.

This is why DO and BO MUST support a plan. Slots was sold as tax releif by the bum Rendell but its not only about tax releif to us. EVERYONE MUST KNOW THAT IF OUR PROP TAXES GO DOWN ALL OTHER TAXES GO UP>

I am most upset at how this dick head came out as cockey as he was and gave nothing in support of this city needing and arena. They could pay that arena off in 5 years and be filthy rich for the rest of time. I am still hoping that harrahs is waiting to offer full funding as their bargaining chip/
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Postby Reilly on Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:49 am

that interview is gold
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Postby fourtKNOX on Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:37 pm

i was a little disappointed in the fact that madden nor benz brought up the pt that they may infact have a bigger revenue that the city will only get a % off with Harrahs plan but the fact that the property tax may go down, hopefully, but that roads would need to be constructed, and we are talking major overhaul of the area roadways, so the break the citizens would get from property tax would be thrown toward building and developing a better transportation network...

also the guy that they interviewed mention and i hope this is correct that the condos/apartment complex would rely on casino revenue to be built... that means if Harrahs did infact overestimate (or the so called independent firm) of the revenue... we might never see the size of the project they enclose in their proposal.. they way it seems to me is if they dont make the money the project would be downsized...

IOC has said the 290 million for the arena would be available within 90 days of the issue of the license... and that no matter what the money they are making they will be contributing a million a year to the hill district... so even if they only make 3 million in a year... highly unlikely... they would throw a third of that to the hill district... pretty impressive...

now with the IOC and pens saying that their 20% of the revenue coming from the housing/offices/restuarants will be donated to the hill district is somewhat of icing on the cake...

since Harrahs are with closing all the details of their proposal i would venture to say that not only are they not up to par with IOC pledge... but trying to hide something as well
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Postby KCHockey on Sat Mar 04, 2006 2:44 pm

- Made Disparaging comments such as "Have you heard of IOC before this?"

Ask the same question in Minneapolis...

We have both a Harrah's casino and an IofC casino here in Kansas City.

Harrah's is nicer. However, it isn't the nicest of our four casinos. AmeriStar has the nicest casino in KC.

I find this kind of funny because Harrah's was built before AmeriStar. At the time it was built, Harrah's was just OK. Then, AmeriStar came in and blew Harrah's doors off.

Only then did Harrah's put any money into their place to try and keep up with the Joneses.

With no competition in Pittsburgh, the Harrah's place will be nice for about three years, Harrah's will make their money and then it will go to *(&^...and you won't have an arena or a hockey team.

This whole thing smells so bad I can get a whiff of it from here.
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Postby Sam's Drunk Dog on Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:31 pm

I still don't see how "nice" the casino is has anything to do with revenues. A Pittsburgh casino is not going to attract that many people from far away, no matter who the gambling company is. Harrah's wants everyone to think that SS is the #1 tourist destination in the city. Most people outside of Pittsburgh have never heard of SS. In fact most people probably can't even name a neighborhood in the city anyway.

They say there brand name will draw people to their casino. I say bullsh*t!

They say the IoC plan isn't free b/c of the money involved for infrastruce. Well, who is going to pay for the costs to fix the traffic mess on Carson?

And really the only way to make more money is to have more slot machines. And that number will be the same no matter who wins the license.

Their whole proposal is such a joke, I can't believe that it is actually under consideration. This whole thing just angers me more and more everytime I think about it! Ugh! :twisted: :evil: :x
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Postby Bowser on Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:37 pm

Sam DD - When the PG, Trib, and other news organizations (KDKA, WTAE, WPXI) do fact-finding studies without their political/personal bias involved, they will conclude the Harrah's offer to be so insanely over inflated, it will take away from their so-called advantage.

you know, "we're a better casino company"
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Postby netwolf on Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:52 pm

I heard a replay of this yesterday and here's another misrespresentation of facts, if not an outright falsehood. Naprostek said something to the effect that Station Square had brought in X number of tourists over the past few years.

I know a lot of people that come to Pittsburgh visit there, but has anyone ever met someone that traveled here due to a desire to see Station Square? I haven't.

I have, however, met several people that traveled here for Pens games (and Steeler and Pirate games as well.)

But why let facts get in the way, right?
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