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Re: Holiday Wars - After Party

Postby Troy Loney on Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:12 pm

Ok so I inspected you and if it fails, I would still know your something.

I'm able to see greens, and regular villagers, but the bosses(mafia) would fail? I would of done the same thing.


Because if i'm immune to inspection its supposed to come out green if you look at me...thats why....so are you going to come out the next day and call me out if you search me and i'm green?
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Re: Holiday Wars - After Party

Postby Malkamaniac on Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:18 pm

Troy Loney wrote:
Ok so I inspected you and if it fails, I would still know your something.

I'm able to see greens, and regular villagers, but the bosses(mafia) would fail? I would of done the same thing.


Because if i'm immune to inspection its supposed to come out green if you look at me...thats why....so are you going to come out the next day and call me out if you search me and i'm green?


I had no idea it would come out if your green. That's kinda unfair then for me, and would lead me to be your ally wouldn't it?
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Re: Holiday Wars - After Party

Postby Pavel Bure on Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:20 pm

Malkamaniac wrote:
Troy Loney wrote:
Ok so I inspected you and if it fails, I would still know your something.

I'm able to see greens, and regular villagers, but the bosses(mafia) would fail? I would of done the same thing.


Because if i'm immune to inspection its supposed to come out green if you look at me...thats why....so are you going to come out the next day and call me out if you search me and i'm green?


I had no idea it would come out if your green. That's kinda unfair then for me, and would lead me to be your ally wouldn't it?


That's the point haha.
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Re: Holiday Wars - After Party

Postby Malkamaniac on Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:21 pm

Well hows that fair then? If your the seer then you basically should call out every person that shows green because you wouldn't know?
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Re: Holiday Wars - After Party

Postby Troy Loney on Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:22 pm

Malkamaniac wrote:
Troy Loney wrote:
Ok so I inspected you and if it fails, I would still know your something.

I'm able to see greens, and regular villagers, but the bosses(mafia) would fail? I would of done the same thing.


Because if i'm immune to inspection its supposed to come out green if you look at me...thats why....so are you going to come out the next day and call me out if you search me and i'm green?


I had no idea it would come out if your green. That's kinda unfair then for me, and would lead me to be your ally wouldn't it?


Well...rules are rules...i didn't know what that inspection immunity meant exactly until slappy and pavel said a couple pages ago.

i originally thought that it meant the see would be just come back fail, so i didnt think it meant anything because you would still know that i had a role. But now knowing it came back godfather when it should have come back green...that was definitely a fail..and definitely changed the complexion of the game....so yeah, it wasn't the only reason i got killed, but i definitely would have lasted longer.
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Re: Holiday Wars - After Party

Postby tfrizz on Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:22 pm

Malkamaniac wrote:Well hows that fair then? If your the seer then you basically should call out every person that shows green because you wouldn't know?


That's just the way it is. Nobody knows the Godfather except the mafia.
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Re: Holiday Wars - After Party

Postby IrishEyes on Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:23 pm

Malkamaniac wrote:Well hows that fair then? If your the seer then you basically should call out every person that shows green because you wouldn't know?


The godfather comes back green. So if you investigate anyone that's mafia that isn't the Godfather, they'd come back red.
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Re: Holiday Wars - After Party

Postby Troy Loney on Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:24 pm

Malkamaniac wrote:Well hows that fair then? If your the seer then you basically should call out every person that shows green because you wouldn't know?



because of the 1/30 chance that you picked the godfather? If your being reasonable and your inspection turns up green, you go on the 90 or so percent chance that the person is just a plain villager.
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Re: Holiday Wars - After Party

Postby Kicksave on Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:25 pm

It was a mod accident. He was supposed to come back as just a regular villager.

Either way, I don't think it had that big of an effect on the game as this argument is leading on.
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Re: Holiday Wars - After Party

Postby Malkamaniac on Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:30 pm

Well either way, I get ya. I didn't even know that rule existed, I can see how it changed the game for sure.
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Re: Holiday Wars - After Party

Postby Troy Loney on Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:30 pm

Kicksave wrote:It was a mod accident. He was supposed to come back as just a regular villager.

Either way, I don't think it had that big of an effect on the game as this argument is leading on.


Well...like i said, there was a lot more to our loss than just malk calling me out...but to say it didn't affect the game in the slightest is just denial...
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Re: Holiday Wars - After Party

Postby Senka on Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:48 pm

I followed it and knew about the roles... it was real sweet to watch and hear what was taking place. I clear missed signups, but it ended up being a good thing with Finals week... Well done Mods/Participation.
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Re: Holiday Wars - After Party

Postby wallflower on Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:55 pm

Kicksave wrote:It was a mod accident. He was supposed to come back as just a regular villager.

Either way, I don't think it had that big of an effect on the game as this argument is leading on.

IMO, it doesn't matter if it's the normal rules - every game we've played here, the mods have put their own spin on things. If you and Azkar chose to do it the way you did, those were the rules for this game. The 'official' rules are just a guideline to build off as far as I'm concerned.

I think you guys did a good job. :thumb:
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Re: Holiday Wars - After Party

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:32 pm

my favorite part was when i died
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Re: Holiday Wars - After Party

Postby Corvidae on Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:45 pm

I was in a rush and I figured it out about an hour too late. Oh well, as KS mentioned live by the :scared: die by the :scared: .
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Re: Holiday Wars - After Party

Postby slappybrown on Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:46 pm

Letang Is The Truth wrote:my favorite part was when i died

this was a direct train to lulz town to me

i may be losing my mind, but i laughed for a good 20 seconds
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Re: Holiday Wars - After Party

Postby sdm5055 on Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:13 pm

wallflower wrote:
Kicksave wrote:It was a mod accident. He was supposed to come back as just a regular villager.

Either way, I don't think it had that big of an effect on the game as this argument is leading on.

IMO, it doesn't matter if it's the normal rules - every game we've played here, the mods have put their own spin on things. If you and Azkar chose to do it the way you did, those were the rules for this game. The 'official' rules are just a guideline to build off as far as I'm concerned.

I think you guys did a good job. :thumb:


agreed.. and agreed they did a great job

the only reason it was brought up though was because they said in the PMs for this game that the godfather wasn't researchable or whatever.

not a big deal in my mind

great job by the mods
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Re: Holiday Wars - After Party

Postby dagny on Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:36 pm

MWB wrote:
dagny wrote:I don't have time to read up, yet, as I have to go to work, but may I say: TWC = TOWN MVP!

THE WICKED CHILD WAS WICKED GOOD.


TWC was pretty helpful to us also. He pushed for sdm to get voted and sdm came out and was quickly voted off. He then voted for IE, which we needed to finish off the grinch side. Unfortunately for him and the village he was getting the guys from just one family and by that time it was too late.


The town's objective was to knock off mafioso. That's what he did. Thus, TOWN mvp.
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Re: Holiday Wars - After Party

Postby dagny on Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:57 pm

Juice wrote:In all honesty, I can't believe how often I am a role player.



...... and how often I am NOT. :evil:
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Re: Holiday Wars - After Party

Postby MWB on Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:11 am

dagny wrote:
MWB wrote:
dagny wrote:I don't have time to read up, yet, as I have to go to work, but may I say: TWC = TOWN MVP!

THE WICKED CHILD WAS WICKED GOOD.


TWC was pretty helpful to us also. He pushed for sdm to get voted and sdm came out and was quickly voted off. He then voted for IE, which we needed to finish off the grinch side. Unfortunately for him and the village he was getting the guys from just one family and by that time it was too late.


The town's objective was to knock off mafioso. That's what he did. Thus, TOWN mvp.


Not disputing that, just pointing out that he helped us also by pushing to get the opposing family members killed off.
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Re: Holiday Wars - After Party

Postby the wicked child on Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:24 am

MWB wrote:TWC was pretty helpful to us also. He pushed for sdm to get voted and sdm came out and was quickly voted off. He then voted for IE, which we needed to finish off the grinch side. Unfortunately for him and the village he was getting the guys from just one family and by that time it was too late.


the thing is, I was very suspicious of both you and sdm already... that was the reason I hesitated to vote for JC even when I was fairly sure he was bad.

When crayz posted some fairly minor thing about sdm and he reacted I knew we had one... and then confirmed it by placing a vote his way and getting the desired reaction again.

For some reason, I knew immediately when you voted for sdm that you were bad as well... and I figured Kicksave would get major lolz out of pitting 2 mafia masons against each other. It wasn't that hard to figure out npv was on your side from there.

CK was the only one I didn't have pegged "for sure", but he was #1 on my list of the remaining players. Given his posting style, I was 100% sure he was either bad or the doctor. I didn't bring his name up for that reason.... but at some point I concluded that c2i had to be the doctor because if it was a vet, the doctor would have been taken out like the other RPs (that weren't axed by the village)...

Before we took down IE, I considered pushing a vote for you instead to prevent the situation we had the last day, but I wasn't sure if anyone would go along with me or not. I was also at work on my phone and that makes it difficult to make long insightful posts like would have been necessary.

I will admit that in the first half of the game, i sucked and just went along with the crowd mostly; but at some point things started to click for me. we had wasted too many days early on though I guess.

I give you guys props though because you did a good job of blending in while the other family left tells left and right. You were worthy adversaries indeed.

I had a blast in this game. :thumb:
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Re: Holiday Wars - After Party

Postby wallflower on Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:37 am

dagny wrote:
Juice wrote:In all honesty, I can't believe how often I am a role player.



...... and how often I am NOT. :evil:

I would like to be a good RP at some point (preferably vig :pop: ). I've always been bad or just a regular villager.
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Re: Holiday Wars - After Party

Postby wallflower on Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:41 am

Also, if I didn't have a conscience, I could've helped the wicked child clean up in this game [though he did very well without my input :thumb: ]. I had cupkeeper & npv pegged for a while but didn't want to affect the outcome, so I kept it to myself when we were texting back and forth about the game.
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Re: Holiday Wars - After Party

Postby dagny on Sat Dec 19, 2009 1:04 am

Troy Loney wrote:
He was dead before you were voted for. The village went for dagny and I was the only one voting for you. Then it was the next round that people went for you.


Seriously...why are you arguing this?

Go back and look at the dagny vote and look at why people started to hesitate and vote for me...i came out a littel early because i was going to be off...but people started to see that malkamaniac was calling me out.


FWIW, I was convinced you were bad after LITT's role was revealed, and would've done everything I could to get you voted off, if I hadn't been killed before I woke up.

After LITT died, I was under the impression that his role WAS the seer, not some assistant. I looked at who he was gunning for and it was you. You were the most obvious vote after LITT, as far as I was concerned.
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Re: Holiday Wars - After Party

Postby the wicked child on Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:58 am

Sorry dags... we kinda went on a an angry mob revenge killing there... pitchforks and all. :D
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