The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

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Re: The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

Postby columbia on Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:38 pm

The dead are more present than the living.
Go figure.
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Re: The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

Postby MWB on Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:18 pm

Kind of like clue wars.
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Re: The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

Postby the wicked child on Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:26 pm

It might legitimately be time for another break, at least for involved games anyway. It's no fun when people just go through the motions.
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Re: The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

Postby MWB on Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:45 pm

Definitely frustrating. If it's part of a red game plan, that's one thing (and maybe that's the case this game). But when blues just don't participate, it sucks.
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Re: The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

Postby ExPatriatePen on Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:53 pm

Two days without power, I come back, check the Gettysburg thread and find out - I DIDN'T MISS ANYTTHING.

you people should be ashamed of yourself. I may have stick my own musket in my mouth and pulled the trigger, but at least I fired a shot! :)
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Re: The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

Postby bhaw on Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:09 pm

the wicked child wrote:It might legitimately be time for another break, at least for involved games anyway. It's no fun when people just go through the motions.


It just sucks for the mods b/c they put a lot of time and effort into coming up with rules and twists.
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Re: The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

Postby the wicked child on Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:49 pm

bhaw wrote:It just sucks for the mods b/c they put a lot of time and effort into coming up with rules and twists.

Agreed.
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Re: The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

Postby ExPatriatePen on Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:37 am

If we do the Rock n Roll Warz game, I have a proposal for how to solve the problem of players who don't post.

If you don't post at least once in a 48 hour period, it's akin to being found dead in your hotel room with a needle stuck in your arm.

Making that clear up front should keep slugs from signing up. :)
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Re: The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

Postby thehockeyguru on Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:40 am

ExPatriatePen wrote:If we do the Rock n Roll Warz game, I have a proposal for how to solve the problem of players who don't post.

If you don't post at least once in a 48 hour period, it's akin to being found dead in your hotel room with a needle stuck in your arm.

Making that clear up front should keep slugs from signing up. :)


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Re: The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

Postby newarenanow on Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:54 am

That is why I pick people like Rylan at the beginning, he posted last Tuesday and has posted just once since then. :pop:

It kills the game later and helps the reds.
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Re: The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

Postby redwill on Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:14 pm

Despite the lack of participation, this is shaping up to be a good end game. I haven't got a clue and am really looking forward to seeing it play out.

Now, if it just would...
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Re: The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

Postby Benny Fitz on Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:11 pm

newarenanow wrote:That is why I pick people like Rylan at the beginning, he posted last Tuesday and has posted just once since then. :pop:

It kills the game later and helps the reds.


I'm with you 100% on this. Not necessarily against Rylan per se, but just any of the non-talkers. It's garbage and so are any of the excuses (national weather disasters notwithstanding). I don't care for the strategy of not talking either. To me, it's just not how I'd want to win a game. That goes for being Red, Green, Blue, or any other color. I've said it before and I think it's worth repeating. This essence of this game is dialogue. If you sign up and don't talk, you only hurt the rest of us and water down the game. I echo the thoughts of the others that said they feel bad for the Mods that come up with these creative games in an attempt to shake things up keep us supplied with new and innovative challenges only to have their creativity dashed on the rocks of torpidity.

I love being blue. I've actually PM'd mods and asked to be blue in games (shameless I know). B/c that's where you don't know anything and get to try to crack the case with no help at all. To you, everyone is a liar and everyone is up to something. You can only rely on deductive reasoning, "tells", or anything else you may use to build your case. And quite honestly I'm fascinated by how often I'm wrong. Ala columbia when Krafster and MWB were Red and Kraft came out as the Angel after I did. All game I was gunning for columbia, but some how at the end, he saw through all the bs and still sided with me. I was blown away by his read. THAT's what I sign up for. And that's what Kraftster and I had in mind when we designed Clue Warz. Power to the blues.

I'm gonna get off my mini-soap box now but that's been buggin me for a while now. I can't stand quiet players who sign up and only ruin the game for the rest of us who do want to figure out whodunit.
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Re: The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

Postby thehockeyguru on Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:20 pm

There is a growing faction of players who will remain quiet for the first 2-3 sometimes even more days so they aren't voted off early and then start participating out of nowhere.
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Re: The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

Postby columbia on Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:20 pm

What Benny said.

It's even frustrating to be dead and watch a game stall out because people disappear.
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Re: The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

Postby Kraftster on Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:24 pm

columbia wrote:What Benny said.

It's even frustrating to be dead and watch a game stall out because people disappear.


This. I often feel like I'm bothered as a deadie more than players left in the game. :?
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Re: The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

Postby ExPatriatePen on Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:26 pm

Kraftster wrote:
columbia wrote:What Benny said.

It's even frustrating to be dead and watch a game stall out because people disappear.


This. I often feel like I'm bothered as a deadie more than players left in the game. :?


Yeah... it's like I want to just scream out... Godric is the red! Or Tifosi77 is the last remaining Green or something. Just to keep the game rolling. Or at least to get it over with so the suspense isn't killing me anymore :)

Of course it's a lot harder when you're a dead red cause you know what's what. :)
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Re: The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

Postby columbia on Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:28 pm

I wish that tifosi played Warz....he'd sear everyone. ;)
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Re: The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

Postby relantel on Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:34 pm

thehockeyguru wrote:There is a growing faction of players who will remain quiet for the first 2-3 sometimes even more days so they aren't voted off early and then start participating out of nowhere.


I got tired of being in this boat (most times by accident), and made an effort to have a greater presence throughout the game. Doesn't always keep one in the game though. :pop:
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Re: The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

Postby newarenanow on Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:36 pm

I don't mind people using quiet as a strategy, especially at the beginning. Especially if they post a couple of times to show they are paying attention.

The issue I have is when it's about half way through, or the numbers are dwindling, and they still do not participate. So votes get hung up, the game can't move forward, and when they do come, they have no idea what the hell is happening.

You don't have to follow the game and make it your life. People have lives and can't spend 100% of the time playing. But unless there is some crazy circumstance, or something pops up that you can't control, if you are going to sign up, at least be respectful and pay some attention, and participate when you need to instead of letting the game get held up, or come in and make an uninformed vote that screws up the game and ruins it for the people that have paid attention the entire time.

I screwed over one game at the end, but it was because may baby was born 4 weeks early and came out of nowhere!
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Re: The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

Postby Troy Loney on Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:37 pm

thehockeyguru wrote:There is a growing faction of players who will remain quiet for the first 2-3 sometimes even more days so they aren't voted off early and then start participating out of nowhere.


I can't start putting any pieces together until some reds start getting picked off. Add that to the fact that the village usually just ends up picking off the people that are talking more for subconscious reasons...people that are quiet are just out of people's consciousness.
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Re: The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

Postby newarenanow on Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:40 pm

And PS - if doublem ever signs up again, I think he should immediately be mod killed.

The one game he played, he was the vig, and about half way through, he decided to shoot all of the revealed green players, the cleared players and ruined the game for everyone.
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Re: The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

Postby redwill on Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:41 pm

Well said, Benny.

Part of the problem, though, is mods design games for 20+ players and there really are only about a dozen of us out here that get fully engaged. The others sign up and either forget or never really wanted to play in the first place. I'm not sure how to handle that.

Oh, and

Benny Fitz wrote:I don't care for the strategy of not talking either. To me, it's just not how I'd want to win a game.


This happened with me in Clue. I didn't expect to be away early on, and I REALLY felt bad. I PM'd nan and obhave that I should probably just lay low and not participate. But I couldn't do it. Like you said, I wouldn't want to win that way.
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Re: The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

Postby redwill on Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:46 pm

newarenanow wrote:And PS - if doublem ever signs up again, I think he should immediately be mod killed.

The one game he played, he was the vig, and about half way through, he decided to shoot all of the revealed green players, the cleared players and ruined the game for everyone.


But he played a good game in 1776 as an ISK. He shouldn't be completely thrown away because of one bad game. Granted, him in Beer Wars was a doozie of a fail...
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Re: The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

Postby newarenanow on Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:51 pm

redwill wrote:
newarenanow wrote:And PS - if doublem ever signs up again, I think he should immediately be mod killed.

The one game he played, he was the vig, and about half way through, he decided to shoot all of the revealed green players, the cleared players and ruined the game for everyone.


But he played a good game in 1776 as an ISK. He shouldn't be completely thrown away because of one bad game. Granted, him in Beer Wars was a doozie of a fail...


It wasn't a fail, it was on purpose.
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Re: The Battle of Gettysburg **Dead Thread**

Postby Benny Fitz on Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:53 pm

red - i think you did a fantastic job in clue warz. arguably saving the day because no one was listening to PS87 or MWB just yet. And obhave did the right thing too. She PM'd us and asked what we wanted her to do about being away for that week. That's how it's done.

and i get it that people have lives and things come up, but it's not like there is a LGP warz military draft and people get selected to play against their will. you signed up to play. so play.
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