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Re: Box Office Wars Game Thread

Postby Gaucho on Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:37 pm

How anticlimatic...
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Re: Box Office Wars Game Thread

Postby shafnutz05 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:37 pm

Kraftster wrote:Well, the successful klinger kill would seem to come about as close as you can get to confirming Hammer, I'd say, right?


My thoughts exactly.
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Re: Box Office Wars Game Thread

Postby shafnutz05 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:38 pm

My longer thoughts are the last comment on the previous page, just want to make sure they don't get missed.
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Re: Box Office Wars Game Thread

Postby TheHammer24 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:48 pm

My concern is that we still don't know how NAN died. I'm fine with this being Rel, but it means there are only two Reds.
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Re: Box Office Wars Game Thread

Postby Kraftster on Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:50 pm

For me it comes down to rel and hammer being the only two left not cleared by Gaucho. There's not much reason left to doubt Hammer and rel's been getting more and more suspicious the past couple of days. Perhaps feeling the squeeze of people being onto his ruse. I give you guys credit, I was really buying what rel was selling.
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Re: Box Office Wars Game Thread

Postby TheHammer24 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:51 pm

Oh. I'm an idiot - juice did those. I don't know what to make of the missed shots and rel's role claim though. Strange strategy. But it seems it just has to be Rel. If we are wrong, I have my role block which would give us a 50% chance of getting it.
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Re: Box Office Wars Game Thread

Postby shafnutz05 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:55 pm

I forgot you still had your role block....that makes a huge difference
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Re: Box Office Wars Game Thread

Postby Pavel Bure on Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:56 pm

Hammer check your PMs
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Re: Box Office Wars Game Thread

Postby shafnutz05 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:57 pm

TheHammer24 wrote:My concern is that we still don't know how NAN died. I'm fine with this being Rel, but it means there are only two Reds.


The three reds could theoretically be NAN, rel, and klinger
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Re: Box Office Wars Game Thread

Postby Kraftster on Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:57 pm

TheHammer24 wrote:Oh. I'm an idiot - juice did those. I don't know what to make of the missed shots and rel's role claim though. Strange strategy. But it seems it just has to be Rel. If we are wrong, I have my role block which would give us a 50% chance of getting it.


Right. I still can't figure out what rel's post claiming some deflection kill of nan was about. To me that seemed like trying to take credit for a red kill to assuage our concerns.

Given where things are at, I'd still like to hear from rel before casting my vote, but I have no problem voting for rel.
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Re: Box Office Wars Game Thread

Postby shafnutz05 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:01 pm

I noticed that relantel lashed out at Klinger and myself after the mason claim. If he is indeed red, maybe he wanted to put distance between himself and Klinger? Or he is just an independent....no idea
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Re: Box Office Wars Game Thread

Postby TheHammer24 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:03 pm

I Role Blocked Rel, and Slappy died. (This happened after the fact, as Pavel forgot). I don't don't know what to think about this.
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Re: Box Office Wars Game Thread

Postby shafnutz05 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:05 pm

TheHammer24 wrote:I Role Blocked Rel, and Slappy died. (This happened after the fact, as Pavel forgot). I don't don't know what to think about this.


Did Slappy die because Pavel overlooked your role block? Or because your role block wasn't considered?
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Re: Box Office Wars Game Thread

Postby shafnutz05 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:05 pm

Edit: I meant or did your role block of relantel not matter either way?
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Re: Box Office Wars Game Thread

Postby TheHammer24 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:07 pm

shafnutz05 wrote:Edit: I meant or did your role block of relantel not matter either way?

He started the day phase without receiving my PM. I told him I wanted to Role Block Rel. He said that the results would have been the same, Slappy dead, i.e. I used my Role Block on rel and slappy still died.
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Re: Box Office Wars Game Thread

Postby shafnutz05 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:07 pm

Oh....wow. Yeah, that is interesting
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Re: Box Office Wars Game Thread

Postby Kraftster on Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:11 pm

Well, I think that clears Hammer definitively. If he were independent or red, I don't think he would have called off the dogs on an almost certain kill. If he is and he would have the balls to do that, kudos to him.

For me this can only point at shaf. I can't really explain the mason aspect other than that primary roles were assigned and then masons were assigned and Pavel just kept it as two reds as (another) way of providing confusion. Shaf was also the most eager to lynch today and posted yesterday that we "HAVE TO kill relantel."

Wow. What a wild ride this game has been.
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Re: Box Office Wars Game Thread

Postby shafnutz05 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:25 pm

Funny....because Hammer's failed role block makes me think this points directly at Kraftster. My eagerness is hardly a damning trait...I went off on relantel before I was made aware of Hammer's failed role block.

Again, why in the world would where be two red masons (a)? Again, why in the WORLD would I just go out on a monstrous limb?

After Gaucho outed me as blue, I made a post letting everyone know my role, as well as the fact that Klinger was my partner. That would make absolutely zero sense for me to draw that much attention to both myself and my fellow red when there was no heat on us!!!

I'm honestly not sure where to go at this point. I was 100% convinced that relantel was it today, but now thehammer is saying his role claim had no effect.
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Re: Box Office Wars Game Thread

Postby Kraftster on Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:30 pm

shafnutz05 wrote:Funny....because Hammer's failed role block makes me think this points directly at Kraftster. My eagerness is hardly a damning trait...I went off on relantel before I was made aware of Hammer's failed role block.

Again, why in the world would where be two red masons (a)? Again, why in the WORLD would I just go out on a monstrous limb?

After Gaucho outed me as blue, I made a post letting everyone know my role, as well as the fact that Klinger was my partner. That would make absolutely zero sense for me to draw that much attention to both myself and my fellow red when there was no heat on us!!!

I'm honestly not sure where to go at this point. I was 100% convinced that relantel was it today, but now thehammer is saying his role claim had no effect.


There actually was a good bit of heat on klinger when you came out (I think even a couple votes) if I recall. I think it's a really good play, actually. Until this point, you were 100% cleared in my mind -- beyond even Gaucho's reported findings. The report of a red mason when either of you died would serve to confirm the role claimed by the other for the very reasons you are no relying upon.

I don't have a good answer for the design, but I feel like I've thought that to myself about 5 times this game.

I assume Hammer is accurately relaying the information he's been given by Pavel via PM. The only other possibility is that rel is immune from blocks. Would seem strange but so does the rest of his role? I think rel or shaf. Hammer for me is the only person totally cleared.
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Re: Box Office Wars Game Thread

Postby TheHammer24 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:31 pm

You've both been cleared as blue. This is so strange. Shaf was investigated way earlier, but there was nothing in the write up to indicate otherwise. I'm quite, quite confused now.
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Re: Box Office Wars Game Thread

Postby Pavel Bure on Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:45 pm

Also since this is the last day there is no deadline, just 3 to razzy
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Re: Box Office Wars Game Thread

Postby shafnutz05 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:09 pm

I completely understand how bizarre this info is.

I am keeping my vote on relantel. I have been on him the entire game, and I'm not going to let off now. I don't think the role block not working clears him in any way.
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Re: Box Office Wars Game Thread

Postby relantel on Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:11 pm

Hammer's block had no effect since I had no kill last night. Kills accumulated every odd night (1-3-5-7-etc). (posted this last day phase).

Which means it is either Kraftster or Shaf. And given the thread so far since the write up, I'd lead toward Shaf as the one to string up.`
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Re: Box Office Wars Game Thread

Postby TheHammer24 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:19 pm

I'm going to step away. It's between Shaf and Rel to me. No NASCAR spoilers please. Must DVR the race.
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Re: Box Office Wars Game Thread

Postby relantel on Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:22 pm

shafnutz05 wrote:I completely understand how bizarre this info is.

I am keeping my vote on relantel. I have been on him the entire game, and I'm not going to let off now. I don't think the role block not working clears him in any way.

This may seal it.

If there were two reds left, game would be over. Only one is left. Means that one made last night's kill. Roleblock would have confirmed it was not my shot had I had a shot to make. As it were, my not having a shot to make confirms I am not the red who killed slappy.
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