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CBear3 wrote:Cross referencing votes:
Ulf started a vote on canaan day 1 for not voting for shad.
WK, obhave, and myself jumped on it while it was still close.
Rylan, myself, and redwill are early on the shaf vote on day 2.
So that leaves me the late voters on shaf after it was clear he was going down:
TL, canaan, MWB, WK (cleared above), nan
Personally I'd go with canaan for not following the random on day 1.




obhave wrote:redwill jumped on the vote right after shaf came out as vig? Even more reason to vote for him since he was probably in on the plan from the beginning knowing it would fail


newarenanow wrote:obhave wrote:redwill jumped on the vote right after shaf came out as vig? Even more reason to vote for him since he was probably in on the plan from the beginning knowing it would fail
And he was the 3rd person on a vote!

canaan wrote:ulf starting a vote on a blue on day 1 for not voting for a guy that later becomes known to be a red and hes somehow cleared?

obhave wrote:redwill jumped on the vote right after shaf came out as vig? Even more reason to vote for him since he was probably in on the plan from the beginning knowing it would fail

redwill wrote:obhave wrote:redwill jumped on the vote right after shaf came out as vig? Even more reason to vote for him since he was probably in on the plan from the beginning knowing it would fail
Even more reason!!

CBear3 wrote:canaan wrote:ulf starting a vote on a blue on day 1 for not voting for a guy that later becomes known to be a red and hes somehow cleared?
True, a bit of a stretch. And I was originally going to put ulf in my possible baddie list (mainly because if red #1 was going down in flames, wouldn't red #2 try to lay low, and ulf hasn't posted since day 1). When I went back and saw he disapproved of you not following a random who turned out to be red I slid him to my list of people I wouldn't suspect at the moment.
I suppose cleared sounds awfully definite, when really its a fluid description. Just people who I think are less likely due to their actions.
But you're telling me it doesn't look suspicious to ignore a random on a guy who turns out red. Don't know your playing style, but after the last games debacle trying to get a lynch I'd think we would have hopped right on the bandwagon.

obhave wrote:redwill jumped on the vote right after shaf came out as vig? Even more reason to vote for him since he was probably in on the plan from the beginning knowing it would fail

obhave wrote:redwill wrote:Even more reason!!
Stop agreeing with me

CBear3 wrote:Arbitrary yes, that's why its just my opinion.
Canaan is the fourth vote on day 1.. Rylan's joke vote on obhave, Shaf as WK's random, canaan on PB (looks like an avoidance of a vote on shaf), and then ulf on canaan for not voting on shaf. When I wrote the summary the first time I listed the people that jumped on the shaf vote, not the canaan vote (sorry, that was confusing). So a vote for canaan (for not voting on shaf) and a vote for shaf makes somebody less suspicious.
Early votes on shaf were Rylan, myself, and redwill. Rylan and I by luck, redwill right after shaf came out as the vig. Then there's a lull to debate whether to believe Shaf or not. Everything after that is what I'd consider a late vote.
That's how I get to my list of people that haven't done anything to clear themselves yet.



MWB wrote:Ok, so the people who voted for shaf after he came out as the big and ultimately decided he was bad based on what was presented are "late" and "suspicious."

CBear3 wrote:Personally I'd go with canaan for not following the random on day 1.
obhave wrote:WK was cleared?
Willie Kool wrote:4 - PB (shad, canaan, NAN, obhave)
3 - shad (WK, PB, CBear)
1 - canaan (ulf)
1- obhave (rylan)
1- nan (redwill)
You can still switch back and put shad out...

redwill wrote:obhave wrote:redwill wrote:Even more reason!!
Stop agreeing with me :lol:
I'm not really agreeing with you. I'm sarcastically suggesting that you have no reason to start with, yet claim to have even more reason.


Willie Kool wrote:CBear3 wrote:Personally I'd go with canaan for not following the random on day 1.
This and his current vote for MWB have him at the top of my list as well.obhave wrote:WK was cleared?
If you don't think I'm clear after pushing so hard on shaf day 1, including a last minute plea for you to switch back:Willie Kool wrote:4 - PB (shad, canaan, NAN, obhave)
3 - shad (WK, PB, CBear)
1 - canaan (ulf)
1- obhave (rylan)
1- nan (redwill)
You can still switch back and put shad out...
And then wanting to wait after his role claim, I don't know what to say.

CBear3 wrote:MWB wrote:Ok, so the people who voted for shaf after he came out as the big and ultimately decided he was bad based on what was presented are "late" and "suspicious."
Pretty much. A red wouldn't have gotten in on that vote early, and numbers pretty much guarantee there's a red on that list. The explanations for the five late votes is either they're a red trying to pile on and hide, or they took their time to deliberate on the case against shaf. The case for the first three doesn't seem to me to indicate the possibility of being a red.


Willie Kool wrote:CBear3 wrote:Personally I'd go with canaan for not following the random on day 1.
This and his current vote for MWB have him at the top of my list as well.

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