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positive_pens_fan wrote:the problem is nobody knows what bob casey stands for because he doesnt take a stand on anything. furthermore, the only issues that he does take a stand on are ones that senator santorum forces upon him. bob casey is a man running on a name and anti-santorum sentiments. he is a suit without known beliefs. i am interested, for those of you who will be voting for bob casey....tell me why without referring to senator santorum.
positive_pens_fan wrote:voting against president bush surely didnt work. which is what a good amount of people who voted for kerry did.
ExPatriatePen wrote:I have a high level of respect for you Draftnik, However, in the early/mid 90's I lived in Hopewell and spent Mon thru Fri on the road (Mostly in the DC area). My family was back in Hopewell.
You're not implying that in my effort to provide for my family I wasn't a good husband or parent are you?
Rick campaigned on an issue (Walgrens absenteeism) agressively (I know, I was there with Rick knocking on HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of doors with this message) yet within years, he was doing the same thing!
You'd think someone who would make an issue a keystone of their campaign would at least have the dignity and ethics not to do the same thing. In fact, can you believe him now or trust him not to change positions on any of his current beliefs when he did that?
I think you and I both dropped out of politics for similar reasons though. Its a dirty shady business that I just couldn't be associated with.
By the way... what do you call a busload of politicians at the bottom of the ocean?
Answer: A good start!
positive_pens_fan wrote:voting against president bush surely didnt work. which is what a good amount of people who voted for kerry did.
SportsFan wrote:Santorum is jsut trying to get votes, he is soo far nehind, like 15% to Casey.
Anyone remember the whole charter school incident with him? Or the comments he made about Katrina?
The guy is a total moron.
DayWalker wrote:SportsFan wrote:Santorum is jsut trying to get votes, he is soo far nehind, like 15% to Casey.
Anyone remember the whole charter school incident with him? Or the comments he made about Katrina?
The guy is a total moron.
I dunno...
I don't know many "total morons" who worked for Kirkpatrick & Lockhart.
HomerPenguin wrote:DayWalker wrote:SportsFan wrote:Santorum is jsut trying to get votes, he is soo far nehind, like 15% to Casey.
Anyone remember the whole charter school incident with him? Or the comments he made about Katrina?
The guy is a total moron.
I dunno...
I don't know many "total morons" who worked for Kirkpatrick & Lockhart.
LOL, you're right, he's a genius. I bet he's working on a cure for cancer in his spare time. It certainly takes a lot of brains to bash queers and bully DC lobbying interests into hiring your cronies, which are the only two things he's done in 12 years as far as I can see. Oh, right, he "fixed" Medicare. "Fixed" it so well that it's going to go bust in 2020. That's some record he can run on.
DayWalker wrote:Secondly, bashing queers? Care to cite the statements that "bash queers?" Because he doesn't believe that the government should be forced to recognize gay marriage?
Tomas wrote:DayWalker wrote:Secondly, bashing queers? Care to cite the statements that "bash queers?" Because he doesn't believe that the government should be forced to recognize gay marriage?
Well, I have no problem with Santority. I have a problem with Santoral acts.
Tikkanen wrote:The guy couldn't be more of a *****bag unless he had a neon sign around his neck, flav-style, that flashed "*****" then "bag" then "*****bag!" alternately.DayWalker wrote:Secondly, bashing queers? Care to cite the statements that "bash queers?" Because he doesn't believe that the government should be forced to recognize gay marriage? John Kerry doesn't either. Neither does Howard Dean. Your point?
The difference is that neither Dean nor Kerry has equated homosexuals with beastiality. Santorum has. He
Perhaps you should read this...
http://www.felbers.net/fa/2005/07/13/gu ... -santorum/
and this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santorum_controversy
Really, the guy said that homosexual relations are killing the "American Family", and said that sodomy is equal to man-on-dog. How is that not bashing queers?
I have several friends that are gay, and my girlfriend has mostly gay friends, and it's absolutely ridiculous that this ******* would want to tell them what they can and can't do within the privacy of their own homes because of what he believes is a "family". Don't even get me started on his women's rights/feminism BS including abortion. Like some ***** in a suit that is walking around with a work of fiction, yes, the bible is fiction, in his hand should be able to tell a woman what she should do for a career and with her own body? That is BS. The guy is a PSYCHO.
Tikkanen wrote:My point is that he is TRYING to force his views on others, and THAT is the most egregeous of his wrongdoings.
Tikkanen wrote:Read it. Believe it. Learn it. And respect it.
Tikkanen wrote:The guy couldn't be more of a *****bag unless he had a neon sign around his neck, flav-style, that flashed "*****" then "bag" then "*****bag!" alternately.DayWalker wrote:Secondly, bashing queers? Care to cite the statements that "bash queers?" Because he doesn't believe that the government should be forced to recognize gay marriage? John Kerry doesn't either. Neither does Howard Dean. Your point?
The difference is that neither Dean nor Kerry has equated homosexuals with beastiality. Santorum has. He
Perhaps you should read this...
http://www.felbers.net/fa/2005/07/13/gu ... -santorum/
and this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santorum_controversy
Really, the guy said that homosexual relations are killing the "American Family", and said that sodomy is equal to man-on-dog. How is that not bashing queers?
I have several friends that are gay, and my girlfriend has mostly gay friends, and it's absolutely ridiculous that this ******* would want to tell them what they can and can't do within the privacy of their own homes because of what he believes is a "family". Don't even get me started on his women's rights/feminism BS including abortion. Like some ***** in a suit that is walking around with a work of fiction, yes, the bible is fiction, in his hand should be able to tell a woman what she should do for a career and with her own body? That is BS. The guy is a PSYCHO.
Zscout wrote:"The notion that college education is a cost-effective way to help poor, low-skill, unmarried mothers with high school diplomas or GEDs move up the economic ladder is just wrong."
--Arguing that poor, unwed mothers don't really need college educations. It Takes a Family, Pg. 138, July 2005.
"It’s amazing that so many kids turn out to be fairly normal, considering the weird socialization they get in public schools."
--On his belief that public schools are weird. It Takes a Family, Pg. 386, July 2005.
"In this case, what we're talking about, basically, is priests who were having sexual relations with post-pubescent men. We're not talking about priests with 3-year-olds, or 5-year-olds. We're talking about a basic homosexual relationship. Which, again, according to the world view sense is a perfectly fine relationship as long as it's consensual between people. If you view the world that way, and you say that's fine, you would assume that you would see more of it."
--Defending Catholic Priests who molested children.
"It is startling that those in the media and academia appear most disturbed by this aberrant behavior, since they have zealously promoted moral relativism by sanctioning "private" moral matters such as alternative lifestyles. Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture. When the culture is sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse for this scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm."
--Blaming liberals for Catholic Priests molesting children.
Tikkanen wrote:DrBoni wrote:See...
This is exactly the problem. Those are his beliefs, and a lot of people happen to agree with him. You may disagree with him but you say he's psycho because he doesn't see the world the way you do? Well, that just goes back to my original point.
I don't persecute gays. However, I don't see how it's crazy to compare it to bestiality or polygamy. Simply based on the fact that gay marriage is not even close to the insitution that is and has always been recognized by this country. Yes, we've changed a lot of things since then (i.e. slavery) but do you see us ratifying our customs to allow either of those two practices? Well, some people feel the same way about homosexuality and I'm not about to tell them that they're wrong.![]()
Uh, but you're missing my point. My point is that he is TRYING to force his views on others, and THAT is the most egregeous of his wrongdoings. I could give two craps if he or you or anyone on this board agrees with me, the point is that I'm not sitting here telling someone what they should or can believe. I'm simply pointing out that voting for someone based solely on the fact that he thinks a new arena would be a good idea is completely ridiculous as well. A monkey could sign out that he feels the arena would be a good idea. I'm pointing out the ridiculous beliefs of a man that is AN ELECTED FRIGGIN' OFFICIAL. HE IS IN CHARGE OF SOME THINGS. Do you not understand that?
As for your "I don't see how it's that ridiculous comparing it to beastiality or polygamy" is possibly the most ignorant, sexist, and moronic statement that I've read next to Santorum's. How can you actually sit there and type that you think 2 men having an intimate relationship together is comparable to someone taking a dog or a goat or whatever? Are you sick in the head? It's a friggin' animal man. AN ANIMAL. And polygamy is, well, actually something most every other creature on this planet does...so that's a ridiculous comparison too. I will sit here and tell someone else what to believe on this occasion...BEASTIALITY AND HOMOSEXUALITY ARE NOT EVEN COMPARABLE. Read it. Believe it. Learn it. And respect it.
I can't friggin' believe you wrote that...
Oh, and by the way, brainiac, by saying that you don't see how it's ridiculous, you just persecuted the gays. So there goes that "I don't persecute gays" statement of yours, eh?
DayWalker wrote:And surely you will take the time here to prove that the Bible is fiction. That would be entertaining to behold...
"A person could piss against a tree, he could piss on his mother, he could piss on his own breeches, and get off, but he must not piss against the wall -- that would be going quite too far. The origin of the divine prejudice against this humble crime is not stated; but we know that the prejudice was very strong -- so strong that nothing but a wholesale massacre of the people inhabiting the region where the wall was defiled could satisfy the Deity." -- Mark Twain, Letters from the Earth
Tikkanen wrote:Do everyone a favor and stay home on election day if all you're going to vote on is ONE issue - an arena for a sports team, without looking at the ramifications that voting for an individual based on that lone issue will bear.
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