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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:16 am

i think stannis may be the most boring character ever
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby the wicked child on Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:28 am

Trying to remember... did the show previously make mention of his daughter's greyscale? I don't recall.

And yeah, Stannis is... well, Stannis. The characters around him are a lot more interesting than he is (thankfully).
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby stopper40 on Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:34 am

Spangler wrote:Fantastic episode. Lot's of character development happening setting up what happens next. I liked seeing Stannis the family man, and seeing more as to why Davos is likable. Hopefully seeing a broken Jamie's insight into why he's a kingslayer is enough to change people opinion about him.

Last season, I was constantly distracted by alterations and the pacing that I didn't enjoy the episodes as much until late in the season. This time, I've really really enjoyed each episode, and haven't had many complaints at all.



I thought the scene in the tub with Jamie and Brienne was amazing
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby canaan on Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:56 am

that scene just goes to show you to what level the people of westeros are stuck in their ways. Jamie tells Brienne, one of the most sensible people that the show has shown thus far, about the reasoning behind what he did--he killed a merciless, maniacal king after pleading for his surrender, and when he falls ill, she refers to him as "King Slayer" again.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby SolidSnake on Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:31 am

What was wrong with Stannis's daughter's face?
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby the wicked child on Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:10 pm

She has greyscale. Don't think they've mentioned it yet on the show. Not sure if the description constitutes a spoiler or not.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby columbia on Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:11 pm

Note the appropriate spelling of "grey." :pop:
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby canaan on Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:00 pm

the wicked child wrote:She has greyscale. Don't think they've mentioned it yet on the show. Not sure if the description constitutes a spoiler or not.

is greyscale anything like porridge plague?

edit: this was a funny, btw
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby the wicked child on Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:59 pm

Greyscale:
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Greyscale is a disease that can leave flesh stiff and dead and the skin cracked and flaking, mottled black and grey and stone-like to the touch. The tongue and lips turn to stone. It generally affects children especially in cold damp climates. The victims are disfigured but could not be touched by the rarer mortal form of the affliction or the grey plague. The wildlings consider people who survive Greyscale unclean.


I was just going to post a link, but it lists people known to be infected, and this is a spoiler of sorts for later on, so I opted not to.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby Gaucho on Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:08 pm

columbia wrote:Maybe John Snow won't be so brooding, now that he's gotten some action?


"I don't want to ever leave this cave, Jon Snow" seemed a little over the top, though.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby columbia on Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:23 pm

I don't imagine GRRM is particularly nimble, when it comes to sultry conversations (in his own life).
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby SolidSnake on Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:29 pm

the wicked child wrote:Greyscale:
Spoiler:
Greyscale is a disease that can leave flesh stiff and dead and the skin cracked and flaking, mottled black and grey and stone-like to the touch. The tongue and lips turn to stone. It generally affects children especially in cold damp climates. The victims are disfigured but could not be touched by the rarer mortal form of the affliction or the grey plague. The wildlings consider people who survive Greyscale unclean.


I was just going to post a link, but it lists people known to be infected, and this is a spoiler of sorts for later on, so I opted not to.

Thanks :thumb:
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby canaan on Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:31 pm

Gaucho wrote:
columbia wrote:Maybe John Snow won't be so brooding, now that he's gotten some action?


"I don't want to ever leave this cave, Jon Snow" seemed a little over the top, though.

she said similar things in the book, no?
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby Gaucho on Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:37 pm

canaan wrote:
Gaucho wrote:
columbia wrote:Maybe John Snow won't be so brooding, now that he's gotten some action?


"I don't want to ever leave this cave, Jon Snow" seemed a little over the top, though.

she said similar things in the book, no?


I didn't read the books, so I don't know. But it was inevitable they'd get it on the moment they met.

Bah, maybe I'm just cynical. Staying in that cave forever would make for an awkward storyline, though.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby Godric on Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:42 pm

Gaucho wrote:
canaan wrote:
Gaucho wrote:
columbia wrote:Maybe John Snow won't be so brooding, now that he's gotten some action?


"I don't want to ever leave this cave, Jon Snow" seemed a little over the top, though.

she said similar things in the book, no?


I didn't read the books, so I don't know. But it was inevitable they'd get it on the moment they met.

Bah, maybe I'm just cynical. Staying in that cave forever would make for an awkward storyline, though.


Are you saying that the line "I don't want to ever leave this cave" is too sappy for her character? I'd agree that the transition... if thats the direction they wanted her character to go was poor.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby Spangler on Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:07 pm

She said the exact same thing in the book, and it made more sense there. It's been awhile since I read the book, but when Jon and her were in the cave, they were more isolated from the rest of the group. There were tunnels in the mountain that stretched a long way, so they could have run off together and probably not have been found by anyone.

The show didn't have the same impact because everyone was like 30 feet from the entrance of the cave.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby Godric on Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:28 pm

Spangler wrote:She said the exact same thing in the book, and it made more sense there. It's been awhile since I read the book, but when Jon and her were in the cave, they were more isolated from the rest of the group. There were tunnels in the mountain that stretched a long way, so they could have run off together and probably not have been found by anyone.

The show didn't have the same impact because everyone was like 30 feet from the entrance of the cave.


Ah, thanks for this :thumb:
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby canaan on Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:37 pm

I think you are assuming the depth of her character too abruptly. Her tv character reminds me of chani from dune so far.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:51 pm

Just watched most recent episode. Liked it a lot but stannis is still lame as butt
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby Willie Kool on Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:16 pm

Gaucho wrote:
canaan wrote:
Gaucho wrote:
columbia wrote:Maybe John Snow won't be so brooding, now that he's gotten some action?


"I don't want to ever leave this cave, Jon Snow" seemed a little over the top, though.

she said similar things in the book, no?


I didn't read the books, so I don't know. But it was inevitable they'd get it on the moment they met.

Bah, maybe I'm just cynical. Staying in that cave forever would make for an awkward storyline, though.

I thought it was a great line, perfectly emphasizing her awareness of the magical but fleeting nature of the moment. White walkers, Crows, and the coming Winter wait outside while they make love in a hot spring. She had just experienced "That thing you did, with your mouth?" for the first time. Yeah, she probably would like to stay in that cave forever. And if I were Jon, I'd be tempted to hold her to it.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby Firebird on Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:44 pm

I couldn't figure out why the Army wasn't making camp in the Spring instead of the cold outside???
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby Idoit40fans on Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:47 am

Its not gonna be fun going back outside in damp clothes.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby eddysnake on Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:54 am

Idoit40fans wrote:Its not gonna be fun going back outside in damp clothes.


if they were smart, they would change the story up and just have her stay in the cave for the rest of series without clothes fighting cave trolls or something like that.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby Idoit40fans on Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:02 am

Jon Snow is my favorite character, but he would be better if the rest of that story line was just him having adult bedtime in the cave.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby eddysnake on Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:20 am

Idoit40fans wrote:Jon Snow is my favorite character, but he would be better if the rest of that story line was just him having adult bedtime in the cave.


spinoff show?
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