shmenguin wrote:I have serious doubts that they'd advance the show past the books. The end of season 7 will be the end of book 6.
I completely disagree. Martin has shared the outline of everything with the writers. HBO supposedly wants 7 seasons, and they aren't going to just stop without finishing the story to appease Martin.
They are already going to be through all/most of some of the characters' book story lines by the end of this season... so they are going to start getting into new material next season already. I expect them to heavily trim AFFC/ADWD and basically finish them out by the end of season, probably getting into at LEAST the material that was planned for ADWD and pushed to the beginning of TWOW. They could drag things out to give Martin time... and that would be suicide for the show, so don't count on it.
There is zero chance of HBO taking a year off to give Martin time to finish the books. There's not even any logical reason to suggest that it would matter given Martin's inability to get books out within any kind of reasonable time frame. It's not feasible from a show standpoint anyway... they are already going to have problems when their kid actors are in their 20s by season 7 (assuming they are still alive, of course).
I think we will ultimately get a "watered down"/streamlined version of everything that is left... and I am fine with it. If Martin ever finishes the books, we can spend a thousand pages reading about the fine details of every meal and each and every sigil that appears in a room, and fill in the fine details.
I'm not even convinced that martin will ever finish the books, to be honest.
IMO, the ONLY way the show doesn't finish the story before him is if one of two things occur:
1. Martin has really been writing both books in conjunction, and that is why it is taking so long (this is wishful thinking, IMO)
2. Martin successfully sues HBO to stop them from finishing his story (also unlikely - if Martin had any ground there, he wouldn't have given D&D the ending).
Martin has been talking about the Dunk and Egg stuff and what not, but that is a pipe dream, IMO. TV shows do not stop and have prequel seasons in the middle of their run. (I also don't believe this would be very popular outside of some of the book fans. People tuning in for Danerys, Tyrion, etc would b tuning out in droves. I don't even give a crap about that.)
It is possible if there is too much material that is deemed necessary remaining that the potential eighth season floated by Benioff before he backtracked and claimed the plan was always seven because seven kingdoms, the seven, etc. could come to fruition, but that seems like a longshot at this point, IMO. In that case, MAYBE he gets the 7th book out before that season airs, but I am still skeptical.
At the end of the day, this is HBO's big moneymaker, and is currently hugely popular. It is also super expensive. They aren't going to throw it away by spending 3 seasons on AFFC/ADWD, taking a year off, or doing prequel seasons. The way they are harping on the 7 number in interviews, we will get 7 seasons, with some version of the events Martin has laid out for D&D.
If something wacky happens and it doesn't go down that way, I'll eat crow, but it is not likely, IMO.