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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby the wicked child on Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:06 am

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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby shmenguin on Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:37 pm

Word is that there's no Bran (and thusly Hodor) in season 5.

Weird. They aren't even caught up to the book yet.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby Hockeynut! on Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:40 pm

That's totally fine with me. Plus if they drop Bran from this season, they can recast the role. That actor's way too old.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby DelPen on Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:45 pm

shmenguin wrote:Word is that there's no Bran (and thusly Hodor) in season 5.

Weird. They aren't even caught up to the book yet.


Spoiler:
Aren't they half way throw Dance in the show? He just gets to the three eyed crow and starts tapping into the trees at the end, not really much left to do unless you invent more stuff. I'm thinking this is all a plot device anyways to give flashbacks and still stay in the POV format.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby Spangler on Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:49 pm

Bran's actor is starting to get as tall as Hodor. I noticed they had to get creative with how he's transported.

I don't know if they have to recast him really. The show has taken years to progress the story, so it's almost like the events happen over multiple years (which they don't). The same thing is happening with Aria, and there is no way they are recasting her. I think there is literally no one else who could play her as well as Macy.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby DelPen on Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:51 pm

Unless Maisy Williams becomes a giant her character will be fine and there are things they can logically do to age her that would actually keep with her character coming up.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby the wicked child on Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:53 pm

I would rather see characters left out than to see them try to invent stuff for them to do. Bran's story really isn't all that interesting atm anyway.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby Rocco on Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:25 pm

shmenguin wrote:Word is that there's no Bran (and thusly Hodor) in season 5.

Weird. They aren't even caught up to the book yet.


There isn't a whole lot left in that arc unless they start going into stuff GRRM hasn't yet written.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby Pavel Bure on Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:20 am

Show watcher here, just witnessed Joffery's death. I've seen a lot of "I tried to read the books" etc. and can say that after talking with a friend I will never read them. They sound like a Girl With The Dragon Tattoo redux in terms of needless droning on about detail. I don't need to know that the table had pheasant, turkey, cranberry marmalade, bread baked almost to the point of burning but not quite, etc. for multiple pages. That's not good writing that's digression.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby PensFanInDC on Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:23 am

I read the first 4. I won't read another for the same reason. The show is great.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby shafnutz05 on Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:28 am

I am re-reading Dance with Dragons because I forgot much of the book and want to scan for clues. Definitely don't see the needless detail in this read
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby PensFanInDC on Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:29 am

I've heard that is much better. Ill stick to tower of the hand though.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby Idoit40fans on Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:39 am

I heard about all of the endless detail before reading them and had no problem with it. There are entire chapters i dont care for, but thats the worst of it.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby DelPen on Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:37 am

Theres almost nothing wrong with Storm of Swords. Feast for Crows is as bad though as SoS is great.

I would hope the reason he goes on about the food and extravagance is how bad things get as the war rages on. It gets to the point when they, gasp, can't get Cersei exactly what she wants and she needs to settle on something else.

Or the guy likes food.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby the wicked child on Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:54 am

In general, ADWD is much better than AFFC. However, there are some things that irk me.
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The stories I was most interested in before I read it were Tyrion, Dany and Jon, all of which were absent from AFFC (well, Jon was in a chapter or two w/ Sam before he leaves for the Citadel). However, their stories were all kind of bogged down in one way or another and much less than I had hoped. Tyrion wandering around aimlessly asking where whores go, Jon in over his head as LC, and of course the infamous Meereenese Knot. I will at least say that when I did the "Ball of Beasts" read through, I hated these less since I didn't have expectations.

The major thing though: his editor made him remove some content so that every story line ended on a cliffhanger of sorts. Every. damn. one. This wouldn't be a big deal if it didn't take him 20 years between books.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby Pavel Bure on Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:04 am

DelPen wrote:Theres almost nothing wrong with Storm of Swords. Feast for Crows is as bad though as SoS is great.

I would hope the reason he goes on about the food and extravagance is how bad things get as the war rages on. It gets to the point when they, gasp, can't get Cersei exactly what she wants and she needs to settle on something else.

Or the guy likes food.

Even the description of the garb that Joffrey wears was another example I heard covered a couple pages. We get it, he's rich, he wears fancy clothes. Just like the food, we get it, it's a feast.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby Gaucho on Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:04 am

Maybe Martin read too much Homer. The Greek, not the dude from Springfield.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby newarenanow on Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:04 am

I'm on page 500 of Feast for Crows. While there is some dragging out, I don't think it is that bad. I've actually enjoyed the book.

Storm of Swords is by far the best book out of all of them so far.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby shmenguin on Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:45 am

Rocco wrote:
shmenguin wrote:Word is that there's no Bran (and thusly Hodor) in season 5.

Weird. They aren't even caught up to the book yet.


There isn't a whole lot left in that arc unless they start going into stuff GRRM hasn't yet written.


that's why i'm surprised they didn't just make his character current. skip the knight's watch kidnapping, get him to the tree earlier in the season and finish out his story to where it is in the book.

then again, it's bran. so who cares what they do.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby blackjack68 on Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:27 am

Does anyone think there is more to the Bran story?

Spoiler:
Or is he left to a life of being melded with the tree and that's the end for him?


Not sure that needed a spoiler, but playing it safe.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby newarenanow on Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:32 am

blackjack68 wrote:Does anyone think there is more to the Bran story?

Spoiler:
Or is he left to a life of being melded with the tree and that's the end for him?


Not sure that needed a spoiler, but playing it safe.


Spoiler:
I think Hordor ate him and they both died.
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby blackjack68 on Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:35 am

newarenanow wrote:
blackjack68 wrote:Does anyone think there is more to the Bran story?

Spoiler:
Or is he left to a life of being melded with the tree and that's the end for him?


Not sure that needed a spoiler, but playing it safe.


Spoiler:
I think Hordor ate him and they both died.


Spoiler:
Hodor ate a bad vegetable and it killed him?

Or did he do it because the maester told him he didn't have enough Bran in his diet?
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby Spangler on Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:05 pm

blackjack68 wrote:
newarenanow wrote:
blackjack68 wrote:Does anyone think there is more to the Bran story?

Spoiler:
Or is he left to a life of being melded with the tree and that's the end for him?


Not sure that needed a spoiler, but playing it safe.


Spoiler:
I think Hordor ate him and they both died.


Spoiler:
Hodor ate a bad vegetable and it killed him?

Or did he do it because the maester told him he didn't have enough Bran in his diet?


8-)
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Re: George R.R. Martin

Postby the wicked child on Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:14 am

Supposedly the actor that plays Bran confirmed that he will be in Season 5. So Bran, but not Hodor I guess. He doesn't really need to go anywhere at this point, so I guess that doesn't matter.

I'd be lying if I said I didnt like it better when Bran wasn't appearing though. ;)
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