meecrofilm wrote:eddysnake wrote:I thought most of the characters were 2 dimensional and would just pop in to move the story along (especially Brad Pitts Gandalf - Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth day, at dawn look to the east)
That gave me a good laugh.
I think I liked it a little more than you did (still not a huge huge fan), but also share many of your complaints.
There’s a difference between an “unflinching” look at something and an unflinching look at a person desperately trying to project “unflinching.” 12 Years a Slave is often upsetting for all the wrong reasons. It relegates atrocities to the level of camera tricks.
There’s a mean-spiritedness to the whole endeavor, and not in a gleeful, punky sort of way. I reject the idea that because slavery was cruel, that making a movie about it should be an act of unrelenting cruelty. Because it’s about a serious subject I should hate watching it? That makes it less effective. Art isn’t owed an audience.
Troy Loney wrote:I understand what you're saying and the basis of your criticism. I think they were trying their best to project the experience of violence and dehumanization that were foundations of slavery, and if I didn't want to see that, I wouldn't have seen a modern movie about slavery.
blackjack68 wrote:Django Unchained was a better film about the brutality of slavery. Though a bit cartoonish at times.
Somewhat political statement: (Don't click if you are only here for Movie talk.)Spoiler:My ancestors weren't even here during the slavery years, so I refuse to be manipulated or be made to feel "guilty" by these types of films.
White guilt is for suckers.
meecrofilm wrote:Troy Loney wrote:I understand what you're saying and the basis of your criticism. I think they were trying their best to project the experience of violence and dehumanization that were foundations of slavery, and if I didn't want to see that, I wouldn't have seen a modern movie about slavery.
I didn't have a problem with that stuff actually. My main qualm was probably how they handled the passage of time. Why not just call it "An Indeterminable Amount of Time A Slave?" It's really tough to track main character development when you don't know what's happening when (aside from singing a spiritual, which, again, when is this taking place?).
Also, as I've said earlier, I didn't like the point at which the movie ended (plus his "goodbye wave" rubbed me the wrong way, even though that wasn't the intention).
Froggy wrote:Captain America: The Winter Soldier is EASILY the best of the marvel movies. It's up there with The Dark Knight in terms of quality.
eddysnake wrote:Froggy wrote:Captain America: The Winter Soldier is EASILY the best of the marvel movies. It's up there with The Dark Knight in terms of quality.
good to hear, I'm excited for this one (even though I thought the first was pretty terrible after about 1/4 of the way through)
Troy Loney wrote:Mean Streets, Five Easy Pieces and Run Lola Run is my movie list for the weekend.
pittsoccer33 wrote:I thought Captain was very good. It works well because its a timely Snowden era conspiracy movie that just happens to have a Marvel character in it.
For some reason I was dumb enough to leave after the first credits scene. Apparently there is a second one.