thehockeyguru wrote:Out of the furnace was a good movie, slow at times but well done.
eddysnake wrote:Dickie Dunn wrote:
If I have one concern about the future of the series...Spoiler:to this point in the series the apes and their growing society have been more likeable and easier to root for than the humans. That feeling was subdued a bit in this film because the main villain was an ape and humans were simply trying to survive and did not provoke the war, but I'm not feeling a "damn dirty ape" moment building in this series. Caesar (and his son) is too likeable and too focused on maintaining the peace between the two species to turn into a brutal leader that helps the apes domineer over humans.
After the first two movies in this reboot, I have faith they'll find an appropriate way to tackle this issue. I imagine the impending ape war with the military might set civilization back even further. I'm also interested to see how they work the missing astronauts/time dilation into future movies.
regarding the future sequel, the director had this to say about the original ending of dawn which says a lot about the next one...Spoiler:PETER: I heard there was another ending to this movie that we’re not seeing. Is that coming out on the DVD and what is it?
MATT:...And what was different about the ending was that after the ending that you see in the final film, the idea was that the apes went out on a kind of exodus through the city and they gathered on the Golden Gate Bridge in order to look into the distance for the approaching warships. And I felt that it was taking us too far into the next movie. And almost starting the next movie and not letting the emotion of what had just happened, of what Caesar had just achieved and what Caesar had the price that he had paid. It wasn’t letting that resonate and it wasn’t ending, the final shot with again hopefully not spoiler way, but the final shot was actually in a way the very same final shot. It was actually him on top of the Golden Gate Bridge which was covered in apes, all looking out way, way into the distance and to see this really like messed up armada way in the distance showing up like really like ships in disrepair. And it moved into his eyes as he took in the uncertain future.
PETER: The battle that’s coming.
MATT: Yeah. And it had a kind of resonance. It was kind of cool. But I realized that we had skipped too much of the emotion by doing that. And that it actually in a way boxed us in too much to like the exact moment that felt like and also when we started showing this to people, some people are going wait, so does that mean the battle… like I meant for those ships to be way in the distance and they hadn’t even seen the apes, ’cause obviously the apes weren’t gathering to begin the fight. The apes were gathering to look and see the fight that was coming toward them. And so but it was hard to render that idea. And when I showed it to some people they were like going, so that’s it? They’re gonna start fighting right now? And I was like well no, and I realized that we didn’t have the right ending. So actually that last beat that is the last beat on Andy, this is actually kind of a cool thing too.
eddysnake wrote:saw that trailer last night in the theater and while the story is amazing, we both laughed when it said "from director Angelina Jolie". Apparently this is the early oscar frontrunner for the year and I see it being a really good deserving movie or a grasp for that oscar from Jolie and ends up being utter garbage. I'm hoping it's the first as the story is well deserving of a top notch film treatment, but something turns me off by Jolie making this. I hope I'm proven wrong though.
pittsports87 wrote:They are filming Southpaw 5 minutes from me, I might have to go check it out.
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