IamtheWaris wrote:Prior to Chara destroying Pacioretty into the bench these kinds of hits did not happen in any statistcally significant way so therefore the NHL had wait until they had some significant statistics of these hits occuring before they made a change?
Well, hits like that were already illegal.... just like fraudulently voting is already illegal.
ExPatriatePen wrote:That same "argument" could be applied to voter registration as well Tif.
Should we abolish voter registration?
It's interesting that you chose that line of argument....... because registration fraud actually does
happen, and somewhat frequently. Certainly happens much more so that voter fraud, which is the only activity that photo IDs could even pretend to inhibit.
And - for the record - I am not against voter ID cards. It does make sense in today's world where fewer and fewer people are not 'wired'. However, there isn't a single one of the 2012 measures that could, even in the most charitable of terms, be characterized as anything even remotely aimed at preserving voting integrity. The PA law in particular was almost comically stupid; as written and passed, there was no way the body empowered by the law to issue the IDs could have possibly met the demand by voting day.
DelPen wrote:To paraphrase tifosi77:
This is the very crux of the issue. People are clamoring for these background check laws as if there country is awash in fraudulent gun sales that future mass shootings would be prevented if only we had background checks of private sales.........
And it's a rubbish notion, because it simply does not happen in any statistically significant way that can be justification for these kinds of supressive requirements.
Aside from the last sentence, that's actually accurate.
I am not a believer in the oft-cited statistic of 40% of gun sales are private party transactions outside the reach of background checks. But the three biggest channels for people getting guns who shouldn't be getting them are corrupt FFLs selling guns 'off-the-books' (I read recently that in one year alone something like 2,500 FLLs were investigated and over 10,000 of their stock was simply 'missing'), straw purchases, and private party transactions. Expanding background checks can impact one of those for certain and likely a second as well. (Not sure how you do anything proactive to address straw purchases.)