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Re: LGP Futbol Thread - (CL, EPL, Serie A, Liga, 2010 World

Postby Rylan on Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:10 pm

USA WINS IN MEXICO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: LGP Futbol Thread - (CL, EPL, Serie A, Liga, 2010 World

Postby jprolley on Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:14 pm

Rylan wrote:USA WINS IN MEXICO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tim howard was on pcp
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Re: LGP Futbol Thread - (CL, EPL, Serie A, Liga, 2010 World

Postby Rylan on Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:21 pm

Tim Howard is the deity I will now pray to.
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Re: LGP Futbol Thread - (CL, EPL, Serie A, Liga, 2010 World

Postby pfim on Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:32 pm

Pretty freaking amazing. Not sure I understand the purpose of the friendly, but I guess that doesn't matter much at this point.
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Re: LGP Futbol Thread - (CL, EPL, Serie A, Liga, 2010 World

Postby largegarlic on Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:48 am

The US didn't look great, but getting a win at Azteca is awesome. I thought the defense held up pretty well. The US had the same problem of not being able to hold possession well through midfield, but not having Bradley certainly hurts in that area.
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Re: LGP Futbol Thread - (CL, EPL, Serie A, Liga, 2010 World

Postby the errey i breathe on Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:44 am

largegarlic wrote:The US didn't look great, but getting a win at Azteca is awesome. I thought the defense held up pretty well. The US had the same problem of not being able to hold possession well through midfield, but not having Bradley certainly hurts in that area.

They didn't look good but they also threw out a pretty makeshift lineup. No Bradley, Dempsey, Bocanegra. I thought Geoff Cameron played pretty well in the center, and I still think Beckerman stinks.
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Re: LGP Futbol Thread - (CL, EPL, Serie A, Liga, 2010 World

Postby pfim on Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:40 am

I mean, it's really tough to get excited about the result given how it was achieved. If we were going to park the bus against good opponents (Mexico, Italy) and struggle against minnows (El Salvador), we should have just kept Bradley.

Where's the high pressure? Passing? Why is Klinsmann here?
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Re: LGP Futbol Thread - (CL, EPL, Serie A, Liga, 2010 World

Postby Rylan on Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:50 am

pfim wrote:I mean, it's really tough to get excited about the result given how it was achieved. If we were going to park the bus against good opponents (Mexico, Italy) and struggle against minnows (El Salvador), we should have just kept Bradley.

Where's the high pressure? Passing? Why is Klinsmann here?


My big problem with Bradley was his terrible tactics and line up decisions that would handicap the USA. But Klinsmann is nor really doing anything for me to support either
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Re: LGP Futbol Thread - (CL, EPL, Serie A, Liga, 2010 World

Postby IamtheWaris on Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:06 am

pfim wrote:I mean, it's really tough to get excited about the result given how it was achieved. If we were going to park the bus against good opponents (Mexico, Italy) and struggle against minnows (El Salvador), we should have just kept Bradley.

Where's the high pressure? Passing? Why is Klinsmann here?


Not going to be pressing when playing at Azteca with the elevation and air. If my club team played as ugly as the US team does maybe I would have an issue but with national teams their job is to grind out results. In short tournaments thats what its all about.
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Re: LGP Futbol Thread - (CL, EPL, Serie A, Liga, 2010 World

Postby pfim on Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:39 am

This wasn't a short tournament, it's a friendly. If you can't experiment and try to improve yourself in friendly, there's no point in staging the match.
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Re: LGP Futbol Thread - (CL, EPL, Serie A, Liga, 2010 World

Postby IamtheWaris on Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:01 pm

All of their competitions, even qualifying, are short tournaments. Winning at the Azteca is not an improvement? They are not in business to sell tickets so who cares about their style.
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Re: LGP Futbol Thread - (CL, EPL, Serie A, Liga, 2010 World

Postby pfim on Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:07 pm

I'm not sure exactly what they've improved? Eventually they were going to get a result at Azteca regardless of who the manager was.

Do you feel they could replicate this performance against other squads consistently? Would you want them to?
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Re: LGP Futbol Thread - (CL, EPL, Serie A, Liga, 2010 World

Postby count2infinity on Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:15 pm



apparently the team hadn't scored in 5 games, so the fans were trying to help out.
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Re: LGP Futbol Thread - (CL, EPL, Serie A, Liga, 2010 World

Postby Gaucho on Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:21 pm

Großartig!
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Re: LGP Futbol Thread - (CL, EPL, Serie A, Liga, 2010 World

Postby largegarlic on Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:30 pm

I agree that things haven't been that much different under Klinsmann, but there have been a couple games when you could see the US playing the style he preaches. I think the January friendly against Venezuela was a game example of this. The US pressed high and moved the ball quickly and cleanly that game, and I think was unlucky to only win 1-0.

The other game that comes to mind was the Brazil friendly in May (maybe the Scotland one too, but I didn't see that). I thought the US really took the game to Brazil in the 2nd, but Brazil's keeper was fantastic and Brazil burned the US on the break a couple times. I thought that game was really closer than 4-1.

I was thinking of the US as ideally becoming a poor man's Germany, playing the Klinsmann/Loew style. The US is, I think, finding a backline that is more athletic and more comfortable passing out of the back. Cameron, Johnson, Chandler (if he commits), Edu--all of these guys are comfortable on the ball (for defenders) and Johnson and Chandler can attack up the flanks--the poor's man Lahm.

I think the midfield is where the US is really lacking at the moment. They just don't have enough players who are good enough technically to keep possession under high pressure. Continuing the Germany analogy, Bradley is the poor man's Schweinsteiger, Jones is the poor man's Khedira, Donovan can be an effective flank player (like Mueller), but they don't have an Oezil to really give the attack any cutting edge, and they don't have another effective wide player. I think that's why Klinsmann keeps giving Shea chances.

OK, this ended up being way more long-winded than I intended.
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Re: LGP Futbol Thread - (CL, EPL, Serie A, Liga, 2010 World

Postby DontToewsMeBro on Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:39 pm

I agree they need more creativity and vision in the midfield. I think another option is hoping we develop some players like Josh Gatt who can bring more speed on the wings.
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Re: LGP Futbol Thread - (CL, EPL, Serie A, Liga, 2010 World

Postby largegarlic on Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:46 pm

DontToewsMeBro wrote:I agree they need more creativity and vision in the midfield. I think another option is hoping we develop some players like Josh Gatt who can bring more speed on the wings.


I think we need both. Shea obviously changed the dynamic of the game when he came on last night. It would be great if we had someone like that on the right side as well. Williams was a black hole there last night. He killed several promising attacks in the first half. It seems like Gatt is getting some hype, but I haven't seen him play. The other young wing player that is getting some hype on the internet is Joe Gyau at Hoffenheim.
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Re: LGP Futbol Thread - (CL, EPL, Serie A, Liga, 2010 World

Postby pfim on Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:49 pm

Williams just isn't a right sided midfielder. I realize that he probably won't unseat one of the guys in the middle, but putting him out there on the right just has to stop. The team was much better with Zusi.
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Re: LGP Futbol Thread - (CL, EPL, Serie A, Liga, 2010 World

Postby Gaucho on Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:30 am



They're both ok.
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Re: LGP Futbol Thread - (CL, EPL, Serie A, Liga, 2010 World

Postby Gaucho on Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:14 am

Glasgow Rangers set home attendance world record for 4th league clubs:

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/fourthtier-rangers-shatter-world-record-20120819-24gfv.html
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Re: LGP Futbol Thread - (CL, EPL, Serie A, Liga, 2010 World

Postby davemess on Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:12 pm

Gaucho wrote:Glasgow Rangers set home attendance world record for 4th league clubs:

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/fourthtier-rangers-shatter-world-record-20120819-24gfv.html


Roughly 49,000 at Ibrox yesterday.

Roughly 46,000 combined at the 6 SPL games played this weekend.
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Re: LGP Futbol Thread - (CL, EPL, Serie A, Liga, 2010 World

Postby Rocco on Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:25 pm

Nope, no need for video replay at all. Just keep giving clubs like Chelski all the calls and ignore it when their strikers are offsides and don't worry about anything, EPL.
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Re: LGP Futbol Thread - (CL, EPL, Serie A, Liga, 2010 World

Postby Jesse on Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:29 am

West Ham signs Matt Jarvis from Wolves for $10 Mil. $7 up front and an additional $3 if certain conditions are met. Love the idea of him crossing balls into the box for Cole and Vaz Te.
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Re: LGP Futbol Thread - (CL, EPL, Serie A, Liga, 2010 World

Postby largegarlic on Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:59 am

OK, Swansea might be my favorite EPL team now. They are certainly aesthetically pleasing, seem to have good fans, and I always loved watching Michael Laudrup's Denmark teams in the late 80s/early 90s.
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Re: LGP Futbol Thread - (CL, EPL, Serie A, Liga, 2010 World

Postby Kraftster on Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:46 am

Lost Sinclair, huh? That sucks.

Wtf is up with Wilshere?
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