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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby DudeMan2766 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:49 pm

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He's back...and @JohnCena is already stale. #HellInACell

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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby nocera on Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:50 pm

skullman80 wrote:
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skullman80 wrote:There was no reason for that match to be in the cell at all.


There was a story reason. Heyman tried to avoid Punk by going on top. The story reason for Bryan/Orton in the cell is no interference from Big Show. In the PG era, the cell will not have the same brutality as it used to. That's fine with me. I'm a proponent of no blood anyway.

In a related note, I can't wait until they do away with these gimmick PPVs.


I guess I'm just sick of the cell being overused at this point. I know we don't have blood these days, but having a hell in the cell match, or even a regular cage match without just seems silly. Those matches are supposed to be brutal, and bloody. Hence why they should only be used on very special occasions, not all the friggin time when the people who book stuff can't figure out how to end a feud. That HITC with Punk/Ryback felt like a regular match. It could have been a NO DQ match and had all the same stuff happen, and still have the payoff of Punk getting Heyman at the end.


Oh, I agree with you. The reason for that is the yearly gimmick PPVs. I'd rather them only bust the cell out once every 5 years or so. Gimmick PPVs need to go away. HitC, Money in the Bank, TLC, Elimination Chamber do nothing but devalue the matches.

As for blood, maybe it's because I'm an old fart now, but I cringe every time I see blood in a match, even when watching old matches. All I can think about is all of the health issues it brings into play. Blood, chair shots to the head, all of the "extreme" violence stuff just turns my stomach. It's barbaric and unnecessary.


Chairshots to the head i agree with, but blood if used in the RIGHT instance and only sparingly can add impact. Imagine Hart vs Austin at WM13, and Austin passing out in a pool of his own blood... it's an iconic image. Tully Blanchard vs Magnum TA brutalizing each other inside the cage at Starcade, using a piece of broken chair trying to maim each other. Blood was certainly way overused for a while, but I think it has its place on special occasions.


For sure. Blood has a way of getting something over that nothing else does. Still though, the risks are way too big. It has nothing to do with being "PG," it won't return because of the health risks, not the current rating of the TV show.

I'm fine with that. It just means that the writers and wrestlers need to be more creative and come up with another way to get something over. Did the blood get Stone Cold over? Absolutely. But if he didn't bleed, he would've got over just as well without it. It just may have taken a bit longer.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby skullman80 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:51 pm

nocera wrote:
For sure. Blood has a way of getting something over that nothing else does. Still though, the risks are way too big. It has nothing to do with being "PG," it won't return because of the health risks, not the current rating of the TV show.

I'm fine with that. It just means that the writers and wrestlers need to be more creative and come up with another way to get something over. Did the blood get Stone Cold over? Absolutely. But if he didn't bleed, he would've got over just as well without it. It just may have taken a bit longer.


I agree with pretty much all of that, other than I'd be ok with blood on occasion if warranted.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby nocera on Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:55 pm

I'm okay with blood if it happens naturally or if it's subtle, like Cena in his match with Lesnar. I never want to see a Ric Flair "crimson mask" again. Health risks aside, it's just gross. Blading is dumb.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby Pavel Bure on Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:55 pm

This match is boring. Dorito sucks and Cena is just blah. 5 moves of doom already and be done with it.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby nocera on Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:56 pm

Pavel Bure wrote:This match is boring. Dorito sucks and Cena is just blah. 5 moves of doom already and be done with it.


5 moves of doom, Cena wins lol, ADR applies the arm bar and lays out Cena, cue Sandow.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby DudeMan2766 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:59 pm

This was a complete ratings panic...and I doubt they got any more buys because Cena was facing ADR. I would have actually welcomed Cena back after say, a 6 month absence, but this is dumb. Means nothing. WWE could have actually benefited Cena disappearing for a while
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby Pavel Bure on Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:59 pm

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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby Pavel Bure on Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:01 pm

Straight boos drowning out let's go Cena/Cena sucks chants
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby DudeMan2766 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:03 pm

im honestly more looking forward to the Divas match in hopes they don't give it to Bella so she can scream at the top of her lungs even more with the belt. AJ is more interesting than some of the guys. (I'm posting about the Divas division during this World Title match so what does that tell ya)
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby nocera on Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:03 pm

Maybe this is normal now and I never noticed, but I really like how Cole is actually calling moves.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby DudeMan2766 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:05 pm

nocera wrote:Maybe this is normal now and I never noticed, but I really like how Cole is actually calling moves.


He's a lot more tolerable now that he's not trying to be the over the top heel. That's JBL's job but even JBL is so funny I wouldn't consider him a heel.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby skullman80 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:05 pm

.... and there it is. Cena wins.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby nocera on Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:06 pm

"We are looking at Superman."


Truer words have never been spoken, JBL.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby skullman80 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:08 pm

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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby nocera on Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:08 pm

I don't understand why Cena can't be an active wrestler and NOT be a champion.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby skullman80 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:09 pm

Ziggler relegated to the roundtable. Unreal.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby nocera on Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:15 pm

So Bella 1 wins due to Total Divas, right?


Or not. Good. That flying head scissors into the black widow is impressive looking.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby DudeMan2766 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:25 pm

nocera wrote:So Bella 1 wins due to Total Divas, right?


Or not. Good. That flying head scissors into the black widow is impressive looking.


AJ is good. Both in the ring and on the mic. Granted it doesn't take much and the Divas division still is a snooze fest, but she deserves to have a long reign.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby JS© on Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:27 pm

can't stop laughing at that cena gif. what is that from?
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby JS© on Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:28 pm

skullman80 wrote:Ziggler relegated to the roundtable. Unreal.


Isn't he still concussed?

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I'm still going with the thought that the WWE Title will remain vacant after tonight. Big Show is nowhere to be seen so far, which makes me wonder where he'll be around 10:50. Another no contest, crowd goes home pissed....again.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby Froggy on Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:30 pm

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nocera wrote:So Bella 1 wins due to Total Divas, right?


Or not. Good. That flying head scissors into the black widow is impressive looking.


AJ is good. Both in the ring and on the mic. Granted it doesn't take much and the Divas division still is a snooze fest, but she deserves to have a long reign.

AJ was actually a wrestler before she hit the WWE. At least she can actually work a match when asked to. I think the one to take the belt off her will be Paige from NXT when she gets called up.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby DudeMan2766 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:36 pm

Froggy wrote:
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nocera wrote:So Bella 1 wins due to Total Divas, right?


Or not. Good. That flying head scissors into the black widow is impressive looking.


AJ is good. Both in the ring and on the mic. Granted it doesn't take much and the Divas division still is a snooze fest, but she deserves to have a long reign.

AJ was actually a wrestler before she hit the WWE. At least she can actually work a match when asked to. I think the one to take the belt off her will be Paige from NXT when she gets called up.


Wouldn't hate it. ..Actually I'd like to check out the girl you were talking about earlier Frog- who was a monster heel but not the WWE type. The Divas Div could be interesting if they actually tried
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby nocera on Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:40 pm

Awesome crowd.
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Re: The Pro Wrestling Thread

Postby nocera on Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:44 pm

Dave Meltzer is reporting that TNA is up for sale.


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