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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby Troy Loney on Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:35 am

I can see the Royals having a post world series hangover. The Tigers might be a bit of a house of cards in that they are getting old, and the Twins are still a year or two away. The Indians could be good. It's a deep division and the White Sox would need other teams to fall, I don't think they've added enough, especially on offense, they have little after Abreu.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby Mr. Colby on Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:52 am

Agreed. I think the royals got a lot worse. Indians will be good if Brantley and kluber are the same
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby CBear3 on Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:11 am

The Royals were barely Wild Cards last year, and I think that's what we'll look like this year as well. Although Hosmer and Moustakas didn't produce to their expected levels in the regular season, and we saw what they're capable of in the post season. I really think the Royals will pretty much follow their performance. The bullpen won't be as great, and we still have to replace Shields. I'd put that at about a 5 game drop, making us last years Indians. If they stay healthy (something we basically did last year), they'll be in the wild card race at the start of September. If their bats stay as alive as they were in the postseason, they could make it in again (and then all bets are off).
The Tigers will win the division, even if their window is closing. The Indians can only improve as a young lineup continues to develop. The White Sox have added more pitching depth around Chris Sale, but they didn't plate significantly more runs than the Royals did.

On August 31st, 2014 the division looked like this:
Detroit..............0
Kansas City.......0
Cleveland.........-2.5
Chicago...........-12.5
Minnesota.........-15

My bet, is on August 31st, 2015 that looks more like:
Detroit..............0
Cleveland.........-2.5
Kansas City.......-2.5
Chicago...........-8.5
Minnesota.........-13
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby columbia on Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:42 pm

Mr. Colby wrote:The A's operate weirdly.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby ulf on Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:05 am

Lester to the Cubs. Ugh
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy on Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:12 am

ulf wrote:Lester to the Cubs. Ugh


yeah. Disappointed the Sox didn't sign him but I can't really be mad that he went to the Cubs to be with Theo.

That said, our pitching is going to be really bad again this season unless we do something big.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby Troy Loney on Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:17 am

If the cubs sign samarjzia next offseason , that might be the smartest use of resources possible for that team.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby shafnutz05 on Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:01 pm

Jimmy Rollins traded to the Dodgers, haven't seen the return yet
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby canaan on Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:33 pm

Dee Gordon, Dan Haren to the Marlins

http://mweb.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-ba ... -dan-haren

I don't see Haren playing there
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby Mr. Colby on Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:58 pm

What a diva. Just play one year there. They're paying you $10M USD and you're not even good. Tell your family to go on a 6 month vacation to Miami. There are worse scenarios.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby Orlando Penguin on Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:54 am

CBear3 wrote:The Royals were barely Wild Cards last year, and I think that's what we'll look like this year as well. Although Hosmer and Moustakas didn't produce to their expected levels in the regular season, and we saw what they're capable of in the post season. I really think the Royals will pretty much follow their performance. The bullpen won't be as great, and we still have to replace Shields. I'd put that at about a 5 game drop, making us last years Indians. If they stay healthy (something we basically did last year), they'll be in the wild card race at the start of September. If their bats stay as alive as they were in the postseason, they could make it in again (and then all bets are off).
The Tigers will win the division, even if their window is closing. The Indians can only improve as a young lineup continues to develop. The White Sox have added more pitching depth around Chris Sale, but they didn't plate significantly more runs than the Royals did.

On August 31st, 2014 the division looked like this:
Detroit..............0
Kansas City.......0
Cleveland.........-2.5
Chicago...........-12.5
Minnesota.........-15

My bet, is on August 31st, 2015 that looks more like:
Detroit..............0
Cleveland.........-2.5
Kansas City.......-2.5
Chicago...........-8.5
Minnesota.........-13



I'd be thrilled if the Twins had a 2-game improvement over a year's time. If they could clone Hughes 4 more times for a full rotation, I'd feel more confident. But that staff outside of Hughes and Perkins is a freakin' dumpster fire. Hopefully, the signing of Torii Hunter will infuse a little bit more leadership in that clubhouse.

As for the rest of the division, the Paper Tigers should be the favorite but I would not be shocked to see the Indians win the division with the Royals coming in 2nd, provided that the loss of Butler and possibly Shields doesn't cripple them too much. As I said when they lost to the Orioles, no team has gotten less out of more than the Tigers have these past 5-7 years. They remind me of the Eagles of the early 2000's -- constantly getting to the NFC title game but not able to get over the hump and then the window slams shut.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby canaan on Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:37 am

Dodgers acquire Howie Kendrick to replace Dee Gordon, trading the newly acquired Heaney and Barnes in the process; close to signing Brandon Mccarthy (4yr deal)
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby MWB on Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:39 am

And kemp seems to be the next one to be shipped. Friedman certainly making his mark.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby ville5 on Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:23 am

Nice deal for the Padres. They get the Dodgers to pay $30 of the $107 million owed to Kemp.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby Troy Loney on Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:45 am

Cespedes on the move again. To detroit for Porcello.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby Rocco on Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:11 am

I'm not sure why the Padres would want to take on Kemp's deal and help out the Dodgers.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby Troy Loney on Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:22 am

Dodgers are eating $31M of that contract. So 5 years at around $75M? Not unreasonable, but definitely risky, it's hard to see him surpassing his 2014 stats going forward.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby Rocco on Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:57 pm

The Reds have traded Alfredo Simon to Detroit and Mat Latos to Miami.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby dodint on Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:12 pm

Red Sox, y u trade Cespedes for pitcher and lose other pitcher and MiLB prospect in process? Y? YYYYY!
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby dodint on Thu Dec 11, 2014 2:30 pm

Nevermind, I read the transaction wrong. Still think the deal is ****.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby shafnutz05 on Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:19 pm

Note to all Astros fans:

Houston Astros ✔ @astros

Note: the date of the Taylor Swift 1989 tour show at #MMP is subject to change if it conflicts with an #Astros postseason home game.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby columbia on Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:29 pm

Seems legit.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby Factorial on Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:36 pm

Shaf left out the part where he bought ticket to the TS show.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby shafnutz05 on Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:38 pm

Factorial wrote:Shaf left out the part where he bought ticket to the TS show.


Ugh, no way. My sister-in-law (she's 24) is obsessed with her and worships the ground she walks on. I don't get it. carefully steps past Reagan bust to grab my Reagan coffee mug off the shelf
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby columbia on Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:39 pm

You're a great American.
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