Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

[columbia]

On the bright side for A-Rod, he can escape the usual blame, because the Yankees are done.

[MWB]

Yankees didn't deserve to win last night, but quite an up and down game. Should have scored early. Great comeback in ninth. Dagger in the 12th. Will certainly be tough to come back now. No CC until game 4, two games (if needed) against Verlander on full rest, no Jeter, who is one of only three players who has been hitting.

Awful bookends to the season too... Rivera gone early, Jeter gone late.

And no, Arod doesn't escape blame. If he could get a hit early on, they wouldn't have gone to extra innings and Jeter wouldn't have gotten hurt (kind of joking, I think).

[columbia]

And no, Arod doesn't escape blame. If he could get a hit early on, they wouldn't have gone to extra innings and Jeter wouldn't have gotten hurt (kind of joking, I think).

A tough crowd here.

[JoseCuervo]

And no, Arod doesn't escape blame. If he could get a hit early on, they wouldn't have gone to extra innings and Jeter wouldn't have gotten hurt (kind of joking, I think).

Sounds like ibanez' fault then. He should never have sent that game to extras if they were just going to lose anyway.

[MWB]

I think Arod gets a worse wrap than he should sometimes, but he's just so frustrating to watch. That said, Granderson, Swisher, and Cano have all come up short in the playoffs so far. It's been a team effort in the offensive failures.

[offsides]

Go Detroit

[columbia]

It's so nice to see that someone still knows how to lay down a drag bunt.
Even if he was out.

[MWB]

Can Arod be anymore of a head case?

[columbia]

It's all that sunbathing in Central Park.

Spoiler:

[DudeMan2766]

I love how he had years of playoff choke jobs and had one good playoff when the Yankees last won the WS, and everyone acted like people who critisized him previously had egg all over their faces. Acting like 1 good year means he's no longer a choke artist. And he's done nothing but dissapear in the playoffs ever since.

[MWB]

Arod is someone who requires confidence. If he gets off to a good start, he has confidence, and he does well (2000, 2004, 2009). If he struggles, the pressure builds, and he caves (other years). However, he has had more than one good postseason run and his overall postseason stats are decent, but not great. That said, I'd like to see him benched for the rest of the season.

[ulf]

postseason choker a-rod .852 career playoff OPS
Mr October Derek Jeter .841 playoff OPS

funny the way it is.

[ulf]

Those were numbers pre-last night.

[MWB]

Jeter hasn't wilted under pressure like Arod has. Like I said earlier, Arod has had some great playoffs. But he's also had some awful ones. He's all or nothing.

A think a better way to compare is how they do regular season versus post season. Jeter has nearly identical stats, with increased pressure and better pitchers:

Jeter regular season: 313/382/448
Jeter post-season: 308/374/465

Arod regular season: 300/384/560
Arod post-season: 265/373/470

I'd take Jeter any day with a game on the line.

[shafnutz05]

Everyone is talking about A Rod....Robinson Cano just set a new record today for the longest hitters streak in postseason history (26 AB) and still counting

[MRandall25]

Everyone is talking about A Rod....Robinson Cano just set a new record today for the longest hitters streak in postseason history (26 AB) and still counting

Hitless?

[ulf]

Jeter hasn't wilted under pressure like Arod has. Like I said earlier, Arod has had some great playoffs. But he's also had some awful ones. He's all or nothing.

A think a better way to compare is how they do regular season versus post season. Jeter has nearly identical stats, with increased pressure and better pitchers:

Jeter regular season: 313/382/448
Jeter post-season: 308/374/465

Arod regular season: 300/384/560
Arod post-season: 265/373/470

I'd take Jeter any day with a game on the line.

Those are still good numbers. I'm not arguing he's as good as he is in the regular season, but the whole biggest choker ever narrative is getting overblown.

[MWB]

Everyone is talking about A Rod....Robinson Cano just set a new record today for the longest hitters streak in postseason history (26 AB) and still counting

Cano's contract isn't as big, has had a great season, doesn't have a history of going into deep post-season slumbers, doesn't act like a tool...

[MWB]

Those are still good numbers. I'm not arguing he's as good as he is in the regular season, but the whole biggest choker ever narrative is getting overblown.

You're right, I agree. It's just when he's bad, he's awful and lost. I don't see him bouncing back mid post-season.

[shafnutz05]

Everyone is talking about A Rod....Robinson Cano just set a new record today for the longest hitters streak in postseason history (26 AB) and still counting

Hitless?

Yes, thx

[offsides]

Boring baseball game, boring foorball game and NO hockey to watch. Blah

[MWB]

Nice to see Arod sitting. No way he would be able to touch Verlander at this point. Plus, he was reportedly flirting with fans during the 8th inning of game 1. Reason 222 Jeter is better. He'd wait until after the game to close the deal and send a gift basket.

[columbia]

How much of the nay saying on Cabrera has to do with him not really looking like an athlete?

[MWB]

Who nay says Cabrera?

[columbia]

See the MVP talk in this thread.