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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby columbia on Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:20 am

On the bright side for A-Rod, he can escape the usual blame, because the Yankees are done.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby MWB on Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:38 am

Yankees didn't deserve to win last night, but quite an up and down game. Should have scored early. Great comeback in ninth. Dagger in the 12th. Will certainly be tough to come back now. No CC until game 4, two games (if needed) against Verlander on full rest, no Jeter, who is one of only three players who has been hitting.

Awful bookends to the season too... Rivera gone early, Jeter gone late.

And no, Arod doesn't escape blame. If he could get a hit early on, they wouldn't have gone to extra innings and Jeter wouldn't have gotten hurt (kind of joking, I think).
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby columbia on Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:39 am

MWB wrote:And no, Arod doesn't escape blame. If he could get a hit early on, they wouldn't have gone to extra innings and Jeter wouldn't have gotten hurt (kind of joking, I think).


A tough crowd here. :lol:
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby JoseCuervo on Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:23 pm

MWB wrote:And no, Arod doesn't escape blame. If he could get a hit early on, they wouldn't have gone to extra innings and Jeter wouldn't have gotten hurt (kind of joking, I think).


Sounds like ibanez' fault then. He should never have sent that game to extras if they were just going to lose anyway.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby MWB on Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:45 pm

I think Arod gets a worse wrap than he should sometimes, but he's just so frustrating to watch. That said, Granderson, Swisher, and Cano have all come up short in the playoffs so far. It's been a team effort in the offensive failures.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby offsides on Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:30 pm

Go Detroit
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby columbia on Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:55 pm

It's so nice to see that someone still knows how to lay down a drag bunt.
Even if he was out.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby MWB on Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:15 pm

Can Arod be anymore of a head case?
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby columbia on Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:19 pm

It's all that sunbathing in Central Park.

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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby DudeMan2766 on Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:05 pm

I love how he had years of playoff choke jobs and had one good playoff when the Yankees last won the WS, and everyone acted like people who critisized him previously had egg all over their faces. Acting like 1 good year means he's no longer a choke artist. And he's done nothing but dissapear in the playoffs ever since.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby MWB on Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:51 pm

Arod is someone who requires confidence. If he gets off to a good start, he has confidence, and he does well (2000, 2004, 2009). If he struggles, the pressure builds, and he caves (other years). However, he has had more than one good postseason run and his overall postseason stats are decent, but not great. That said, I'd like to see him benched for the rest of the season.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby ulf on Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:57 pm

postseason choker a-rod .852 career playoff OPS
Mr October Derek Jeter .841 playoff OPS

funny the way it is.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby ulf on Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:57 pm

Those were numbers pre-last night.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby MWB on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:17 pm

Jeter hasn't wilted under pressure like Arod has. Like I said earlier, Arod has had some great playoffs. But he's also had some awful ones. He's all or nothing.

A think a better way to compare is how they do regular season versus post season. Jeter has nearly identical stats, with increased pressure and better pitchers:

Jeter regular season: 313/382/448
Jeter post-season: 308/374/465

Arod regular season: 300/384/560
Arod post-season: 265/373/470

I'd take Jeter any day with a game on the line.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby shafnutz05 on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:20 pm

Everyone is talking about A Rod....Robinson Cano just set a new record today for the longest hitters streak in postseason history (26 AB) and still counting
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby MRandall25 on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:23 pm

shafnutz05 wrote:Everyone is talking about A Rod....Robinson Cano just set a new record today for the longest hitters streak in postseason history (26 AB) and still counting


Hitless?
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby ulf on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:25 pm

MWB wrote:Jeter hasn't wilted under pressure like Arod has. Like I said earlier, Arod has had some great playoffs. But he's also had some awful ones. He's all or nothing.

A think a better way to compare is how they do regular season versus post season. Jeter has nearly identical stats, with increased pressure and better pitchers:

Jeter regular season: 313/382/448
Jeter post-season: 308/374/465

Arod regular season: 300/384/560
Arod post-season: 265/373/470

I'd take Jeter any day with a game on the line.

Those are still good numbers. I'm not arguing he's as good as he is in the regular season, but the whole biggest choker ever narrative is getting overblown.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby MWB on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:26 pm

shafnutz05 wrote:Everyone is talking about A Rod....Robinson Cano just set a new record today for the longest hitters streak in postseason history (26 AB) and still counting


Cano's contract isn't as big, has had a great season, doesn't have a history of going into deep post-season slumbers, doesn't act like a tool...
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby MWB on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:27 pm

ulf wrote:Those are still good numbers. I'm not arguing he's as good as he is in the regular season, but the whole biggest choker ever narrative is getting overblown.


You're right, I agree. It's just when he's bad, he's awful and lost. I don't see him bouncing back mid post-season.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby shafnutz05 on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:28 pm

MRandall25 wrote:
shafnutz05 wrote:Everyone is talking about A Rod....Robinson Cano just set a new record today for the longest hitters streak in postseason history (26 AB) and still counting


Hitless?


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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby offsides on Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:42 pm

Boring baseball game, boring foorball game and NO hockey to watch. Blah
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby MWB on Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:14 pm

Nice to see Arod sitting. No way he would be able to touch Verlander at this point. Plus, he was reportedly flirting with fans during the 8th inning of game 1. Reason 222 Jeter is better. He'd wait until after the game to close the deal and send a gift basket.
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby columbia on Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:57 pm

How much of the nay saying on Cabrera has to do with him not really looking like an athlete?
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby MWB on Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:58 pm

Who nay says Cabrera?
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Re: Non-Pirates Baseball Thread

Postby columbia on Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:59 pm

See the MVP talk in this thread.
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