New iPhone coming..

[canaan]

I dunno why everyone was expecting an iPhone 5 when apple has been on 2 year refresh cycles.

the tie-in with the iOS 5 seemed like it would be kind of a marketing gimme, but ho hum.

[knives of ice]

what a complete and total DUD of an announcement.

[canaan]

what a complete and total DUD of an announcement.

yup. im pumped about the ios update, but i dont need to "upgrade" for it.

[ulf]

stock down over 5%

[Malkamaniac]

stock down over 5%

It's amazing what a press release could do. It's not like those stocks aren't going to rebound when they release all this stuff.

[shafnutz05]

[beerman]

I dunno why everyone was expecting an iPhone 5 when apple has been on 2 year refresh cycles.

Yeah this is pretty much exactly what I expected, nothing earth shattering just a few basic upgrades. If you already have a 4 it doesn't seem like it would be worthwhile at all (unless you're on Verizon and would need the worldphone capability) but if you still have a 3gs it'd be a nice upgrade.

Like you said based on their history one would think they'll have big upgrades to a new model for next year. Perfect timing for me since I'll be due for an upgrade then.

[shafnutz05]

I dunno why everyone was expecting an iPhone 5 when apple has been on 2 year refresh cycles.

Yeah this is pretty much exactly what I expected, nothing earth shattering just a few basic upgrades. If you already have a 4 it doesn't seem like it would be worthwhile at all (unless you're on Verizon and would need the worldphone capability) but if you still have a 3gs it'd be a nice upgrade.

Like you said based on their history one would think they'll have big upgrades to a new model for next year. Perfect timing for me since I'll be due for an upgrade then.

This is my problem....my upgrade cycle is totally screwed

[canaan]

stock down over 5%

its rebounding to around -3%

[knives of ice]

i want a bigger screen and 4g....to have to wait till next year for this is ridiculous.

galaxy s2 is my next phone i guess.

[Malkamaniac]

I'm really thinking you're not going to see a bigger screen on the Iphone, a marginal improvement at most. They've always been about small sizing.

[viva la ben]

The 4s also does hpsa+, while it isn't lte 4g, it's twice as fast as 3g

[Malkamaniac]

The 4s also does hpsa+, while it isn't lte 4g, it's twice as fast as 3g

Yea, it's not like they've completely just re-upped a 3g version of the phone. With the new tech and advancements, it should be faster, although they claim that "it's as fast as a 4g phone." I'd really like to see those specs first.

[Letang Is The Truth]

I dunno why everyone was expecting an iPhone 5 when apple has been on 2 year refresh cycles.

this. people be silly

[viva la ben]

Hpsa+ is at&t's intermediate between 3g and 4g cellular data. Hpsa+ is fairly widespread, but they have their true 4g lte network in only like 5 cities nationwide.

[viva la ben]

i want a bigger screen and 4g....to have to wait till next year for this is ridiculous.

galaxy s2 is my next phone i guess.

UMAD?

[pittsoccer33]

The 4s also does hpsa+, while it isn't lte 4g, it's twice as fast as 3g

most of what is advertised as 4G is actually hspa+

[knives of ice]

The 4s also does hpsa+, while it isn't lte 4g, it's twice as fast as 3g

too bad most carriers in the US don't implement hpsa+. sprint sure doesn't.

[viva la ben]

Sprint only has ~15% market share
Verizon has ~30%
AT&T plus tmobile would have ~43%

AT&T and tmobile use hpsa+

[Tico Rick]

I've been waiting to get rid of my Blackberry, which I hate, and I went to my local Verizon store to talk to the salespeople about the differences between the iPhone 4 and 4S, intent on ordering one of them. The sales guy made a VERY heavy push for me to get an android instead of an iPhone. One of his arguments that a number of applications which are free on the droids, such as GPS, you have to pay for with the iPhone. Any thoughts on which is better?

Also, I spend part of each year in Costa Rica. I have a number of friends there who bought iPhones from AT&T, took out the chip and put in the chip from their local cell phones to use the iPhone locally, but until now this couldn't be done with the Verizon iPhones. Anyone know if I'd be able to do that with the Verizon 4S's?

[Fast B]

I've been waiting to get rid of my Blackberry, which I hate, and I went to my local Verizon store to talk to the salespeople about the differences between the iPhone 4 and 4S, intent on ordering one of them. The sales guy made a VERY heavy push for me to get an android instead of an iPhone. One of his arguments that a number of applications which are free on the droids, such as GPS, you have to pay for with the iPhone. Any thoughts on which is better?

Also, I spend part of each year in Costa Rica. I have a number of friends there who bought iPhones from AT&T, took out the chip and put in the chip from their local cell phones to use the iPhone locally, but until now this couldn't be done with the Verizon iPhones. Anyone know if I'd be able to do that with the Verizon 4S's?

iPhones do have built-in GPS, but if you want turn-by-turn directions (like TomTom) you will have to buy an app; that functionality isn't built in.

The Verizon 4S does have a slot for a SIM card; you may need to have them unlock the device for you though.

[canaan]

turn-by-turn directions are available for free with the mapquest app

[mac5155]

ive used mapquest about 3 times and each time its screwed me over

[columbia]

turn-by-turn directions are available for free with the mapquest app

I need to investigate this.

[Malkamaniac]

Know like two people that have a 4g and just pre-ordered a 4s. I'm not so sure they aren't jaded by the apple.