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Re: LGP Education thread

Postby columbia on Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:52 pm

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Re: LGP Education thread

Postby MWB on Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:18 pm

No longer my problem. School's out.
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Re: LGP Education thread

Postby count2infinity on Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:30 pm

No longer my problem. I'm not a molder of young minds anymore.

Spoiler:
and it feels so good!!!
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Re: LGP Education thread

Postby MWB on Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:43 pm

count2infinity wrote:No longer my problem. I'm not a molder of young minds anymore.

Spoiler:
and it feels so good!!!


Don't sell yourself short. I bet you mold minds here daily through your posts.
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Re: LGP Education thread

Postby canaan on Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:17 pm

"warp" would be more fitting.
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Re: LGP Education thread

Postby count2infinity on Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:44 am

:lol:
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Re: LGP Education thread

Postby count2infinity on Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:13 pm

welcome back to school!!!

not sure if this has been posted or not:

http://www.ted.com/talks/ken_robinson_s ... ivity.html
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Re: LGP Education thread

Postby MWB on Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:06 pm

How'd you know? That is one of my goals for this year.
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Re: LGP Education thread

Postby Guinness on Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:08 pm

count2infinity wrote:No longer my problem. I'm not a molder of young minds anymore.

Spoiler:
and it feels so good!!!


:thumb: :thumb:
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Re: LGP Education thread

Postby count2infinity on Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:08 pm

because I know education. lol
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Re: LGP Education thread

Postby MWB on Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:54 pm

I'm very, very happy to be working for a principal whose attitude is, "You're the professionals, you know what you're doing. I'm not going to interfere with what you do unless you do something that causes me to have to interfere."
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Re: LGP Education thread

Postby MWB on Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:11 pm

count2infinity wrote:welcome back to school!!!

not sure if this has been posted or not:

http://www.ted.com/talks/ken_robinson_s ... ivity.html


Great video, thanks for sharing.
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Re: LGP Education thread

Postby MWB on Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:58 pm

Interesting view on some of the Democrats and their views on education:

It’s not just right wing states and politicians that want to harass teachers.

Plenty of Dems are in on the fun.

Senator Michael Bennet of Colorado is a nominal Democrat who never saw a teacher he didn’t look upon with suspicion or a test company he didn’t want to give a contract to.

Mayor Rahm Emanuel is leading the charge in teacher demonization efforts in the Midwest, and I would argue that his anti-union, anti-teacher track record is beginning to rival that of his brethren to the north, Scott Walker and Paul Ryan.

Emanuel is a Democrat in name and once led the DCCC when Dems took back the House of Representatives.

Congressman George Miller, who chairs the House Education Committee, is a Democrat but like Bennet in the Senate, he too never met a teacher he felt could be trusted to teach without “high stakes accountability measures” imposed from afar.

Cory Booker is a Democrat who is currently engaged in the wholesale privatization of the Newark school system. He’s got buddies in the hedge funds and Wall Street who bankroll him, he’s great friends with Chris Christie and loves Christie’s privatization efforts at the state level and his demonization of teachers and teachers unions in the media. That won’t stop Booker from running against Christie for governor next year, however, so those of us who live in NJ can expect privatization of the schools no matter who wins – Christie or Booker.

Michelle Rhee, Joel Klein and Michael Bloomberg were all nominal Democrats before they embarked upon their teacher demonization/school privatization agendas as well.

And of course the Democratic politician who has had the most impact in the teacher demonization/school privatization effort is Barack Obama – from Race to the Top to Central Falls, Rhode Island to Race to the Top II: The Municipal Version to Race to the Top III: The District Version, few politicians have been as successful at bringing teacher evaluations tied to test scores and changes to tenure laws or promoting a broad expansion of high stakes testing in every grade in every subject, K-12, as Barack Obama.

I wish it were simply right wingers and Republicans out to harass teachers who were the problem. Unfortunately, because both parties take money from the same corporate masters, politicians in both parties are out to give those masters what they ultimately want when it comes to public education – a privatized system with busted unions, cheap labor costs, and lots and lots of opportunities to cash in on the latest ed buzz craze (these days that being the Common Core Federal Standards, the tests that are going to be aligned to those standards and the test prep materials that are going to be needed to get students prepared for those tests.)


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Re: LGP Education thread

Postby count2infinity on Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:08 pm

I wish there were people in power that had any small amount of knowledge of how the education system really works. Having politicians and businessmen decide how education should be run because they went through the system once makes no sense. It's like going to have a person that had open heart surgery to perform yours for you because they went through the surgery once.
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Re: LGP Education thread

Postby MWB on Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:16 pm

The cycle of new reforms, initiatives, and curriculum changes is pretty mind boggling. And each change requires more money to be spent one something that may or may not work.
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Re: LGP Education thread

Postby shmenguin on Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:09 pm

count2infinity wrote:I wish there were people in power that had any small amount of knowledge of how the education system really works.


they know how it works. they just don't care.
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Re: LGP Education thread

Postby columbia on Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:20 pm

I saw the segment about the Khan Academy on 60 Minutes,
It was pretty interesting,
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Re: LGP Education thread

Postby MWB on Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:34 pm

columbia wrote:I saw the segment about the Khan Academy on 60 Minutes,
It was pretty interesting,


Who did they talk to and what did they have to say about it?
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Re: LGP Education thread

Postby columbia on Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:35 pm

They talked to Kahn and focused on the seemingly positive effects in CA, where it has been piloted in about 30 schools (districts?).

You can see it here:
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7401696n
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Re: LGP Education thread

Postby MWB on Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:43 pm

I've read mixed things about the videos. Some say they're quite effective and others say they're not so accurate. Thanks for the link, I'll take a look at it.
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Re: LGP Education thread

Postby count2infinity on Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:47 pm

It's the same as all education, MWB. Certain things work best for some, and certain things work best for others. It's very very dangerous to point to something and say, "this works for some people, so let's do it for everyone!"
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Re: LGP Education thread

Postby MWB on Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:03 pm

Very true, there's no silver bullet. That is the biggest problem with all the reforms. People think that THIS change will work for everyone. I would just hope that Khan isn't inaccurate in their teachings.

The one change in schools that would have a major effect is this: make the certification process more rigorous so that only those who truly want to teach do it, then let them just teach. Very few in charge want to let teachers be professionals though.
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Re: LGP Education thread

Postby count2infinity on Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:09 pm

I was surprised at the number of people that were in education that had trouble passing the Praxis I. Honestly, if you can't pass that, I don't want you anywhere close to children and try to impart your "knowledge" on them.
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Re: LGP Education thread

Postby MWB on Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:14 pm

Yeah, the Praxis tests are pretty much a joke.

Education majors should have two years of classes on teaching methods, psychology, and management. They should spend the next two years in the classroom learning from experienced teachers.
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Re: LGP Education thread

Postby count2infinity on Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:18 pm

you talking secondary or elementary education? I think that they need to have a much larger division between the two. I was a secondary education major and all but one of my education classes were a majority of elementary ed majors. I understand that it's important for those at the secondary level to know how young minds work, but they need to become an expert in a particular material. I like your plan for elementary ed majors, MWB, but not for secondary ed.
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