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Re: Gym/Exercise Thread

Postby Godric on Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:08 pm

kovyfalcon27 wrote:Finally hit my lifetime lifting goal of raw bench pressing 400 pounds last week. Pretty good accomplishment since I weigh 195 and don't roid out. There is a bench press competition in my area I think I'm gonna check out, anyone ever do one of these before??


Bf%? Height and weight?
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Re: Gym/Exercise Thread

Postby kovyfalcon27 on Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:04 pm

Godric wrote:
kovyfalcon27 wrote:Finally hit my lifetime lifting goal of raw bench pressing 400 pounds last week. Pretty good accomplishment since I weigh 195 and don't roid out. There is a bench press competition in my area I think I'm gonna check out, anyone ever do one of these before??


Bf%? Height and weight?

I haven't had my fb measured in a while, it's somewhere around 11 or 12 % I'm sure. I'm 5'11" and 195 lbs.
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Re: Gym/Exercise Thread

Postby Dickie Dunn on Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:00 pm

kovyfalcon27 wrote:Finally hit my lifetime lifting goal of raw bench pressing 400 pounds last week. Pretty good accomplishment since I weigh 195 and don't roid out. There is a bench press competition in my area I think I'm gonna check out, anyone ever do one of these before??


Congrats. 400 is a big number, regardless of your weight and juice-free status. When I was in high school I had a decent bench and got a bit full of myself. Went too aggressive on a 1RM and jacked up my shoulder. My shoulder and my bench press has never been the same. Its been at least three years since I even attempted a barbell bench press. I stick to dumbbell bench press and weighted pushups. Its not the same, but it gets the job done.
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Re: Gym/Exercise Thread

Postby kovyfalcon27 on Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:18 pm

Dickie Dunn wrote:
kovyfalcon27 wrote:Finally hit my lifetime lifting goal of raw bench pressing 400 pounds last week. Pretty good accomplishment since I weigh 195 and don't roid out. There is a bench press competition in my area I think I'm gonna check out, anyone ever do one of these before??


Congrats. 400 is a big number, regardless of your weight and juice-free status. When I was in high school I had a decent bench and got a bit full of myself. Went too aggressive on a 1RM and jacked up my shoulder. My shoulder and my bench press has never been the same. Its been at least three years since I even attempted a barbell bench press. I stick to dumbbell bench press and weighted pushups. Its not the same, but it gets the job done.

Thanks man!
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Re: Gym/Exercise Thread

Postby tifosi77 on Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:22 pm

Looking for suggestions for stabilizing and strengthening the shoulder. A couple years ago I jacked my shoulder doing plyometric pushups, and I hadn't been able to support my own body weight through more than 2-3 pushups since. When there is the slightest amount of load in the joint, it pops after just a few degrees of movement. Been focusing on stretching and flexibility the past couple months, and today was the first time since the injury that I could do multiple pushup movements (yoga vinyasas) without falling flat on my face.

Starting to get back into a fitness routine, but I want to make sure things are sorted before I apply full throttle.
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Re: Gym/Exercise Thread

Postby Godric on Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:33 pm

tifosi77 wrote:
Starting to get back into a fitness routine, but I want to make sure things are sorted before I apply full throttle.


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Re: Gym/Exercise Thread

Postby PensFanInDC on Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:10 pm

tifosi77 wrote:Looking for suggestions for stabilizing and strengthening the shoulder. A couple years ago I jacked my shoulder doing plyometric pushups, and I hadn't been able to support my own body weight through more than 2-3 pushups since. When there is the slightest amount of load in the joint, it pops after just a few degrees of movement. Been focusing on stretching and flexibility the past couple months, and today was the first time since the injury that I could do multiple pushup movements (yoga vinyasas) without falling flat on my face.

Starting to get back into a fitness routine, but I want to make sure things are sorted before I apply full throttle.


Need more info. Is lateral or linear movement affected or both? Was it a rotator cuff issue?
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Re: Gym/Exercise Thread

Postby shoeshine boy on Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:31 am

pensfan1989 wrote:
2-3 cans a day. Also replaced lunch with a salad everyday.


interesting. I've been considering this as well. what kind of dressing are you using for your salad?
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Re: Gym/Exercise Thread

Postby shafnutz05 on Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:40 am

shoeshine boy wrote:
pensfan1989 wrote:
2-3 cans a day. Also replaced lunch with a salad everyday.


interesting. I've been considering this as well. what kind of dressing are you using for your salad?


If I may step in, you are far better off using a full-fat dressing for your salad (in moderation, of course), than a low-fat variety. Full-fat varieties make it much easier for your body to absorb the nutrients and whatnot in the salad. Low-fat dressings are full of artificial crap, higher in sugar generally, etc.

I like to roll with olive oil and a touch of vinegarette sometimes, since you still get the benefit of the healthy fat. tl;nr low-fat dressings are not worth whatever insignificant decrease in calories they cause.
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Re: Gym/Exercise Thread

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:43 am

was signed up for half marathon in may. probably cant run a mile without wanting to kill myself. any advice?
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Re: Gym/Exercise Thread

Postby Dickie Dunn on Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:54 am

Letang Is The Truth wrote:was signed up for half marathon in may. probably cant run a mile without wanting to kill myself. any advice?


http://www.runnersworld.com/training/10k-training-plans

I'd start there with the beginner 5k and 10k training programs and increase it from there. Biggest advice I could ever give about running is when you first start, focus on breathing through your nose and out of your mouth. Slow, controlled breathing. Fill your lungs with air and then exhale. It will feel weird at first, but the difference it makes is amazing. Too many people let their running pace dictate their breathing, resulting in short, labored breaths that don't fill your lungs or get enough oxygen to your muscles.
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Re: Gym/Exercise Thread

Postby Troy Loney on Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:56 am

That is good advice, but is your problem that you find running too boring?
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Re: Gym/Exercise Thread

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:58 am

Troy Loney wrote:That is good advice, but is your problem that you find running too boring?


probably a little bit of both :slug:
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Re: Gym/Exercise Thread

Postby shoeshine boy on Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:59 am

shafnutz05 wrote:
If I may step in, you are far better off using a full-fat dressing for your salad (in moderation, of course), than a low-fat variety. Full-fat varieties make it much easier for your body to absorb the nutrients and whatnot in the salad. Low-fat dressings are full of artificial crap, higher in sugar generally, etc.

I like to roll with olive oil and a touch of vinegarette sometimes, since you still get the benefit of the healthy fat. tl;nr low-fat dressings are not worth whatever insignificant decrease in calories they cause.


that was a big reason why I asked. I'm trying to cut out as much artificial crap as I can. I used to drink Coke Zero but I was having kidney stones on a regular basis. I went back to full sugar Coke but cut down on how much of it I drink so that I wouldn't take a big hit on the calories. haven't had a kidney stone since. I also switched to using raw sugar in my coffee rather than white sugar or Splenda.
when it comes to salad dressing I'm a big fan of balsamic and oil. typically I dip my fork in the dressing rather than pour it all over the salad. I still get the flavor and (hopefully) keep the actual amount of dressing I ingest down to a minimum.
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Re: Gym/Exercise Thread

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:00 am

Letang Is The Truth wrote:
Troy Loney wrote:That is good advice, but is your problem that you find running too boring?


probably a little bit of both :slug:


by this i mean it seems mind numbingly terrible to run 13 miles, but from a fitness perspective it makes me want to throw up twice
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Re: Gym/Exercise Thread

Postby shoeshine boy on Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:03 am

Letang Is The Truth wrote:was signed up for half marathon in may. probably cant run a mile without wanting to kill myself. any advice?



I hate running. a lot. there are several great apps for running usually called some variant of Couch to 5K. I used these for a year before I decided that running is just totally not for me and just picked up my walking pace.
my advice though is to go to a store for running shoes (i.e not Sports Authority) and get fit for a proper pair of shoes. wearing the right shoes for you can make a HUGE difference.
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Re: Gym/Exercise Thread

Postby Troy Loney on Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:10 am

Letang Is The Truth wrote:
Letang Is The Truth wrote:
Troy Loney wrote:That is good advice, but is your problem that you find running too boring?


probably a little bit of both :slug:


by this i mean it seems mind numbingly terrible to run 13 miles, but from a fitness perspective it makes me want to throw up twice


My advice, definitely don't use the treadmill. Get some good weather appropriate running great, an ipod/iphone armband and make a good playlist. The armbands that go around your bicep always worked the best for me. Also find some good routes.

Are you still over in shadyside? When I lived on ellsworth my run would go like this.

Into oakland, then schenley park to squirrel hill to beachwood, down the hill to 5th and then home. I like traversing the different neighborhoods. There's some good people watching in oakland and the squirrel hill business district, and then I like looking at the massive houses on beachwood.
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Re: Gym/Exercise Thread

Postby tifosi77 on Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:40 pm

Godric wrote:
tifosi77 wrote:
Starting to get back into a fitness routine, but I want to make sure things are sorted before I apply full throttle.


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Google Google Google.......

:shock:

Really?

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Re: Gym/Exercise Thread

Postby Godric on Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:48 pm

tifosi77 wrote:
Godric wrote:
tifosi77 wrote:
Starting to get back into a fitness routine, but I want to make sure things are sorted before I apply full throttle.


Somatrophin

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Google Google Google.......

:shock:

Really?

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How do you think Adrian Peterson did it lol
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Re: Gym/Exercise Thread

Postby tifosi77 on Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:53 pm

PensFanInDC wrote:
tifosi77 wrote:Looking for suggestions for stabilizing and strengthening the shoulder. A couple years ago I jacked my shoulder doing plyometric pushups, and I hadn't been able to support my own body weight through more than 2-3 pushups since. When there is the slightest amount of load in the joint, it pops after just a few degrees of movement. Been focusing on stretching and flexibility the past couple months, and today was the first time since the injury that I could do multiple pushup movements (yoga vinyasas) without falling flat on my face.

Starting to get back into a fitness routine, but I want to make sure things are sorted before I apply full throttle.


Need more info. Is lateral or linear movement affected or both? Was it a rotator cuff issue?

It isn't a pain thing, there's actually no pain at all associated with it. There's just little to no structural integrity.

Whenever any load goes through the (left) should joint, it craps out. Be it a pushup, or a fly, or a press, or a pullup. The joint poops out unloaded when raising my arm laterally, straight out to the side; for over a year I could not raise my arm past horizontal in that position. It's only been the last month or so that I have full range of motion, but even so the joint still pops a lot. Sitting here at my desk, if I press very lightly with my right hand against the top of my left shoulder (or the trap) and rotate my arm, it sounds and feels like the joint has been replaced with a sack full of Rice Krispies.

My chiropractor attended to the issue a few times, and there was a noticeable adhesion on the outer delt (which he thought might have been scar tissue from the untreated injury from the plyo pushup). And I have chronic issues in the rhomboids in my back, particularly around the left scapula (which seems as if it's always slightly out of position).
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Re: Gym/Exercise Thread

Postby Dickie Dunn on Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:01 pm

tifosi77 wrote:
PensFanInDC wrote:
tifosi77 wrote:Looking for suggestions for stabilizing and strengthening the shoulder. A couple years ago I jacked my shoulder doing plyometric pushups, and I hadn't been able to support my own body weight through more than 2-3 pushups since. When there is the slightest amount of load in the joint, it pops after just a few degrees of movement. Been focusing on stretching and flexibility the past couple months, and today was the first time since the injury that I could do multiple pushup movements (yoga vinyasas) without falling flat on my face.

Starting to get back into a fitness routine, but I want to make sure things are sorted before I apply full throttle.


Need more info. Is lateral or linear movement affected or both? Was it a rotator cuff issue?

It isn't a pain thing, there's actually no pain at all associated with it. There's just little to no structural integrity.

Whenever any load goes through the (left) should joint, it craps out. Be it a pushup, or a fly, or a press, or a pullup. The joint poops out unloaded when raising my arm laterally, straight out to the side; for over a year I could not raise my arm past horizontal in that position. It's only been the last month or so that I have full range of motion, but even so the joint still pops a lot. Sitting here at my desk, if I press very lightly with my right hand against the top of my left shoulder (or the trap) and rotate my arm, it sounds and feels like the joint has been replaced with a sack full of Rice Krispies.

My chiropractor attended to the issue a few times, and there was a noticeable adhesion on the outer delt (which he thought might have been scar tissue from the untreated injury from the plyo pushup). And I have chronic issues in the rhomboids in my back, particularly around the left scapula (which seems as if it's always slightly out of position).


I'm not a doctor, but it sounds like your shoulder just sucks. Once again, I'm not a doctor, but face pulls helped strengthen my sucky shoulder.

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Re: Gym/Exercise Thread

Postby Grunthy on Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:08 pm

Tif you probably tore your labrum in your shoulder. Which is why you couldn't lift past horizontal.
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Re: Gym/Exercise Thread

Postby pensfan1989 on Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:15 pm

shoeshine boy wrote:
pensfan1989 wrote:
2-3 cans a day. Also replaced lunch with a salad everyday.


interesting. I've been considering this as well. what kind of dressing are you using for your salad?


Just some kind of Kraft Italian.
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Re: Gym/Exercise Thread

Postby PensFanInDC on Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:25 pm

tifosi77 wrote:
PensFanInDC wrote:
tifosi77 wrote:Looking for suggestions for stabilizing and strengthening the shoulder. A couple years ago I jacked my shoulder doing plyometric pushups, and I hadn't been able to support my own body weight through more than 2-3 pushups since. When there is the slightest amount of load in the joint, it pops after just a few degrees of movement. Been focusing on stretching and flexibility the past couple months, and today was the first time since the injury that I could do multiple pushup movements (yoga vinyasas) without falling flat on my face.

Starting to get back into a fitness routine, but I want to make sure things are sorted before I apply full throttle.


Need more info. Is lateral or linear movement affected or both? Was it a rotator cuff issue?

It isn't a pain thing, there's actually no pain at all associated with it. There's just little to no structural integrity.

Whenever any load goes through the (left) should joint, it craps out. Be it a pushup, or a fly, or a press, or a pullup. The joint poops out unloaded when raising my arm laterally, straight out to the side; for over a year I could not raise my arm past horizontal in that position. It's only been the last month or so that I have full range of motion, but even so the joint still pops a lot. Sitting here at my desk, if I press very lightly with my right hand against the top of my left shoulder (or the trap) and rotate my arm, it sounds and feels like the joint has been replaced with a sack full of Rice Krispies.

My chiropractor attended to the issue a few times, and there was a noticeable adhesion on the outer delt (which he thought might have been scar tissue from the untreated injury from the plyo pushup). And I have chronic issues in the rhomboids in my back, particularly around the left scapula (which seems as if it's always slightly out of position).


This is definitely something you want to see an orthopedist about. It's way out of my minimal knowledge. It sounds like it's structural and not muscular so strengthening the muscles around the effected area is usually the best course of action but with the other symptoms and issues you described I would say go to the doctor.

I'm surprised that your chiropractor couldn't fix it. That would have been my first suggestions.
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Re: Gym/Exercise Thread

Postby tifosi77 on Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:43 pm

Grunthy, I have a friend who tore his labrum (at the same time as he tore his pec) and he said the same thing.

But in all honesty the bigger concern for me has been the rhomboid issue. That causes all manner of discomfort at my (desk jockey) job, and as such is far more pressing. If the shoulder thing is mostly structural, I'm sure if I asked my chiro to focus on it more we could get it sorted. But if it's the labrum, that sounds more medical in nature. Blegh.

Also starting to have IT band issues, particularly on top of my left calf. Sitting here now, post cardio workout, with a stim pack on it trying to loosen it up prior to ye Rumble Roller treatment to get rid of an ungodly knot.
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