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Re: Help with nautical deck ideas - UPDATED with progress

Postby mac5155 on Wed May 23, 2012 12:28 pm

cheesesteakwithegg wrote:I want to build a flower bed in my yard this weekend. Does anyone have any recommendations on what type of edging stones / bricks to use to outline / build the bed with?


I think they are all basically the same. I would go with something from Walmart but that's just me. It depends on what kind of look you want.
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Re: Help with nautical deck ideas - UPDATED with progress

Postby Defence21 on Wed May 23, 2012 12:53 pm

cheesesteakwithegg wrote:I want to build a flower bed in my yard this weekend. Does anyone have any recommendations on what type of edging stones / bricks to use to outline / build the bed with?

It's all based on personal preference and budget. Me, I was on a limited budget and simply used stones from a riverbed. Initially, I thought the idea was bad, but really needed something to set a defined boundary. Once finished, I was really happy with the result. As for purchased materials, you can go with recycled bricks that are put end to end or even put in the ground at an angle. You can also go with landscaping bricks, which generally are more decorative. And most expensive would be landscape retaining wall block -- which I'd only use if making a significantly large bed.

My recommendations in order of preference:

1. River rock. It's free, and if used in limited quantities, is really nice. If you want to see what I've done, I'd be glad to snap a few photos and post them.
Rough idea I found online - http://a-yard.com/wp-content/gallery/ga ... border.jpg

2. Landscaping timbers (which I didn't list above). If you're building a defined flower bed/garden that is square or rectangular in shape, this are cheap, easy to work with, and effective. Plus, they can be stained toy our color of choice, and end up looking great.
Vertical - http://www.leavesandlifestyles.co.uk/ac ... -small.jpg
Horizontal - http://weblogs.dailypress.com/features/ ... %20bed.jpg

3. Landscape pavers. They can range from tacky to classy.
Tacky - http://static.houstonproservices.com/im ... lop-01.jpg
Classy - http://prideandjoylandscaping.com/edgin ... edging.jpg

4. Block. Very nice, but can be clunky in small spaces and can get expensive in large spaces.
Example - http://www.drockcenter.com/images/marshal_ex.jpg

5. Recycled bricks. Not a fan.
Tacky - http://img.ehowcdn.com/thumbnail-140x14 ... 00x800.jpg
Ok - http://homebuilding.thefuntimesguide.co ... iveway.JPG

If you're going to buy, make sure you go to Lowes. Get gift cards at Giant Eagle for Fuel Perks, then go to your post office and get a moving package, which includes a 10% off Lowes coupon. If you need additional help, let me know -- I love landscaping and have done a good bit of it (as an amateur) over the last 15 years.
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Re: Help with nautical deck ideas - UPDATED with progress

Postby canaan on Wed May 23, 2012 1:03 pm

D21 is pretty spot-on in terms of what to use and what is tacky.
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Re: Help with nautical deck ideas - UPDATED with progress

Postby mac5155 on Wed May 23, 2012 1:20 pm

We just did our whole house with landscape timbers. They look ok. The house isn't ours, so we didnt want to put a ton of money into it. For $100, we got pine bark nuggets, and like 15 landscape timbers. They were on sale for $2 each at home depot. Tacky, maybe, but looks a hell of a lot better than it did before.
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Re: Help with nautical deck ideas - UPDATED with progress

Postby cheesesteakwithegg on Wed May 23, 2012 3:17 pm

Defence21 wrote:
cheesesteakwithegg wrote:I want to build a flower bed in my yard this weekend. Does anyone have any recommendations on what type of edging stones / bricks to use to outline / build the bed with?

It's all based on personal preference and budget. Me, I was on a limited budget and simply used stones from a riverbed. Initially, I thought the idea was bad, but really needed something to set a defined boundary. Once finished, I was really happy with the result. As for purchased materials, you can go with recycled bricks that are put end to end or even put in the ground at an angle. You can also go with landscaping bricks, which generally are more decorative. And most expensive would be landscape retaining wall block -- which I'd only use if making a significantly large bed.

My recommendations in order of preference:

1. River rock. It's free, and if used in limited quantities, is really nice. If you want to see what I've done, I'd be glad to snap a few photos and post them.
Rough idea I found online - http://a-yard.com/wp-content/gallery/ga ... border.jpg

2. Landscaping timbers (which I didn't list above). If you're building a defined flower bed/garden that is square or rectangular in shape, this are cheap, easy to work with, and effective. Plus, they can be stained toy our color of choice, and end up looking great.
Vertical - http://www.leavesandlifestyles.co.uk/ac ... -small.jpg
Horizontal - http://weblogs.dailypress.com/features/ ... %20bed.jpg

3. Landscape pavers. They can range from tacky to classy.
Tacky - http://static.houstonproservices.com/im ... lop-01.jpg
Classy - http://prideandjoylandscaping.com/edgin ... edging.jpg

4. Block. Very nice, but can be clunky in small spaces and can get expensive in large spaces.
Example - http://www.drockcenter.com/images/marshal_ex.jpg

5. Recycled bricks. Not a fan.
Tacky - http://img.ehowcdn.com/thumbnail-140x14 ... 00x800.jpg
Ok - http://homebuilding.thefuntimesguide.co ... iveway.JPG

If you're going to buy, make sure you go to Lowes. Get gift cards at Giant Eagle for Fuel Perks, then go to your post office and get a moving package, which includes a 10% off Lowes coupon. If you need additional help, let me know -- I love landscaping and have done a good bit of it (as an amateur) over the last 15 years.


Awesome stuff :thumb: Thanks!

Right now, I am leaving towards the classy landscape pavers. I am making a fairly small bed with a wooden windmill or well in the middle, surrounded by flowers. I am thinking that landscape pavers would be the best for this.

Also, any recommendations on what I should do to the ground / lay down before I plant my flowers (i.e. newspaper)? Should I dig a small trench to lay the pavers in? Or is just putting them on the ground OK? The piece of my yard that this is going in is flat. Sorry for all of the questions, first time doing anything like this.
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Re: Help with nautical deck ideas - UPDATED with progress

Postby Defence21 on Wed May 23, 2012 3:30 pm

cheesesteakwithegg wrote:Awesome stuff :thumb: Thanks!

Right now, I am leaving towards the classy landscape pavers. I am making a fairly small bed with a wooden windmill or well in the middle, surrounded by flowers. I am thinking that landscape pavers would be the best for this.

Also, any recommendations on what I should do to the ground / lay down before I plant my flowers (i.e. newspaper)? Should I dig a small trench to lay the pavers in? Or is just putting them on the ground OK? The piece of my yard that this is going in is flat. Sorry for all of the questions, first time doing anything like this.

Not a problem! I love landscaping and messing around in the yard. I don't follow any true rules -- I just do. If it fails, I try again!

Landscape pavers can be really nice -- especially if you get ones that are "natural" in color and vary slightly from paver to paver. If it was me, I would probably dig a trench to place the pavers at ground level or slightly above. If you have a manicured lawn (or even partially manicured), this will make work so much easier, as you can run your lawn mower wheel over the pavers, eliminating the need to run a weed-eater with each grass cut. If you trench them, I would say just put them in the ground and level them with dirt. No need to buy sand. If you don't trench them, just be sure to flatten the ground where they are going, which will help make a much more classy presentation.

As for the ground, if you are planting perrenials or shrubs, it wouldn't be a bad idea to buy a weed mat. Lay it out to the edge of your bed (including the space under the pavers), then place your pavers. If you haven't plante your flowers, cut "X"s into the mat where you want to dig. If you've already planted flowers, it's a bit more tricky. Finally, lay your mulch. Newspaper would work, but it will disintegrate with time and will become useless. Weed mat doesn't disintegrate. The thicker the mat, the better -- but the thicker, the more expensive. Mid-range is best, in my book. If you're doing annuals, newspaper would be best, as you'll be digging new holes each year.
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Re: Help with nautical deck ideas - UPDATED with progress

Postby cheesesteakwithegg on Wed May 23, 2012 3:40 pm

Good stuff. Right now I am leaning towards getting these from Lowes. I just need to decide the best shape to make the flower bed, what kind of flowers I want, and how big to make it.

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Re: Help with nautical deck ideas - UPDATED with progress

Postby mac5155 on Wed May 23, 2012 4:01 pm

Is that just a single level thing or are you stacking them?
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Re: Help with nautical deck ideas - UPDATED with progress

Postby cheesesteakwithegg on Wed May 23, 2012 4:12 pm

Probably just a single level, but I would consider stacking them if it would work / look right.
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Re: Help with nautical deck ideas - UPDATED with progress

Postby Defence21 on Thu May 24, 2012 10:24 am

Looking for ceramic accent tiles to complement cream tiles for my table-top. Preferably blue in color, and preferably compatable with a nautical theme. Any ideas? My primary tiles (based on the fact that they were given to me...not so much by choice) are cream and 4.25" x 4.25".

So far, the only thing I'm seeing is this:

http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/So ... oduct.html
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Re: Help with nautical deck ideas - UPDATED with progress

Postby Hockeynut! on Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:39 am

I have some deck questions and figured I'd post here rather than start a new thread.

I want to build a fairly small patio in my back yard. This will not be attached to the house. The ground is not level so I'm sure I'll need to put posts into the ground to "level" it up and then build the deck on top of those. The issue is, well, I'm clueless. I have never built anything of this scope before. and I'm not sure how complicated the process will be. I've assisted with a few decks, and putting the deck "floor" on doesn't seem to hard, but the sub structure has me pretty confused. Are there any good websites or books I should check out?Anyone have advice in general?
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Re: Help with nautical deck ideas - UPDATED with progress

Postby Defence21 on Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:15 pm

Hockeynut! wrote:I have some deck questions and figured I'd post here rather than start a new thread.

I want to build a fairly small patio in my back yard. This will not be attached to the house. The ground is not level so I'm sure I'll need to put posts into the ground to "level" it up and then build the deck on top of those. The issue is, well, I'm clueless. I have never built anything of this scope before. and I'm not sure how complicated the process will be. I've assisted with a few decks, and putting the deck "floor" on doesn't seem to hard, but the sub structure has me pretty confused. Are there any good websites or books I should check out?Anyone have advice in general?

I never saw your post, Hockeynut,but if it's not too late, I can offer some help -- though I was the apprentice, not the foreman, in my deck project.

I would check This Old House for tutorial videos, as they're very clear and informative. The process is tedious, but not overly difficult if you have patience. Once the structure is done, the job itself is pretty easy.
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Re: Help with nautical deck ideas - UPDATED with progress

Postby Defence21 on Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:25 pm

I have a follow-up question for the carpenters and/or handymen here. With the deck done, the next project is to add sizeable permanent planters on each end to provide a home for some blade grass -- neighbor's house immediately to the right and garage/garage roof immediately to the left make for unpleasant sight-lines that would be better served partially blocked.

So my thought is to attach a 2' x 4' planter to each end that is capable of holding two blade grass plants and the necessary dirt. Obviously, I'll need to anchor the one side of each box with posts put into the ground -- but would the other side be anchored sufficiently with joist hangers attached to the deck? I'm figuring I'll frame out the structure as I did the structure of the deck with several joists. Would it then be best to use decking or plywood to create the bottom? I'll also need to line the inside so the wood isn't rotted by the moisture from the wood, but how would I go about creating drainage holes in the liner (to prevent over saturation from rain and unnecessary water weight/stress) while not compromising the wood frame from seeping moisture?
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