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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League

Postby Idoit40fans on Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:34 pm

The only point of that post was to comment on not carrying a defense.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League

Postby CBear3 on Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:08 pm

Not having a lot of experience with Yahoo, my bigger worry was that Carlos Santana was going to loose his catcher eligibility.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League

Postby Idoit40fans on Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:10 pm

I dont' know how long you have him signed for, but you can't lose eligibility at a position during a season.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League

Postby Mr. Colby on Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:13 pm

Santana will be eligible next year he'll play enough C this season
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League

Postby Kraftster on Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:15 pm

No he won't, YAN GOMES 4 MVP.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League

Postby beerman on Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:16 pm

Yeah, I think its something like start 5 games at a position or make 10 appearances there? Either way its not terribly hard.

If Showalter would just start giving Machado some token SS appearances it would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League

Postby Troy Loney on Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:37 pm

Doing prepwork for my money draft.

Didn't realize how shallow SS is.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League

Postby Idoit40fans on Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:44 pm

Yeah, if I were doing a redraft league, I'd want to be one of the last few picks. If Hanley is available, take him, otherwise take Tulo when it swings back in the second. In any case, i'd have no problem reaching 3-4 picks on a SS to get one of those two because the dropoff at that position is probably the most significant of all of them.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League

Postby Kraftster on Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:46 pm

I go back and forth. One part of my says shallow, but the other part of me says its deeper than recent years. Heck, Brad Miller, who is probably around the #12 SS could easily produce 15/15 with room for 20/20 if everything clicks. You can say that about a lot of players I feel like. I think power is up at the position compared to recent years. I think the separation is more steals focused this year. In general I think its harder to get steals than HRs right now.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League

Postby Kraftster on Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:48 pm

Desmond is right there with those two, imo. Back to back 20/20 when considering the issues with Hanley and Tulo, I think its a big three. Then when you take a look at Segura's double digit pop and room for 40 steals, I think its a big four. There's a drop after that, yes, but I think within that group you have a lot of options. I think its more appropriate to say its top-heavy than its shallow because you can do okay with a late SS who is not going to kill you/be the reason you don't win your league.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League

Postby Troy Loney on Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:48 pm

I hope i get a pick in the top 4-6.

My top 4 is:

Trout
Cabrera
Ramirez
Kershaw

I don't think it'll go that way, but really just want one of those 4. My draft strategy is easier to organize on the fly if I can get one of those 4.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League

Postby Troy Loney on Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:51 pm

Kraftster wrote:Desmond is right there with those two, imo. Back to back 20/20 when considering the issues with Hanley and Tulo, I think its a big three. Then when you take a look at Segura's double digit pop and room for 40 steals, I think its a big four. There's a drop after that, yes, but I think within that group you have a lot of options. I think its more appropriate to say its top-heavy than its shallow because you can do okay with a late SS who is not going to kill you/be the reason you don't win your league.



ESPN has a 4th round value on Andrus who only helps in one category. Desmond (2) and Reyes (3) are inflated because of position scarcity. I think the dropoff from Hanley and Tulowitzki is big enough that if you don't get one of those two, you're better off with a late round flier on someone like Miller.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:52 pm

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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League

Postby Troy Loney on Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:55 pm

Hardy does look like pretty good value on the ESPN ranking, I have him at the bottom of my top 10 at the position.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League

Postby Idoit40fans on Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:04 pm

Troy Loney wrote:
Kraftster wrote:Desmond is right there with those two, imo. Back to back 20/20 when considering the issues with Hanley and Tulo, I think its a big three. Then when you take a look at Segura's double digit pop and room for 40 steals, I think its a big four. There's a drop after that, yes, but I think within that group you have a lot of options. I think its more appropriate to say its top-heavy than its shallow because you can do okay with a late SS who is not going to kill you/be the reason you don't win your league.



ESPN has a 4th round value on Andrus who only helps in one category. Desmond (2) and Reyes (3) are inflated because of position scarcity. I think the dropoff from Hanley and Tulowitzki is big enough that if you don't get one of those two, you're better off with a late round flier on someone like Miller.


Andrus is 2nd tier for runs scored and elite in SBs and he won't hurt you in average or obp, whatever you use. For a speed guy he gets decent RBIs too. He's a black hole for HRs though.

I was going to add that i'd be targeting him and Segura as the only next two I was interested in after Hanley and Tulo.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League

Postby Mr. Colby on Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:06 pm

Or you could take Andrelton Simmons :pop:

In all honesty though I played half of last year with my SS position empty and it still turned out fine.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League

Postby Kraftster on Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:06 pm

Andrus should contribute better than replacement value in runs for sure. I just can't imagine Desmond not being in the big 3.

72/25/73/21/.292
77/20/80/21/.280

ESPN is known for arcade projections on guys they like. Hanley is projected for 83/25/84/19/.300. I don't know, Desmond looks fine to me if you can get him rounds later than those other two. Tulo is not worth the risk, imo. No steals from a position where almost every other top option gives you 15+. Combine that with the injury risk and no thanks.

ESPN is way down on Segura. His second half stunk and that is what is sticking in people's minds. A lot of other outlets are much higher on him. If he produces 87/12/61/42/.297 (Oliver projection), it is definitely a big 4 at the position.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League

Postby Idoit40fans on Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:08 pm

Regarding Desmond: I don't like him.

With Regards to Segura, I don't know if you're using avg or obp, but I expect him to be a hinderance at those, but good to great at everything else. I'd like to have him, I just feel more comofrtable getting one of the top two early, because thats a position that concerns me, more than any other.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League

Postby Troy Loney on Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:09 pm

Well, it does just depend on how far he falls in the draft.

looking at some of the guys ESPN has below him that I would choose:

Ortiz, Bautista, Bumgarner, Pujols, Gonzalez, Fernandez, Mauer, Carpenter, Craig
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League

Postby Kraftster on Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:10 pm

Yeah, I sense that's true of many.

What is his ADP? If you average his past two years, yuo get 74.5/22.5/76.5/21/.286. If Hanley hits ESPN projections that's -8/-2/-8/+2/-.014. If he's, for example, 24 picks after Hanley, I'm probably skipping Hanley for Desmond.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League

Postby Idoit40fans on Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:11 pm

I'm afraid of Marlins pitchers. They're playing it fast and loose with them and I worry that they're all going to get hurt. Bumgarner is probably my favorite fantasy player period. I think Carpenter is going to be a disappointment to a lot of people. Not bad, but I think he's getting overdrafted.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League

Postby Kraftster on Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:12 pm

I was using average because I think that is standard. I don't think Segura's ever hit below .280.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League

Postby Kraftster on Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:13 pm

Carpenter is definitely overrated. Can't count on those counting stats again.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League

Postby Troy Loney on Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:14 pm

Kraftster wrote:Yeah, I sense that's true of many.

What is his ADP? If you average his past two years, yuo get 74.5/22.5/76.5/21/.286. If Hanley hits ESPN projections that's -8/-2/-8/+2/-.014. If he's, for example, 24 picks after Hanley, I'm probably skipping Hanley for Desmond.



I was talking andrus.

ESPN has Hanley 13, Tulo 16, Desmond 24.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League

Postby Idoit40fans on Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:15 pm

Wow I wasn't expecting Hanley to make it that far. Tulo seems about right.
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