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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League - Year 3

Postby Troy Loney on Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:08 am

Sam's Drunk Dog wrote:Can someone explain the rules and scoring?



Contract keeper league. The cap is 50 years, so you have 50 years worth of contracts to sign. You sign a guy for 5 years, that would mean your cap drops to 45.

Once contract expires the guy goes back to the draft. Every other year each team gets a resign to use.

You also have a 20 roster farm team. You can bring guys up from the farm as IR replacement, but if you want them on the Big League team sans that IR spot, you have to give them a contract. So that's why you might not want to max out to 50 years going into each season. Also you have 12? buyout years each season. That's for waiver moves pretty much, if you want to cut a guy and sign someone else. Say you cut a guy on a 2 year deal and pick someone up to a one year deal. you would be down to 10 buyout years and your cap years would drop by one if you did a two for one there. Say you had 48 years (2) +1 =47.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League - Year 3

Postby Idoit40fans on Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:12 am

To clarify, in the first year of that 5 year deal, his cap hit is 5, in the second year 4, and so on. The cap hit for any given year is equal to how many years remain on the contract.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League - Year 3

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:19 am

including the current year
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League - Year 3

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:20 am

if we buy people out now, does it count towards our limit for 2013 or 2012
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League - Year 3

Postby Kraftster on Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:21 am

I won't have a re-sign by the end of next year, so I am interested in acquiring one or would consider dealing Felix Hernandez, who is in the final year of his contract.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League - Year 3

Postby Kraftster on Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:22 am

Letang Is The Truth wrote:if we buy people out now, does it count towards our limit for 2013 or 2012


Last year if you have years left, although I personally don't care for allowing that.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League - Year 3

Postby Loaf31 on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:04 am

Kraft...... do you remember what you had Desmond signed to when we made that deal last year?
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League - Year 3

Postby Kraftster on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:04 am

I don't believe that was me. LITT maybe?
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League - Year 3

Postby Loaf31 on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:07 am

Kraftster wrote:I don't believe that was me. LITT maybe?


It was in the Kinsler deal
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League - Year 3

Postby Kraftster on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:08 am

Loaf31 wrote:
Kraftster wrote:I don't believe that was me. LITT maybe?


It was in the Kinsler deal


Oh, for some reason I read that as (Desmond) Jennings.

(Ian) Desmond was 2, so he has another year left.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League - Year 3

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:08 am

ian desmond or desmond jennings?
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League - Year 3

Postby Idoit40fans on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:26 am

Idoit40fans wrote:What did we determine about Teixeira? He's either FA or I have him for 2 more years.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League - Year 3

Postby Troy Loney on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:28 am

Not sure what your talking about?
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League - Year 3

Postby Idoit40fans on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:29 am

Kraftster bought out Tex in September, so I bought out Werth and Signed him for 3 years. People didn't like that. I don't see anything wrong with it though as he was an FA.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League - Year 3

Postby Kraftster on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:30 am

I think the best thing to do is call it the Idoit Rule and institute out going forward and just give you Teixeira.

The rule would be that after MLB rosters are expanded players who are dropped by one team cannot be signed to multi-year deals. I was forced to drop Teixeira last year because I was in the championship race and he was injured for the rest of the season (almost) but was not designated as DL (because teams have no reason to use DL).
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League - Year 3

Postby Kraftster on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:32 am

Idoit40fans wrote:Kraftster bought out Tex in September, so I bought out Werth and Signed him for 3 years. People didn't like that. I don't see anything wrong with it though as he was an FA.


Haha, you know it wasn't that simple -- going forward at least. Last year with no rule I guess you can fairly call him a straight FA, but the circumstances are specific and somewhat unique.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League - Year 3

Postby Idoit40fans on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:35 am

I don't care what happens with Tex, make him a Free Agent. I am against this rule being put in place moving forward though, it does not make any sense.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League - Year 3

Postby Troy Loney on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:36 am

Oh. Maybe going forward we should ditch the expanded rosters thing.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League - Year 3

Postby Troy Loney on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:37 am

Based on the current rules, there's no reason Idoit should not be able to get Tex. If anything, I'd think we should reduce buyout years. I think everyone just ends up with ample buyout years and can easily hack moves like that whenever.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League - Year 3

Postby Idoit40fans on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:37 am

I had to buy someone else out to get him, you can't dilute the FA pool, thats why we have cap rules and only 12 re-signings total for every 2 seasons.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League - Year 3

Postby Idoit40fans on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:39 am

Regardless though, my vote is against any restriction of when and how long you can sign someone for. I agree that buyout years should be reduced. 10 is plenty, I would be open to less even.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League - Year 3

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:39 am

Troy Loney wrote:Based on the current rules, there's no reason Idoit should not be able to get Tex. If anything, I'd think we should reduce buyout years. I think everyone just ends up with ample buyout years and can easily hack moves like that whenever.


raburn morrison francisco?
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League - Year 3

Postby Kraftster on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:41 am

Troy Loney wrote:Oh. Maybe going forward we should ditch the expanded rosters thing.


Its not a fantasy thing, its an MLB thing. In yahoo! we can't expand the rosters anyway.

The issue is, MLB teams don't use DL after rosters expand. If a team is in the hunt and has a guy with only 1 year left get injured for the rest of the year, he will have to waste a roster spot on that guy or risk the player being signed to a multi-year deal for free. That player could be anyone from Mark Teixeira to Trevor Plouffe to Felix Hernandez. Just doesn't make sense to me that the only options should be: (a) a team contending handicaps itself for the good of the league or (b) someone gets a free player who could potentially be the #1 overall pick the next year.

If those are the options under the current rules, it seems like a clear situation where a new rule to create a more appealing alternative option needs to be introduced.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League - Year 3

Postby Troy Loney on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:43 am

Letang Is The Truth wrote:
Troy Loney wrote:Based on the current rules, there's no reason Idoit should not be able to get Tex. If anything, I'd think we should reduce buyout years. I think everyone just ends up with ample buyout years and can easily hack moves like that whenever.


raburn morrison francisco?


Exactly.
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Re: LGP Fantasy Baseball League - Year 3

Postby Kraftster on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:43 am

Letang Is The Truth wrote:
Troy Loney wrote:Based on the current rules, there's no reason Idoit should not be able to get Tex. If anything, I'd think we should reduce buyout years. I think everyone just ends up with ample buyout years and can easily hack moves like that whenever.


raburn morrison francisco?


Yes, this is why I don't like off-season buyouts with last year's years. Teams who made no waiver moves because they stopped paying attention to the league can be a clearing house for every bad contract in the league. Bad contracts pose no real risk if you can use "dead" buyout years to get rid of them.
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