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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

Postby columbia on Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:20 pm

Rocco wrote:
columbia wrote:
Rocco wrote:
columbia wrote:I'll stop when people stop defending his virtue; you know, those scholarships really make up for utter moral failure.


You're the one that brought up the scholarships in the first place in this thread.


Nope. see mac5155, whom I quoted earlier from this thread.


viewtopic.php?f=5&t=58980&start=100#p2131433

Had no idea you were quoting from a post 3 days ago based on that. Either way, you're the one rolling the ball bearings on this for reasons not completely known.


His inaction is well known.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

Postby Troy Loney on Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:32 pm

shafnutz05 wrote:
columbia wrote:I'll stop when people stop defending his virtue; you know, those scholarships really make up for utter moral failure.


I don't want to get drawn into this argument again, but I look at someone's whole body of work. I believe he did a ton of good in his lifetime, but later in his life, failed horribly when he could have done the right thing. I look at his legacy by taking EVERYTHING he did, good and bad, over the last sixty years. I think he was a good man that really crapped the bed morally and in terms of leadership with the Sandusky case. Why is that so hard to understand?

If you think his legacy should be 100% about the Sandusky case, and all of the good he did over many decades should be completely erased due to that, then more power to you. That's just not the way I think.


He did great things for his players, his community and PSU. But this case shows when push comes to shove, he was phony and a terrible person.....turning a blind eye on a serial pedophile because of the potential bad publicity is disgusting. And anyone here that thinks he did everything he was obligated to do by reporting to his "superior" is deliberately naive.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

Postby DudeMan2766 on Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:38 pm

Troy Loney wrote:
shafnutz05 wrote:
columbia wrote:I'll stop when people stop defending his virtue; you know, those scholarships really make up for utter moral failure.


I don't want to get drawn into this argument again, but I look at someone's whole body of work. I believe he did a ton of good in his lifetime, but later in his life, failed horribly when he could have done the right thing. I look at his legacy by taking EVERYTHING he did, good and bad, over the last sixty years. I think he was a good man that really crapped the bed morally and in terms of leadership with the Sandusky case. Why is that so hard to understand?

If you think his legacy should be 100% about the Sandusky case, and all of the good he did over many decades should be completely erased due to that, then more power to you. That's just not the way I think.


He did great things for his players, his community and PSU. But this case shows when push comes to shove, he was phony and a terrible person.....turning a blind eye on a serial pedophile because of the potential bad publicity is disgusting. And anyone here that thinks he did everything he was obligated to do by reporting to his "superior" is deliberately naive.


How many times does it need to be said that NO ONE here is saying that. Just drop it so we have a place to discuss and follow this trial. NO ONE is absolving Paterno, just not bothering to harp on it because it was already discussed in a thread that got deleted. This is about the on going trial. Had Paterno still been alive and testifie in this, okay maybe thats a discussion we can have. But this thread was fine until someone keeps making comments which is looking more and more like an attempt to troll.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

Postby Hockeynut! on Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:40 pm

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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

Postby columbia on Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:42 pm

The correct historical record is not a troll.
Those who want to ignore it, for the sake of a legacy, are the real trolls.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

Postby shafnutz05 on Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:44 pm

Then, please start another thread titled "The True Legacy of Joe Paterno". This thread is meant to discuss the Jerry Sandusky trial, as it clearly states in the title of the thread.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

Postby Staggy on Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:48 pm

columbia wrote:The correct historical record is not a troll.
Those who want to ignore it, for the sake of a legacy, are the real trolls.


What you're harping on has nothing to do with the thread. No one is refuting what you're saying, it's just not the correct thread for it. If you want to discuss it further, then create your own thread.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

Postby columbia on Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:49 pm

You're certainly intelligent enough to know that they are not unrelated. *


* Minus points for a double negative?
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

Postby columbia on Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:52 pm

The don't discuss it here thinking:

Cancer patients should only discuss it with their physician, but not with their family?
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

Postby skullman80 on Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:53 pm

As maker of this thread.. get the Paterno crap out of here. This thread isn't about Paterno. It's about the Sandusky trial.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

Postby columbia on Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:54 pm

skullman80 wrote:As maker of this thread.. get the Paterno crap out of here. This thread isn't about Paterno. It's about the Sandusky trial.


Sure, he had no involvement is the potential process of earlier and swifter justice.
It's amazing how that only applies to JoePa and no one else, who was aware of that pervert.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

Postby skullman80 on Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:55 pm

I don't care.

Get it out of this thread. Period.

I hate PSU and Paterno, but this is about Sandusky and his trial.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

Postby shafnutz05 on Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:56 pm

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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

Postby Rocco on Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:06 pm

columbia wrote:
skullman80 wrote:As maker of this thread.. get the Paterno crap out of here. This thread isn't about Paterno. It's about the Sandusky trial.


Sure, he had no involvement is the potential process of earlier and swifter justice.
It's amazing how that only applies to JoePa and no one else, who was aware of that pervert.


How much does it burn you that Paterno never broke the law and couldn't be charged with anything?
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

Postby columbia on Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:10 pm

skullman80 wrote:I don't care.

Get it out of this thread. Period.

I hate PSU and Paterno, but this is about Sandusky and his trial.


Those children care quite a bit.
Paterno and many other failed them.

I just want people to show the appropriate courage to list him equally alongside the others, whom have been railed against.

Why is that so difficult?
Is football that important?
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

Postby columbia on Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:12 pm

Rocco wrote:
columbia wrote:
skullman80 wrote:As maker of this thread.. get the Paterno crap out of here. This thread isn't about Paterno. It's about the Sandusky trial.


Sure, he had no involvement is the potential process of earlier and swifter justice.
It's amazing how that only applies to JoePa and no one else, who was aware of that pervert.


How much does it burn you that Paterno never broke the law and couldn't be charged with anything?


The law is your standard of humanity?
That's pathetic.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

Postby SolidSnake on Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:15 pm

For the love of pete
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

Postby Hockeynut! on Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:23 pm

I'm sorry, but this is hilarious.

Columbia: "Paterno is the most evil, horrible person ever!"

Everyone else: "We agree but we've already gone over that. Let's stick to the trial."

Columbia: "How dare you absolve Paterno of his sins. He may as well have raped those children himself!"

Everyone else: "We're not absolving him of anything. He failed those boys and lost our respect."

Columbia: "You're all just a bunch of Paterno apologists!!!"

And round and round it goes.

Just fyi, I don't give a *pizza* about Paterno, PSU or college football.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

Postby Pitts on Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:26 pm

columbia wrote:The correct historical record is not a troll.
Those who want to ignore it, for the sake of a legacy, are the real trolls.

Posting the same thing over and over and over again when no one really disputes your point is a TROLL. Please shut up.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

Postby columbia on Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:28 pm

Gotcha.
Speaking the truth = TROLL.

If there were no dispute, I would have only posted once on the subject.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

Postby Rocco on Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:30 pm

columbia wrote:
Rocco wrote:
columbia wrote:
skullman80 wrote:As maker of this thread.. get the Paterno crap out of here. This thread isn't about Paterno. It's about the Sandusky trial.


Sure, he had no involvement is the potential process of earlier and swifter justice.
It's amazing how that only applies to JoePa and no one else, who was aware of that pervert.


How much does it burn you that Paterno never broke the law and couldn't be charged with anything?


The law is your standard of humanity?
That's pathetic.


It's a simple question.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

Postby DudeMan2766 on Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:33 pm

how many people need to say to you that they agree Paterno was part of the problem before you stop acting like no one is saying it? You're just trying to get a thread deleted. EVERYONE has agreed with you, but asking you to move on and talk about the trial. You refuse to do that.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

Postby columbia on Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:35 pm

Rocco wrote:
columbia wrote:
Rocco wrote:
columbia wrote:
skullman80 wrote:As maker of this thread.. get the Paterno crap out of here. This thread isn't about Paterno. It's about the Sandusky trial.


Sure, he had no involvement is the potential process of earlier and swifter justice.
It's amazing how that only applies to JoePa and no one else, who was aware of that pervert.


How much does it burn you that Paterno never broke the law and couldn't be charged with anything?


The law is your standard of humanity?
That's pathetic.


It's a simple question.


I didn't realize that one could indict a corpse; but hey, we need to preserve that reputation.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

Postby Rocco on Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:37 pm

columbia wrote:I didn't realize that one could indict a corpse; but hey, we need to preserve that reputation.


You made it clear that death made no difference to you earlier in the thread.

They had the chance to charge him when he was alive but didn't, presumably because he broke no laws. So for the 3rd time, how much does it burn you that they couldn't find anything to charge him with?
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

Postby skullman80 on Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:38 pm

Is there a way I can just delete this thread since I started it?
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