2012-13 NFL thread (non-Steelers edition)

[shmenguin]

the guy saying that stuff is black, right? people don't like this explanation, but black people talking about black people is generally none of our business.

[JS©]

I just witnessed the most assinine conversation on First Take. They were discussing RG III's "blackness"

Rob Parker (who's presence on the show always seems to bring up a race issue) said he questions whether RGIII is distancing himself from black people because of the way he carries himself, he said he's not out to be the best [i]black[i] anything, just wants to be the best period, he's a republican, he has a white fiance etc. And he said quote "He questioned whether he's one of us, or a cornball brother." How is this acceptable?

Because there has never been another black republican, a black person with a white fiance, etc? So because RGIII is doing his best to not make race an issue (or at least that's what I took from it), Rob Parker is doing his best to make sure it's a race issue. With statements about being "one of us", Rob Parker should maybe look in the mirror if he's wondering why there's racism in this country.

[DudeMan2766]

I get why its different than a white guy talking about stuff like this, but this is on national tv. Not to mention its insulting to the person they are discussing. And they had white people in this conversation. And another black guy said he was uncomfortable with where he (Parker) was going with his questions and accusations. Were supposed to be eliminating racism, but they you have black people accusing others of not being black enough or in turn "too white" That just shouldnt be allowed to be discussed on a station like ESPN.

[shafnutz05]

people don't like this explanation, but black people talking about black people is generally none of our business.

Eh, this isn't really true. Griffin has been an incredible ambassador for the league since he was drafted. He's incredibly intelligent, modest, truly thankful for the gifts he's been given, and is one of the most fan-friendly athletes in recent history that have the talent to back it up. When racists like Parker are criticizing everything about him, including the vile act of marrying a white woman, he absolutely deserves and should be called on it by everyone. Simply put, the guy doesn't deserve to have his "black credentials" dragged through the dirt.

I'm sure Parker would be more pleased if Griffin was getting DUIs, having his picture taken in nightclubs, or getting unsportsmanlikes on the field. That's an embarrassment to ESPN for even having this guy on First Take, which is a joke of a show to begin with.

And while I get the point of your reasoning (as crappy as it is), it's a pretty lousy cop-out that allows people to say some pretty vile things.

[PghSkins]

I have no idea who Rob Parker is.

[the wicked child]

I have no idea who Rob Parker is.

I don't either, but he's obviously an *******.

[DudeMan2766]

An ESPN talking head.

[Froggy]

Wasn't he the dude who managed Harlem Heat back in the 90s?

[MWB]

people don't like this explanation, but black people talking about black people is generally none of our business.

Eh, this isn't really true. Griffin has been an incredible ambassador for the league since he was drafted. He's incredibly intelligent, modest, truly thankful for the gifts he's been given, and is one of the most fan-friendly athletes in recent history that have the talent to back it up. When racists like Parker are criticizing everything about him, including the vile act of marrying a white woman, he absolutely deserves and should be called on it by everyone. Simply put, the guy doesn't deserve to have his "black credentials" dragged through the dirt.

I'm sure Parker would be more pleased if Griffin was getting DUIs, having his picture taken in nightclubs, or getting unsportsmanlikes on the field. That's an embarrassment to ESPN for even having this guy on First Take, which is a joke of a show to begin with.

And while I get the point of your reasoning (as crappy as it is), it's a pretty lousy cop-out that allows people to say some pretty vile things.

Agree. This issue seems to pop up every now and then. Same thing happened with Jordan when people wanted him to be more politically influential. His response: "Republicans buy sneakers too." I get that people feel the need to comment on every popular athlete, but some of the commentary is just to gin up controversy where there isn't any.

[Alejandro Rojas]

An ESPN talking head and "obviously an ******" seem redundant.

[Sam's Drunk Dog]

Thanks for nothing Eagles

[shafnutz05]

lolololololololol Eagles...you honestly can't make this stuff up. Their punter kicks the ball into his blocker's ass

[Alejandro Rojas]

Imagine if Cincy hadn't blown that lead against Dallas.

[Idoit40fans]

I know Dallas got a call, but I wonder when people will realize that Dallas plays insanely well in the second half of games. When they kept it close in the first half, I knew they were at least going to have a shot at the end of the game...didn't think it would be that close though.

[Lt. Dish]

Do we think the Eagles could get something going?

[Lt. Dish]

Throw it to Riley Cooper.

[Lt. Dish]

Thank you!!!

[shafnutz05]

Pacman Jones is the stereotypical mentally retarded thug

[Alejandro Rojas]

Well he went to WVU

[Rocco]

Don't get excited, Philly will blow this game. I have faith in them.

[Lt. Dish]

Don't get excited, Philly will blow this game. I have faith in them.

I'm with you.

[llipgh2]

I have no idea who Rob Parker is.

He's an ex-Detroit Free Press sportswriter who works for ESPN as a "commentator".

He made Stephen A. Smith sound like the voice of reason. Shows you how big a dbag he is.

Baron Batch slammed him on twitter. So did some other more high profile players.

[Rylan]

I like Stephen A though. :shrugs: And I like First Take whenever its Skip and Stephen A. but whenever its Rob Parker I immediately turned it off.

First Take was what I would watch in the mornings while I was in the hospital so it grew on me.

[JS©]

Wasn't he the dude who managed Harlem Heat back in the 90s?

Was he the guy that told Booker T to take what he wants and to get the gold, sucka?

[Lt. Dish]

Yeah, so... 14 points in, like, 2 minutes.

The Eagles have handed the game to them with turnovers on the Eagles' side of the field. And they did it again!!!!!! OMG.