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U.S. Ambassador to Libya Killed in mob attack at Consulate

Postby shafnutz05 on Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:32 pm

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/12/us-libya-usa-attack-idUSBRE88B0EI20120912

The U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other embassy staff were killed in a rocket attack on their car, a Libyan official said, as they were rushed from a consular building stormed by militants denouncing a U.S.-made film insulting the Prophet Mohammad.
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Re: Ultraconservative Islamists storm US Embassy in Egypt

Postby count2infinity on Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:36 pm

ridiculous.
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Re: Ultraconservative Islamists storm US Embassy in Egypt

Postby DocEmrick on Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:37 pm

And to think, Egypt was once a great empire...
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Re: Ultraconservative Islamists storm US Embassy in Egypt

Postby DocEmrick on Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:37 pm

But most of you should know by now the "Arab Spring" never really happened, it was indeed propaganda promoting that the Middle East "had been won."
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Re: Ultraconservative Islamists storm US Embassy in Egypt

Postby roland on Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:00 pm

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Re: Ultraconservative Islamists storm US Embassy in Egypt

Postby thepittman on Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:09 pm

DocEmrick wrote:And to think, Egypt was once a great empire...


Before Islam
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Re: Ultraconservative Islamists storm US Embassy in Egypt

Postby roland on Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:21 pm

meh.

after reading another article and seeing this:

"About 20 people stood on top of the embassy wall, while about 2,000 protesters gathered outside. The demonstrators were mainly supporters of Islamist groups or "ultras" youths."


"He called on President Mohamed Mursi ... to take action, without giving details of the film that angered him or other protesters."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/ ... 1?irpc=932


Apparently the other 83,686,144 people in the country couldn't care less.
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Re: Ultraconservative Islamists storm US Embassy in Egypt

Postby shafnutz05 on Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:25 pm

In other news, the US consulate in Libya has been attacked by armed radicals that have apparently set the building on fire. "Meh"
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Re: Ultraconservative Islamists storm US Embassy in Egypt

Postby Godric on Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:48 pm



Anyone else think of this?
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Re: Ultraconservative Islamists storm US Embassy in Egypt

Postby Gaucho on Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:34 pm

Godric wrote:
Anyone think?
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Re: Ultraconservative Islamists storm US Embassy in Egypt

Postby Godric on Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:37 pm

Gaucho wrote:
Godric wrote:
Anyone think?


:thumb:
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Re: Ultraconservative Islamists storm US Embassy in Egypt

Postby shafnutz05 on Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:25 pm

One American murdered, another wounded in Benghazi
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Re: Ultraconservative Islamists storm US Embassy in Egypt

Postby Godric on Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:30 pm

shafnutz05 wrote:One American murdered, another wounded in Benghazi


This is the kinda **** that starts another war :-/
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Re: Ultraconservative Islamists storm US Embassy in Egypt

Postby Mongoose87 on Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:48 pm

thepittman wrote:
DocEmrick wrote:And to think, Egypt was once a great empire...


Before Islam

Obviously you've never heard of Salah ad-Din.
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Re: Ultraconservative Islamists storm US Embassy in Egypt

Postby MRandall25 on Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:37 pm

Godric wrote:
shafnutz05 wrote:One American murdered, another wounded in Benghazi


This is the kinda **** that starts another war :-/


Not really...
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Re: Ultraconservative Islamists storm US Embassy in Egypt

Postby shafnutz05 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:56 am

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/12/us-libya-usa-attack-idUSBRE88B0EI20120912

The U.S. Ambassador to Libya and three of his staffers have been killed in a rocket attack on their car as they were rushed from a consular building to safety.

The U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other embassy staff were killed in a rocket attack on their car, a Libyan official said, as they were rushed from a consular building stormed by militants denouncing a U.S.-made film insulting the Prophet Mohammad.

Gunmen had attacked and burned the U.S. consulate in the eastern city of Benghazi, a center of last year's uprising against Muammar Gaddafi, late on Tuesday evening, killing one U.S. consular official. The building was evacuated.


The Americans were targeted in an attack in their car, trying to move to a safer venue away from the violent protests that erupted at the U.S. Consulate, Reuters reported. Stevens died of suffocation, while the three other personnel were killed by gunshot wounds, CBS News reports. Their names have not yet been released.


"Meh"...
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Re: U.S. Ambassador to Libya Killed in mob attack at Consula

Postby columbia on Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:03 am

wtf?
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Re: U.S. Ambassador to Libya Killed in mob attack at Consula

Postby Troy Loney on Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:09 am

Has this been confirmed by a source other than the Libyan official?

As long as Israel exists there is going to be rampant anti-americanism in the middle east, and as long as these countries are poor, they will remain militant.
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Re: U.S. Ambassador to Libya Killed in mob attack at Consula

Postby shafnutz05 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:10 am

Troy Loney wrote:Has this been confirmed by a source other than the Libyan official?

As long as Israel exists there is going to be rampant anti-americanism in the middle east, and as long as these countries are poor, they will remain militant.


It has been condemned by the president and others, so I am assuming it's pretty much a done deal at this point.

Re: Israel, I think this has less to do with Israel and more to do with just the ripe environment for religious extremism in these countries (Libya, Egypt, etc). Israel certainly doesn't make them love us, but that doesn't appear to be a primary cause of this current conflagration.
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Re: U.S. Ambassador to Libya Killed in mob attack at Consula

Postby JeffDFD on Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:13 am

Is a US Embassy not American soil? I understand shooting into a crowd will not help any situation, nor is it a good idea...but are the guards supposed to just sit there and do nothing? I don't understand the rules of engagement in these instances.
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Re: U.S. Ambassador to Libya Killed in mob attack at Consula

Postby shafnutz05 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:18 am

JeffDFD wrote:Is a US Embassy not American soil? I understand shooting into a crowd will not help any situation, nor is it a good idea...but are the guards supposed to just sit there and do nothing? I don't understand the rules of engagement in these instances.


It depends. Sometimes a consulate shares the same soil as the embassy itself, sometimes they are located at different spots. There can be multiple consuls, but only one ambassador. It seems to me that this had to have been a targeted attack that used the angry mob as a distraction, but who knows.
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Re: U.S. Ambassador to Libya Killed in mob attack at Consula

Postby Troy Loney on Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:19 am

shafnutz05 wrote:
Troy Loney wrote:Has this been confirmed by a source other than the Libyan official?

As long as Israel exists there is going to be rampant anti-americanism in the middle east, and as long as these countries are poor, they will remain militant.


It has been condemned by the president and others, so I am assuming it's pretty much a done deal at this point.

Re: Israel, I think this has less to do with Israel and more to do with just the ripe environment for religious extremism in these countries (Libya, Egypt, etc). Israel certainly doesn't make them love us, but that doesn't appear to be a primary cause of this current conflagration.


I'm making a blanket statement about middle eastern opinion of the US. I'd say this is a function of their opinion of this country, from what I understand this was triggered by some youtube video that insulted the prophet. I'm inclined to believe that the video wouldn't independently spark these attacks...it's more the preexistent hate, and that hate has a lot to do with US - Isreal relations.
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Re: U.S. Ambassador to Libya Killed in mob attack at Consula

Postby shafnutz05 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:23 am

Eh, I think you are overstating our government's support of Israel, IN THIS INSTANCE. There have been other violent, widespread reactions to insults of the prophet emanating from other countries (that Dutch cartoonist certainly comes to mind).

When that Danish newspaper publishes those cartoons, per Wikipedia:

Four months later, Muslims protested across the Islamic world, some of which escalated into violence with instances of police firing on crowds of protestors resulting in a total of more than 100 reported deaths,[1] including the bombing of the Danish embassy in Pakistan and setting fire to the Danish Embassies in Syria, Lebanon and Iran, storming European buildings, and burning the Danish, Dutch, Norwegian, French and German flags in Gaza City.[2][3] Various groups, primarily in the Western world, responded by endorsing the Danish policies, including "Buy Danish" campaigns and other displays of support. Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen described the controversy as Denmark's worst international crisis since World War II.[4]


And Denmark is about as benign of a country in terms of foreign policy that you can find. No, this reaction and others has a lot more to do with the rampant religious extremism in that region than any other factor.
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Re: U.S. Ambassador to Libya Killed in mob attack at Consula

Postby llipgh2 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:46 am

So this all started because of this a-hole.

Who went into hiding. How brave. Insult a religon knowing full well you'll enflame the insane minority who will react, and go hide. Jerkwad scum.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/09/12/filmmaker-sam-bacile-in-hiding-after-anti-muslim-film-sparks-violence-in-which/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fentertainment+%28Internal+-+Entertainment+-+Mixed%29
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Re: U.S. Ambassador to Libya Killed in mob attack at Consula

Postby npv708 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:50 am

llipgh2 wrote:So this all started because of this a-hole.

Who went into hiding. How brave. Insult a religon knowing full well you'll enflame the insane minority who will react, and go hide. Jerkwad scum.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/09/12/filmmaker-sam-bacile-in-hiding-after-anti-muslim-film-sparks-violence-in-which/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fentertainment+%28Internal+-+Entertainment+-+Mixed%29


"We went into this knowing this was probably going to happen," Klein said.


Idiots.
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