PensFanInDC wrote:Maybe he was coming to warn the prison.
He might actually be looking for a place to stay.
Hockeynut! wrote:I think it could have been accomplished in 15 min rather than an entire ep (or 2 or 3). He's such an annoying character and I don't buy him being redeemed. It's like redeeming Bashar Al-Assad, I'm not buying it. And the whole "failed father finds redemption through a surrogate family" subplot is pretty cliched. When he grabbed the little girl, I kept hoping he'd throw her to the zombies to facilitate his own escape. That would have seemed more believable than what they were feeding us last night.
PensFanInDC wrote:FreeCandy44 wrote:PensFanInDC wrote:Maybe he was coming to warn the prison.
He might actually be looking for a place to stay.
Hey Rick. Sorry I shot RPGs at ya. Mind if I crash here?
offsides wrote:Hockeynut! wrote:I think it could have been accomplished in 15 min rather than an entire ep (or 2 or 3). He's such an annoying character and I don't buy him being redeemed. It's like redeeming Bashar Al-Assad, I'm not buying it. And the whole "failed father finds redemption through a surrogate family" subplot is pretty cliched. When he grabbed the little girl, I kept hoping he'd throw her to the zombies to facilitate his own escape. That would have seemed more believable than what they were feeding us last night. :lol:
I agree, disappointing letdown.
Hockeynut! wrote:I've never read the comics. I thought this season was pretty great, until the last episode. It just ground everything to a halt. I don't even mind the return of the Gov, just wish it would have been 1/3 or 1/2 or the episode, not the whole thing.
JeffDFD wrote:People get so angry at this show...haha. I suppose it is a case of people really like the zombie genre and this is all we have or is it something else?
shmenguin wrote:JeffDFD wrote:People get so angry at this show...haha. I suppose it is a case of people really like the zombie genre and this is all we have or is it something else?
i hate wasting a good premise with terrible execution. it's the same reason that dexter is so irritating.
and i've spent the last few weeks praising this season, so i'm not just sitting here waiting to poke holes. this is a stupid move which, i don't think, is coming from an artistic place. AMC saves a lot of money when they eliminate 90% of the regular cast in a given episode. and they have a history of being very, very dodgy with this show's budget. also, the current show runner is sadly left with the last dill hole's baggage. the governor is the prime example. he's a crap character that they need to resurrect simply out of obligation. also, AMC is likely using this as a way to put feelers out there for their spinoff strategy.
i don't think this is part of a natural story telling arc. this is all business. which i don't appreciate.
GaryRissling wrote:Been meaning to get into this show for a while now...Just started S01E01.
JiriSlegr wrote:I've read the comics, but I think the show suffers from an overall lack of strong writing. Some of it is good, some of it is great, but the majority of it is stock shlock there to keep the viewers coming back. Which is sad, because the flashes of greatness are awesome....but only come along once or twice a season.
I enjoy watching the show for what it is: mindless entertainment. It could be more, but I'd say that the Walking Dead is a show cursed with extremely good ratings. Which is insane, right?! Ratings are good and mean money! Except that it's money, and that opens the door for producers poking their fingers in places where they don't belong.
Producer: Hey guy that directed the number one movie on the IMDB top 250 list, I know you created a show that's making us lots of money and has insane viewership, but how about...you make us more money. As in, less zombies (who wants to pay extras?). As in, interior shots and green screens. And outdoor shots on vacant lots that we own (forcing characters into one stagnant place for extended periods of time). Who cares if it makes no sense for the story to stay in one place so long? Stretch it out! And you know what else? We want more screen time with the characters that people want to see (you know, the ones that fans scream about at conventions). You don't agree with that, Darabont? You're fired! And we'll bring in someone that will do what we say.
And season 2 happens...
You have a bunch of writers writing stories that someone else thinks are awesome and will make money and suddenly the characters are unlikable (mom's that keep forgetting they have a son while constantly searching for another woman's lost daughter). They all stay in one place, never talking about what should happen next...just sitting in the southern sun...while the insects drone. And doing stupid relationship things because of sex.
All while committing the worst sin in good writing: becoming repetitive. They talk about the same things again and again. They are selfish and create problems that don't exist. And as a result, viewers lose interest.
Wait--what happened? People aren't loving this? They loved the zombies? But that costs money...and well...what do we do?
You kill the characters that you turned to **** to force a redemption story.
Lori's the worst mother ever and changes her mind every other line? Done-zo.
Dale wants to leave the show--oopsie.
We turned Andrea, the most amazing character from the comics, into a complete idiot? Let's have her say she tried and blow her brains out.
Introduce the governor and create a bad guy. Things get exciting again! The guy's a good actor, and the governor is truly evil.
But not really that evil. I mean, he acts evil. And we say he's evil. And make him look evil. Like stare into the distance evil. And he kills characters that the audience doesn't know, so that makes him evil. You know.
But we can't kill him. I mean, ratings. Keep him alive and we can force even more conflict!
At the end of the day TV is about money. These are people trying to make lots and lots of money and the WD crew are doing it extremely well. And I watch it, and I enjoy it, so I can't complain too much. I just wish it was a show that stuck with the vision that we all saw in that first season. Instead, it's more of a week to week show that might be good and might be really really terrible.
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